You want to KNOW that test! Something that gave me huge returns was hammering practice tests, sometimes two a week. don't worry about your scores as you just want to get reps in. I would take a test, then review my missed answers the next day and return to content I felt I needed to brush up on from it. I am a bad test taker generally so this really helped get a feel for what kinda stuff the questions are looking for. I used something I a company where I got 10 tests(I think altius) for cheap and each had review videos for each question which was clutch.
Hard to say. MCAT would be safer for more DO schools on average. quality of your ECs will also matter - having some meaningful experiences where you can talk about how they impacted you as a person would be super helpful. Solid GPA, well done!
I am 24 and pretty happy. A lot of my friends are pretty happy as well. I think it goes back to the mind, body, and spirit thing. It takes discipline but we all try to stay pretty balanced by living active lifestyles, exercising and eating well, working hard for things we are passionate about, and maintaining some sort of spirituality in our lives(most of us are Christian). I think society wrongly places emphasis on things involved with immediate pleasure like going out all the time/transient relationships/being hooked by our devices/media and it can be hard to abstain from those things but it just seems to me like society is normalizing and almost glorifying the wrong things.
A good chunk of students at my school are at least 27. Age is completely fine and you will have plenty of years to practice. You really want to make sure you want it though, dropping out will be a massive hit... paying off loans without physician salary does not sound fun. Itll be a lot of time and money but if you make sure this is really what you want then go for it and chug through, don't let fear hold you back!
If this is really what you want dont give up. You really think your school is just going to neglect 20 percent of the student body? yall will get there as long as you stick at it and keep up the grind of trying to figure out what works for you. Just keep at it and figure out where you can be more efficient with your studying and try to really focus on how you can best soak up the content and really understand what is going on. I have been in a not so different situation and things are getting better for me, I feel it coming for you! You got this!
Something else that may help the lectures stick better is if instead you break up your time so that you watch a lecture and then immediately do the anki/review questions/study that content directly afterward and then do the next one. Maybe give it a shot? I feel like it at least helps me but everyones got their own thing
For the most part your more recent tests are decent predictors but I was a little bit of an outlier I think. The first time I took it, I was around 508-510 leading up to test and got a 501 on the actual. retook it and was getting 509-511 range on practices and got a 512 on the real thing
As someone who grew up with <30k family income I appreciate you saying $250k is rich. I am so tired of all these rich ppl in medicine calling themselves “middle class”…
I understand the sentiment but try living a life with gratitude when you’re homeless. They did a study that showed happiness correlated to income up to a certain point, basically to where you can meet your basic needs (food, clothing, shelter) and not everyone has that.
I think that with step 1 being p/f resulting in more value being placed on the med school you went to, you’d still see plenty of benefit from going to MD as family med. Better odds of a desirable residency. N if u wanna do a more competitive specialty, you may wish u went MD. Psych is getting more competitive.
It is crazy how much more this sub makes a deal out of MD vs DO than in real life. It made me really hesitant about my decision at first. Being on this side of things and talking to residents and physicians no one really cares whether you're an MD or DO tbh. For the vast majority of circumstances it doesn't really matter. You can say what you want about step 1 but no one really knows.
I assumed that's what you meant haha. I used to be super focused on the data as well but then I realized how many confounds there are with that. The thing about DO schools is there is a huge array of quality when it comes to how established they are(connections, research, curriculum, etc.) and you can tell that by looking at their matches. OP would most likely be able to go to a well established DO if that is the decision. While on average you're going to have worse matching rates across DO schools, some of them are going to still have really solid opportunities. If you're not wanting to go super prestigious like Ivy's and really lead the field in research or something it doesn't seem to matter as much as I once thought. That's why It comes down to goals - I want a career focused on patient care and don't care as much about prestige so even though I'm interested in some competitive specialties I feel well equipped to pursue my goals. From the alumna and folks who have had experience as residency directors they seem to not really care as much about MD vs DO and more so on the individual applicant and this shows through the school specific match lists.
