As OP prpbably knows, The Heritage Guitar company was formed from former Gibson workers, at the former Gibson factory. So Heritage often makes some very close models to Gibson models. Their H 525 is analogous to the ES-225, but you'll have to dig-up a retro bridge tailpiece:
Thereabouts, yes. Some estimates are, for a 100w amp, you need box that handles 150-200. There are a number of companies that make attenuators for high-wattage heads. You could try the Fryette Power Station (they have 2 models). You could also try the Ox, or a Suhr Reactive load. High-power attenuators are not cheap, but necessary for big vintage heads. Otherwise, you’ll risk damaging your amp. If you’re dropping big money on the amp, spend a lil’ extra on some good protection. Don’t skimp out
Wow man thank you for that I will definitely take a deeper look, I wasn’t aware older amps needed better more expensive attenuators so this is gonna be some homework for me but thanks again for giving me some names to look up and compare with each other I appreciate that
Happy to help. I have an old 50’s Fender, and I was fortunate to have a tech that passed on a lot of really good quality and longevity tips for old stuff.
Often said by people with incredibly expensive rigs in order to lightly gas light people who are broke but play incredibly well and are still disappointed with their sound into thinking they need to practice more and that their shit sound is their fault.
No one is talking about Fender, we're talking about Mesa. Modern Fender's have loads of bullshit, unnecessary issues to simply because of cost cutting measures though. Doesn't mean Mesa is exempt from this.
Honestly liked Crate's turn of the century stuff more, although modern day sims and modelers are excellent options for those who can't wind out a tube amp.
Dunno how much disposable income you have, but if you like the look of them and are good @ tuning, they could just be a fun little kit to play. They look kind of cool
Epiphone has, in recent years, kicked the absolute shit out of Gibson in terms of quality to price. I’ve owned 50’s and 60’s Gibson electrics, and played new Gibsons and epiphones, the epiphones are consistently more bang for buck. Slap some aftermarket pick-ups in them and you have pro-class tone for under 1K. My main guitar for practically everything, was an old Korean epiphone SG (the first tier that had a real red cherry looking top). It was like 250-300$, I put an Angus Young and a 57’ classic in it, absolutely roars for rock. If you’re gonna buy high end, get it from a private builder. Pricing is similar, and you typically get to work with the dude actually building your guitar.
His live rig is old Ampeg SVT’s run pretty hot, perhaps try an Ampeg like bass sound and go from there. There is an Ampeg sansamp unit i believe, and something from Tech21 too!
Hey OP did you snag that thing? Awesome little amp. Be advised mine was burning el84s with 370v on the plates at stock configuration. It sounded amazing, but made it EXTREMELY loud and difficult to control. Best OD tone I've heard from any little combo.
If you can find one…Blackstar did a VERY underrated Plexi clone called the Artisan 100. Used to own one and they were GODLIKE for that stuff. I seriously regret letting it go, but it was for a good cause. If you’re patient, you can find one for 800-1200.
The wood looks fantastic given the age. Given the low-hat setup and the look, they have to be from the 20s or 30s. Really a fascinating piece of history.
After some searching, I think the bass drum is an obscure Belgian brand called "Swing." It's tough to make a definitive match on T-rods in the common faucet head style without closeup photos. But
Thanks, man, I read your other comment as well. I’d like to have someone see how structurally sound the bass drum is. Re: the value of the low-boy. Fwiw, I really don’t want to piece the kit out, if I’m going to get rid of it, I wanna make sure it all stays together and is at least a bit playable. If not, I guess I’ll find a museum or find a professional restorer, make them usable. I’m rambling. Just wanted to say thank you for your research and time.
That's a rad kit. Like the other person said they're definitely pre-war and I'd suspect that they're late teens early 20s just by looking at them. Not worth a terrible amount of money but definitely worth some money!
If you gig with it, elevate it on a chair, stand, anything to give it verticality. Everyone will hear it better at ear level.
As OP prpbably knows, The Heritage Guitar company was formed from former Gibson workers, at the former Gibson factory. So Heritage often makes some very close models to Gibson models. Their H 525 is analogous to the ES-225, but you'll have to dig-up a retro bridge tailpiece:
I had actually forgot about Heritage, thank you kindly
I’m sure he’ll be fine
So I would need an attenuator rated for 200watts? I have no idea about attenuators I’ve never used them So any help is greatly appreciated
Thereabouts, yes. Some estimates are, for a 100w amp, you need box that handles 150-200. There are a number of companies that make attenuators for high-wattage heads. You could try the Fryette Power Station (they have 2 models). You could also try the Ox, or a Suhr Reactive load. High-power attenuators are not cheap, but necessary for big vintage heads. Otherwise, you’ll risk damaging your amp. If you’re dropping big money on the amp, spend a lil’ extra on some good protection. Don’t skimp out
Wow man thank you for that I will definitely take a deeper look, I wasn’t aware older amps needed better more expensive attenuators so this is gonna be some homework for me but thanks again for giving me some names to look up and compare with each other I appreciate that
Happy to help. I have an old 50’s Fender, and I was fortunate to have a tech that passed on a lot of really good quality and longevity tips for old stuff.
