Most of the comments Iâve seen fall along the lines of âthis doesnât feel rightâ of âthis isnât how I remember itâ which is not how historical/scientific research works lol. Basing the dollsâ fashion off catalogsâ and celebrities have been their method for decades.
i really wish they had a bunk bed but i suspect theyâre marketing this as a âgirly twinâ vs âsporty twinâ thing rather than a bundled best friends thing. the bedding itself is cute if simplistic.
Not everything has leaked yet so Iâm reserving my full thoughts but I just want to volunteer that weâre living in a time of intense antisemitism and it really bothers me people are dismissing new Jewish twins as âwhite, blonde dolls.â (I am Asian FWIW)
As far as I know anything regarding Rebecca being sidelined is 100% speculation. She still has a pretty full collection up on the website and rumors about dolls being cubed/retired circulate every few months on forums so unless I see proof Iâm not believing it. I also feel like most of the Rebecca vs the twins discourse is coming from adult collectors which makes me feel gross.
yes, but her collection is so much more accurate timeline wise. The carebears, the bed (straight out of 80s sitcoms), the clothes, the fitness clothes. I was only 4 in 1986 but to me her collection screams the mid-late 80s.
I would personally argue Courtneyâs clothing is not completely accurate, though itâs very well-done and adorable. You can find reference pictures in catalogs and ads for individual pieces and even color schemes, but mostly for adults. There were also a lot more pastels and browns than people remember.
After listening to his recent podcast episode I was sure he was going to put Anti-Hero pretty high on the list, but after doing my annual Todd lists rewatch I was almost certain it was going to be number one. It just hits so many of the areas that gets songs on the best list and it avoids a lot of the things he specifically didn't like about Blank Space.
Princess Diana never owned this necklace. It was leant to her by the jewelry store that owned it to wear to a charity event. It was up for auction. I don't get the outrage here....
The vast majority of Dianaâs jewelry belongs to either the British Royal Family or the Spencers. Most of it wasnât technically Dianaâs while she was alive, it was âon loanâ or âgifted,â as is the case with most members of the royal family. Anything owned by the RF will never touch Kim and I doubt the Spencers would give her the time of day either. This is the closest sheâll probably ever get.
To add, since itâs not worth its own post, I just received my refund in my bank account from my cancelled flight. Supposed to be 12/27, all I did was fill out the online form on 12/28. Never DMâd on Twitter, called, or emailed. I planned on it eventually, but since I didnât need any extra travel reimbursed I was waiting til the lines cleared up. It was a fairly low amount (~$250), which is maybe why they didnât need any nudging. Still happy it went through!
Agreed on Josefina being the best face mold (I love how versatile it is and how it looks good with pretty much any combination of skintone and hair/eye colors) and that the painted eyelashes look good on certain dolls (I love them on my Evette because they really make her eyes pop).
Hard agree with the last one. I always think about being a little girl during the âbroniesâ era of MLP and never feeling like it was meant for me bc it pandered so hard to adult fans â even though I was like, 11. I never want AG to move away from being for kids.
Thatâs great that you had such a good experience! I also just worked up the courage to go recently, and it was pretty greatâŚexcept for the checking out part bc I think the woman typed in my email wrong and couldnât find my account, and I was too scared to ask her to try again lol
if you ever check out in person and need to apply a purchase to rewards, you can do it online if you sign in! you just need your receipt and you input your purchase date, store location, transaction number, and $$ spent.
I know Courtney isnât loved by all but discovering her at 31 was so exciting! I loved AG as a child and had no idea this existed. I was walking around water tower place and spotted âCourtneyâs closetâ at the AG Chicago store and made a beeline for it. I couldnât believe my eyes. Iâm not an 80âs girly but a lot of the pop culture and fashion did crossover into the early 90âs so it feels very relevant to my childhood. Iâm also blonde with blue eyes so this was hilarious to me. I definitely had plenty of scrunchies and wild printed clothing đ
I honestly canât think of a lazier publicity stunt than âyou will probably spend exactly the same amount on our products this year as last year!â Itâs not a guarantee and itâs not a price drop yet thereâs a mention of ânegotiating lower costs from suppliers and cutting our ad budgetâ (implying theyâre trying to increase their profits?). Itâs lazy pandering IMO and this sub is falling for it.
All corporations exist solely to pull a profit and to expand. Thatâs it. Thatâs capitalism. But theyâre saying they wonât try to increase their profits by passing the bill on to consumers. I donât see the problem.
My problem is that theyâre using this as publicity to make themselves look good and people are falling for it. Their wording is so specific: âWeâre not *planningâ to raise prices in 2023.â They still could.
Oh, okay. Idk why people make problems out of shit like that, like "boohoo, my rights are being infringed because people are gaining representation" lmao. Anyway, is Kira's aunt trans? And what's in Courtney's books? (I haven't read AG books in years)
Kiraâs aunt marries a woman in her second (?) book and Courtneyâs books loosely mention the AIDs epidemic, obviously with not much specifics but mostly focused on the stigma HIV+ children faced. A side character, one of her school friends, has HIV.
