Understood, and I see where you’re coming from. But I’m talking from the specific perspective of much of the US, where roughly 80% of people do drive a car regularly to get to work, shuttle families around, move things, and use it to take vacations. That’s more a need than a want, so for those people (most) I consider it a basic life skill.
I guess it is really dependent on where you are. I spent a short while in the states and was definitely feeling the lack of alternatives to owning a vehicle. Growing up in an Australian capital has shaped my perspective on these matters in a different way than those having lived in a more car centric environment (not to say we are anywhere near perfect in that regard either).
All too true. I grew up in Detroit, Michigan in the States so obviously there’s a huge car culture there. And the city almost purposefully outmoded any public transit. I’m now in Chicago and the public transit here is quite decent. However, it’s still a very car friendly city…most of our family are in surrounding states and we have various activities to get to with little kids…so having a car is still a must for us.
In that regard you could argue there are more than two from a genetic standpoint (chromosomal), but I would say those are natural aberrations and don’t represent a large enough population to warrant highly special consideration from all of society.
In terms of a purely logic based argument I see your point. Obviously there are small parts of the population that represent cases outside the typical two cases.
there is a perverted logic to it, that no wearing safety gear makes you safer, as you are more inclined to be aware of your surrounding and work in a more restrained manner, while wearing harness makes you careless and one day that complacency leads to the possible event of you carelessly not tightening your ropes and falling, because you relied on safety gear to keep you safe instead of head. That's how folks explain it at least after couple of beers.
Based on your wording, it sounds like you’re assuming that I’m saying we should accept true evil or real bigotry. That’s not what I’m saying. Forget about this Nazi example for a minute.
As a former multi decade resident of Detroit, I saw how the auto unions manipulated bargaining such that many union members gamed the system to basically not have to work much, or at all.
I’d vote for Bernie if I didn’t think I was throwing my vote away. Honestly, at this point in my life if the Republicans just put up a decent candidate that didn’t seem insane I would seriously consider voting right.
Because you don't know what racism is, perhaps? Racism is a belief that people can be organized into a hierarchy based on their race and ethnicity. A lot of times with racism you don't see it in what they're saying but what they're not saying. There's only two countries in the world that have their English language state media deemed by country. People who criticize one group but not others for the same thing can be called "racists" by omission.
Yeah, because I don’t jump to conclusions and accuse people or institutions of things without good reason. I actually consider the -intent- behind the actions, instead of blindly labeling others highly negative things.
Schooling is not, nor should it be analogous to market economics. A firms only purpose is to maximize profits which in theory would be mutually beneficial, but that only works if the firm is able to expand/enter new markets (schools are the business and students are the customers). K-12 schools are geographically constrained, and unless private schools are gonna start forcing their communities to have more babies, the only way for a private business to succeed is by cutting costs the most. There is a reason why private prisons, for profit colleges, private firefighter/police, and the many government services privatized in the UK all failed. Schooling, just like utilities and and even bond rating agencies should be treated as natural monopolies. Their supply is quite literally perfectly inelastic so the incentives are all misaligned.
Okay. So how are public schools and teachers supposed to be measured on performance or given higher motivation if they’ve effectively been handed a monopoly to start with, and zero competition?
It’s fast food. A good chicken sandwich from that perspective. Their employees are always super nice. People just like to hate on them because they now politicize every business in the known universe.
Although a good deal of it doesn’t apply today, a lot of it is leftover bad feelings from a legacy of prior decades worth of hot trash software. I’ve worked in IT since 1993, amongst enterprise platforms predominantly (Mainframe, UNIX, Linux). And prior to that as a hobbyist, anything -but- Windows or DOS (e.g. Commodore, Apple, Atari 8/16-bit machines)
Yeah you’re proving my point… pickleball is more accessible and easier for anyone in the general public to pick up. So it is exactly the kind of thing we should prioritize for a public park. If we have to choose between the two shouldn’t our taxes go toward the one that an athletic 22 year old can have just as much fun with as a 60 year old with bad knees?
I’m sorry, but Jesus Christ and George Floyd have very little in common with each other aside from the fact that they were human, the point that you mentioned, and that they were unjustifiably killed. Quite a stretch to connect the two, but if you see them in a similar light somehow (shrug)
Oh agreed. But I’m thinking if he did some type of brush cut or close shaved/bald treatment with a goatee he’d look pretty badass still, old or no. Better than backwoods Appalachia anyways (shrug)
"Isn't it amazing? In the age of information nobody thinks. We expected to banish paper. But we actually banished thought" - Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park, set all the way back in 1989!