Its just noise. A lot of premeds are neurotic and you cant let it get to you. Just work hard and do things that are meaningful to you, not necessarily because such and such is doing it or to check something off a list. At the end of the day you will need to write and talk about your story in pursuit of medicine and if it is all building off your passions, it will be much easier to allow your character to shine. Focus on building connections with genuine people whether they happen to be premed or not, your sanity will thank you later.
Running, sprints, push-ups, pulls ups, pistol squats, maybe my adjustable dumbbells if I bring them. That’ll keep anyone but a semi pro body building at maintanence
Just wanna suggest to everyone to play the Dark Souls games, then Bloodborne, then Sekiro then Elden ring. You won’t regret it. The best games ever made
I’m aware nothing is guaranteed but with above a 510 if you can produce a strong enough application in all aspects you should be able to matriculate into medical school. Obviously there’s exceptions to the rule. There’s many outliers with low and high stats who unable to receive an MD and DO acceptance.
*should* the A rate for those stats is like 60-70 percent I think? the vast majority of applicants in that range will have also worked hard to make sure their app is well rounded yet a significant portion of them still get rejected. They should def be applying to at least a couple DO programs.
I sentence you to a weekend of touching grass
I can hear the colored dye in your hair
What’s wrong with having dyed hair?
When did I say there was something wrong with dyed hair?
You want to KNOW that test! Something that gave me huge returns was hammering practice tests, sometimes two a week. don't worry about your scores as you just want to get reps in. I would take a test, then review my missed answers the next day and return to content I felt I needed to brush up on from it. I am a bad test taker generally so this really helped get a feel for what kinda stuff the questions are looking for. I used something I a company where I got 10 tests(I think altius) for cheap and each had review videos for each question which was clutch.
Hard to say. MCAT would be safer for more DO schools on average. quality of your ECs will also matter - having some meaningful experiences where you can talk about how they impacted you as a person would be super helpful. Solid GPA, well done!
ultra white, middle class, parents got me a super old camry for my first car when I asked for a mercedes g wagon
I am 24 and pretty happy. A lot of my friends are pretty happy as well. I think it goes back to the mind, body, and spirit thing. It takes discipline but we all try to stay pretty balanced by living active lifestyles, exercising and eating well, working hard for things we are passionate about, and maintaining some sort of spirituality in our lives(most of us are Christian). I think society wrongly places emphasis on things involved with immediate pleasure like going out all the time/transient relationships/being hooked by our devices/media and it can be hard to abstain from those things but it just seems to me like society is normalizing and almost glorifying the wrong things.
A good chunk of students at my school are at least 27. Age is completely fine and you will have plenty of years to practice. You really want to make sure you want it though, dropping out will be a massive hit... paying off loans without physician salary does not sound fun. Itll be a lot of time and money but if you make sure this is really what you want then go for it and chug through, don't let fear hold you back!
If this is really what you want dont give up. You really think your school is just going to neglect 20 percent of the student body? yall will get there as long as you stick at it and keep up the grind of trying to figure out what works for you. Just keep at it and figure out where you can be more efficient with your studying and try to really focus on how you can best soak up the content and really understand what is going on. I have been in a not so different situation and things are getting better for me, I feel it coming for you! You got this!
Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't realize that
Something else that may help the lectures stick better is if instead you break up your time so that you watch a lecture and then immediately do the anki/review questions/study that content directly afterward and then do the next one. Maybe give it a shot? I feel like it at least helps me but everyones got their own thing
For the most part your more recent tests are decent predictors but I was a little bit of an outlier I think. The first time I took it, I was around 508-510 leading up to test and got a 501 on the actual. retook it and was getting 509-511 range on practices and got a 512 on the real thing
This really isn't satire? 😳
As someone who grew up with <30k family income I appreciate you saying $250k is rich. I am so tired of all these rich ppl in medicine calling themselves “middle class”…
Its all relative, brah. The true rich are those living a life with gratitude :)
I understand the sentiment but try living a life with gratitude when you’re homeless. They did a study that showed happiness correlated to income up to a certain point, basically to where you can meet your basic needs (food, clothing, shelter) and not everyone has that.