Often said by people with incredibly expensive rigs in order to lightly gas light people who are broke but play incredibly well and are still disappointed with their sound into thinking they need to practice more and that their shit sound is their fault.
What’s the amp?
1975 Traynor YGM-3 w/ some Pat Furlan Marshall mods done to it (usable via push-pull).
These newer Supro’s have issues with substandard parts (resistors, capacitors etc.).
Marshall Origins are not really Marshall apart from the aesthetic unless you’re willing to mod it (Check out the Headway mod).
Late 60’s 200W Marshall Major, very few of them still around today. Joe Perry and Blackmore used them
What band are you recording with?
Here we go again.
No one is talking about Fender, we're talking about Mesa. Modern Fender's have loads of bullshit, unnecessary issues to simply because of cost cutting measures though. Doesn't mean Mesa is exempt from this.
Line 6 Spider 2 user detected.
Honestly liked Crate's turn of the century stuff more, although modern day sims and modelers are excellent options for those who can't wind out a tube amp.
I know this question is probably been asked somewhere else, but what portrait/map mod are you using?
There is no fucking labour shortage, there’s a dignified job shortage
Lovely colour combo, especially that blue
Dunno how much disposable income you have, but if you like the look of them and are good @ tuning, they could just be a fun little kit to play. They look kind of cool
Epiphone has, in recent years, kicked the absolute shit out of Gibson in terms of quality to price. I’ve owned 50’s and 60’s Gibson electrics, and played new Gibsons and epiphones, the epiphones are consistently more bang for buck. Slap some aftermarket pick-ups in them and you have pro-class tone for under 1K. My main guitar for practically everything, was an old Korean epiphone SG (the first tier that had a real red cherry looking top). It was like 250-300$, I put an Angus Young and a 57’ classic in it, absolutely roars for rock. If you’re gonna buy high end, get it from a private builder. Pricing is similar, and you typically get to work with the dude actually building your guitar.
I'm struggling with the tone on EE. I have a Geddy Lee Sansamp and I just put the drive on high to get close to his tone
His live rig is old Ampeg SVT’s run pretty hot, perhaps try an Ampeg like bass sound and go from there. There is an Ampeg sansamp unit i believe, and something from Tech21 too!
Hey OP did you snag that thing? Awesome little amp. Be advised mine was burning el84s with 370v on the plates at stock configuration. It sounded amazing, but made it EXTREMELY loud and difficult to control. Best OD tone I've heard from any little combo.
Looking to go back and check it out. Did you alter anything to stop it from burning through tubes?
One is a combo, the other a head?
See this is why unusually refrain from posting in the wee hours, I end up asking stupid questions. Thank you, you’re definitely right
If you can find one…Blackstar did a VERY underrated Plexi clone called the Artisan 100. Used to own one and they were GODLIKE for that stuff. I seriously regret letting it go, but it was for a good cause. If you’re patient, you can find one for 800-1200.
The wood looks fantastic given the age. Given the low-hat setup and the look, they have to be from the 20s or 30s. Really a fascinating piece of history.
It’s a rather peculiar conversation piece, a piece that loves to put lead paint chips all over my floor.
After some searching, I think the bass drum is an obscure Belgian brand called "Swing." It's tough to make a definitive match on T-rods in the common faucet head style without closeup photos. But
Thanks, man, I read your other comment as well. I’d like to have someone see how structurally sound the bass drum is. Re: the value of the low-boy. Fwiw, I really don’t want to piece the kit out, if I’m going to get rid of it, I wanna make sure it all stays together and is at least a bit playable. If not, I guess I’ll find a museum or find a professional restorer, make them usable. I’m rambling. Just wanted to say thank you for your research and time.
That's a rad kit. Like the other person said they're definitely pre-war and I'd suspect that they're late teens early 20s just by looking at them. Not worth a terrible amount of money but definitely worth some money!
Dry is one word you could use. I think the Sahara has more moisture than the reso. Really great when it flakes too, I love me some lead paint chips.
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Thanks, man, I’ll give them a shot and see what happens