I have been working in IT for 30 years, this year. I still enjoy aspects of it immensely, and can’t envision myself doing anything else that I remotely enjoy as much. It’s as close to one of my existing hobbies as I could hope, yet turn into a highly viable and relevant career.
The Detroit Suburbs are a disaster but the Downtown core really is full of amazing restaurants and stuff to do. (Tigers, Lions and the new Little Caesars Arena for the Wings/Pistons). A lot of the DT restoration is due to the Illitch Family. As someone who frequently has a good time in DT detroit I don't like seeing memes making it look like everything is 8 mile lol.
Raised in the Detroit suburbs and had lived there most of my life (I’m now 50). How on earth you call them a ‘disaster’ (especially relative to the city itself, except perhaps for the last 10 years) I will never understand.
No worries. Just wanted it to be known that the Detroit suburbs are quite lovely in different areas. The unfortunate truth is that after the riots in the late 60s, a large portion of the population of Detroit moved out of the city. Hence making the suburbs the focal point for new investment and leaving the city to crumble.
I primarily use public transport rather than riding a bike, but that's besides my point.
Understood, and I see where you’re coming from. But I’m talking from the specific perspective of much of the US, where roughly 80% of people do drive a car regularly to get to work, shuttle families around, move things, and use it to take vacations. That’s more a need than a want, so for those people (most) I consider it a basic life skill.
I guess it is really dependent on where you are. I spent a short while in the states and was definitely feeling the lack of alternatives to owning a vehicle. Growing up in an Australian capital has shaped my perspective on these matters in a different way than those having lived in a more car centric environment (not to say we are anywhere near perfect in that regard either).
All too true. I grew up in Detroit, Michigan in the States so obviously there’s a huge car culture there. And the city almost purposefully outmoded any public transit. I’m now in Chicago and the public transit here is quite decent. However, it’s still a very car friendly city…most of our family are in surrounding states and we have various activities to get to with little kids…so having a car is still a must for us.
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In that regard you could argue there are more than two from a genetic standpoint (chromosomal), but I would say those are natural aberrations and don’t represent a large enough population to warrant highly special consideration from all of society.
In terms of a purely logic based argument I see your point. Obviously there are small parts of the population that represent cases outside the typical two cases.
there is a perverted logic to it, that no wearing safety gear makes you safer, as you are more inclined to be aware of your surrounding and work in a more restrained manner, while wearing harness makes you careless and one day that complacency leads to the possible event of you carelessly not tightening your ropes and falling, because you relied on safety gear to keep you safe instead of head. That's how folks explain it at least after couple of beers.
I’m not sure it’s ‘perverted’ per se. Just because you don’t think that way doesn’t mean it’s entirely, 100% wrong.
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Based on your wording, it sounds like you’re assuming that I’m saying we should accept true evil or real bigotry. That’s not what I’m saying. Forget about this Nazi example for a minute.
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I don’t think you truly understand where I am coming from. I’m sorry for that, but wish you well
Why are you so many of you anti union?
As a former multi decade resident of Detroit, I saw how the auto unions manipulated bargaining such that many union members gamed the system to basically not have to work much, or at all.
I’d vote for Bernie if I didn’t think I was throwing my vote away. Honestly, at this point in my life if the Republicans just put up a decent candidate that didn’t seem insane I would seriously consider voting right.
To be honest, I don’t know how that would be any better than the other two. None of them are fit for the office.
Because you don't know what racism is, perhaps? Racism is a belief that people can be organized into a hierarchy based on their race and ethnicity. A lot of times with racism you don't see it in what they're saying but what they're not saying. There's only two countries in the world that have their English language state media deemed by country. People who criticize one group but not others for the same thing can be called "racists" by omission.
A specific country does not equate to a specific race, per se. And therefore, labeling something by country name is not itself racist.
Yep, you don't know what racism is. Not even willing to consider Sinophobia and Russophobia.
Yeah, because I don’t jump to conclusions and accuse people or institutions of things without good reason. I actually consider the -intent- behind the actions, instead of blindly labeling others highly negative things.
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Honest question - Is that a good thing?