Study link?
I think that with step 1 being p/f resulting in more value being placed on the med school you went to, you’d still see plenty of benefit from going to MD as family med. Better odds of a desirable residency. N if u wanna do a more competitive specialty, you may wish u went MD. Psych is getting more competitive.
It is crazy how much more this sub makes a deal out of MD vs DO than in real life. It made me really hesitant about my decision at first. Being on this side of things and talking to residents and physicians no one really cares whether you're an MD or DO tbh. For the vast majority of circumstances it doesn't really matter. You can say what you want about step 1 but no one really knows.
I meant to say especially with step 1 going p/f. That error kinda wrecked what I was saying; anyway, yes, we will have to see what happens.
I assumed that's what you meant haha. I used to be super focused on the data as well but then I realized how many confounds there are with that. The thing about DO schools is there is a huge array of quality when it comes to how established they are(connections, research, curriculum, etc.) and you can tell that by looking at their matches. OP would most likely be able to go to a well established DO if that is the decision. While on average you're going to have worse matching rates across DO schools, some of them are going to still have really solid opportunities. If you're not wanting to go super prestigious like Ivy's and really lead the field in research or something it doesn't seem to matter as much as I once thought. That's why It comes down to goals - I want a career focused on patient care and don't care as much about prestige so even though I'm interested in some competitive specialties I feel well equipped to pursue my goals. From the alumna and folks who have had experience as residency directors they seem to not really care as much about MD vs DO and more so on the individual applicant and this shows through the school specific match lists.
Its just noise. A lot of premeds are neurotic and you cant let it get to you. Just work hard and do things that are meaningful to you, not necessarily because such and such is doing it or to check something off a list. At the end of the day you will need to write and talk about your story in pursuit of medicine and if it is all building off your passions, it will be much easier to allow your character to shine. Focus on building connections with genuine people whether they happen to be premed or not, your sanity will thank you later.
Running, sprints, push-ups, pulls ups, pistol squats, maybe my adjustable dumbbells if I bring them. That’ll keep anyone but a semi pro body building at maintanence
Pistol squats💀 this is the way.
Had a ton of help from this subreddit, happy to pay it back/forward now.
I want to reassure you, that was DEF paid forward🙏
cod w the boys and Elden ring:sunglasses:
Yo you wanna carry me through the third boss fight
Feel free to dm me😏
You are a good friend. I hope my peers turn out to be wholesome people like you when I start
Address him as pipsqueak to help establish the proper power dynamic.
I'd upvote but don't want to bring you up to 70
a man of the people
Just wanna suggest to everyone to play the Dark Souls games, then Bloodborne, then Sekiro then Elden ring. You won’t regret it. The best games ever made
Playing through Elden ring as wretch with club and no armor. Figure if I can do it, I can do med school.
I was paying about 255 a month plus utilities were about 75 ish while in undergrad.
Prewrite secondaries and not give a donation to Georgetown
My skin color, gender, and sexuality
Proline bc it messes everything up like me
Considering most MD schools are not Top MDs that’s okay and the 510 applicant would not need to apply DO at all.
Nothing is guranteed. I am 3.8, 512 and only got into DO
I’m aware nothing is guaranteed but with above a 510 if you can produce a strong enough application in all aspects you should be able to matriculate into medical school. Obviously there’s exceptions to the rule. There’s many outliers with low and high stats who unable to receive an MD and DO acceptance.
*should* the A rate for those stats is like 60-70 percent I think? the vast majority of applicants in that range will have also worked hard to make sure their app is well rounded yet a significant portion of them still get rejected. They should def be applying to at least a couple DO programs.