Schooling is not, nor should it be analogous to market economics. A firms only purpose is to maximize profits which in theory would be mutually beneficial, but that only works if the firm is able to expand/enter new markets (schools are the business and students are the customers). K-12 schools are geographically constrained, and unless private schools are gonna start forcing their communities to have more babies, the only way for a private business to succeed is by cutting costs the most. There is a reason why private prisons, for profit colleges, private firefighter/police, and the many government services privatized in the UK all failed. Schooling, just like utilities and and even bond rating agencies should be treated as natural monopolies. Their supply is quite literally perfectly inelastic so the incentives are all misaligned.
Okay. So how are public schools and teachers supposed to be measured on performance or given higher motivation if they’ve effectively been handed a monopoly to start with, and zero competition?
Chicago's done for. It's like the straw that broke the camels back.
We’ll see what happens, but I have zero expectations. I recall how stoked many were about Lightfoot and we see how well that turned out…..
Chick file a, we have a ton more opening and they are bigoted losers. Chickens not worth it. There are better options in the city that are local.
It’s fast food. A good chicken sandwich from that perspective. Their employees are always super nice. People just like to hate on them because they now politicize every business in the known universe.
It's only bigotry and violence okay just say you hate queer people then instead of such a long comment.
Like I said, civil discourse.
Also, not great looking either. Just kind of meh.
Sorry to those that like it, but honestly…pretty boring.
A standing desk is your answer.
Although a good deal of it doesn’t apply today, a lot of it is leftover bad feelings from a legacy of prior decades worth of hot trash software. I’ve worked in IT since 1993, amongst enterprise platforms predominantly (Mainframe, UNIX, Linux). And prior to that as a hobbyist, anything -but- Windows or DOS (e.g. Commodore, Apple, Atari 8/16-bit machines)
Why be on team tennis in this fight? Less people can play
Pickleball is a ‘sport’ made for people that weren’t skilled or athletic enough to play tennis. As such, it’s more a hobby than an actual sport IMO.
Yeah you’re proving my point… pickleball is more accessible and easier for anyone in the general public to pick up. So it is exactly the kind of thing we should prioritize for a public park. If we have to choose between the two shouldn’t our taxes go toward the one that an athletic 22 year old can have just as much fun with as a 60 year old with bad knees?
But it shouldn’t be one or the other. Both should be able to co-exist. Though, Pickleball sucks, so there’s that too.
Jesus did some stupid shit and ended up getting killed by authorities... Just like George Floyd.
I’m sorry, but Jesus Christ and George Floyd have very little in common with each other aside from the fact that they were human, the point that you mentioned, and that they were unjustifiably killed. Quite a stretch to connect the two, but if you see them in a similar light somehow (shrug)
Unsure. But I’m thinking about how much better he looked cleaned up from a hair perspective vs the crazed hillbilly look.
Age has it’s way. If he trimmed all that hair back to the way he had in the early 2000’s, he would not look the same.
Oh agreed. But I’m thinking if he did some type of brush cut or close shaved/bald treatment with a goatee he’d look pretty badass still, old or no. Better than backwoods Appalachia anyways (shrug)
How old does one have to be in order to be a member of this ‘old f*** club’?
"Isn't it amazing? In the age of information nobody thinks. We expected to banish paper. But we actually banished thought" - Ian Malcolm in Jurassic Park, set all the way back in 1989!
https://web.archive.org/web/20190808123852/http://larvatus.com/michael-crichton-why-speculate/
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Would Ricky Jay have fallen into that category? (assuming he was still alive…he passed in 2018)
I have been working in IT for 30 years, this year. I still enjoy aspects of it immensely, and can’t envision myself doing anything else that I remotely enjoy as much. It’s as close to one of my existing hobbies as I could hope, yet turn into a highly viable and relevant career.
The Detroit Suburbs are a disaster but the Downtown core really is full of amazing restaurants and stuff to do. (Tigers, Lions and the new Little Caesars Arena for the Wings/Pistons). A lot of the DT restoration is due to the Illitch Family. As someone who frequently has a good time in DT detroit I don't like seeing memes making it look like everything is 8 mile lol.
Raised in the Detroit suburbs and had lived there most of my life (I’m now 50). How on earth you call them a ‘disaster’ (especially relative to the city itself, except perhaps for the last 10 years) I will never understand.
I didn't know that. I've only ever been to the DT. Nice to know that not all of the Suburbs are bad. Sorry for the assumption
No worries. Just wanted it to be known that the Detroit suburbs are quite lovely in different areas. The unfortunate truth is that after the riots in the late 60s, a large portion of the population of Detroit moved out of the city. Hence making the suburbs the focal point for new investment and leaving the city to crumble.
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