I have no idea! I like Courtneyâs books because her story mentions the AIDS crisis. Iâm gonna guess they havenât thought that far and just want to spread PR for this random evangelical doll company.
I love the sparkle theme for the whole collection, very y2k in a way the Netflix show was not, but does the color assignments for the glosses bother anyone else? Why does Layla/Aisha get blue but bloom gets pink?
They put them out of order! IDK who made that mistake but it's honestly a big one. I've seen other promo art that shows that the glosses match the girl's color themes :)
I'm not really clear on how popular the Wellie Wisher sized dolls are, generally? I get the impression a lot of people still go straight to 18" AG dolls.
I think WW do well with with families that canât afford the full-sized dolls. Iâm not sure if Gwynn herself did, her stuff was always separate from the other WW and I think kids maybe canât tell her apart from Emerson, at least the 4 y/oâs the dolls are aimed at.
I feel like we canât make conclusions because thereâs no way they had fiscal data from Corinne in time to plan for Kavi. They probably started producing her and writing her story before Corinne fully launched. That said, Iâve noticed a lot of her promo displays have her with that one TM (122?), I kind of wonder if thatâs something similar.
Itâs unlikely, there was likely a reference used that was arranged by AG. The old-school historical illustrations were done that way, I think the wiki has more info on Kitâs page. Painting directly over an entire photograph doesnât usually lead to the best results and itâs also a bit iffy ethically in the art community (sometimes legally).
regarding space, i do think it is a valid concern and iâd maybe look into collecting outfits/accessories over dolls if youâre hurting? outfits are honestly just as difficult (often harder) to collect as dolls and IMO can be more rewarding. if you do get her, courtney is really fun for this because her collection is so huge and anything mini 80s branded works as accessories for her. you can always switch out which outfits/accessories your dolls are displayed with.
I grew up with the second gen historical illustrations and have the most nostalgia for them. Kitâs and Mollyâs are very special to me, the PC illustrations are the most special part of that era to me. admittedly Cecile & MGâs covers are⌠unsettling.
thereâs a more recent one of olivia rodrigo with grace at the american girl cafe! and annasophia robb posted a photo of her receiving her samantha doll while filming the movie
Iâve been trying to ID the doll Olivia got papped with at her visit to the AG store! Sheâs in the Paris outfit and she has brown eyes, so sheâs not Grace. Article with pics for reference:
The War of 1812 isn't hard to explain, and I'm not really sure why you think it is? Caroline's not remotely hard to explain to your hypothetical spouse. "She's a pretty doll in a fluffy pink dress." (Also, the hypothetical spouse in this scenario sounds like an asshole, and I want a hypothetical divorce.)
Youâre kind of agreeing with my whole point? That you can create dolls involving historical events without involving the tragedy in their stories? I was using Felicity as a negative example and Addy as a positive example, bc Addy was created with a consulting group in hand.
I really don't think I am? Addy's first book involves being force-fed tobacco worms, and being whipped. That isn't "not involving the tragedy" in her stories. I do agree that American Girl had to address slavery, but I think it's really important not to equate marginalized people's only role in this country with suffering.
I think weâre ultimately making different, not really related points. I was mostly just saying that the issue of writing stories for dolls pre-20th century and marketing them is touchier than making a fun 80s girl and that was my theory for why theyâre not releasing them. I agree itâs possible to walk that line, but I donât think AG is willing to anymore. I love the 1800s girls, I wish there were more, but I think itâs genuinely difficult to walk the line between âtoo muchâ and âsanitized.â I wasnât challenging anything you said about internment camps or the Holocaust, Iâm actually Japanese-American so I agreed with you there.
Most of the comments Iâve seen fall along the lines of âthis doesnât feel rightâ of âthis isnât how I remember itâ which is not how historical/scientific research works lol. Basing the dollsâ fashion off catalogsâ and celebrities have been their method for decades.
Isn't the second pic from Teen Witch, a late 80s movie? đ¤¨
The 80s and 90s had a lot of overlap in style and I suspect that made it really hard to develop the twins. The early 90s were still extremely 80s.
Iâm a big Olivia Rodrigo fan and as soon as I saw the twinsâ collection I thought of Sour so I decided to compile all the similarities I saw.
i really wish they had a bunk bed but i suspect theyâre marketing this as a âgirly twinâ vs âsporty twinâ thing rather than a bundled best friends thing. the bedding itself is cute if simplistic.
Not everything has leaked yet so Iâm reserving my full thoughts but I just want to volunteer that weâre living in a time of intense antisemitism and it really bothers me people are dismissing new Jewish twins as âwhite, blonde dolls.â (I am Asian FWIW)
Hasn't everything but their pajama sets leaked?
As far as I know anything regarding Rebecca being sidelined is 100% speculation. She still has a pretty full collection up on the website and rumors about dolls being cubed/retired circulate every few months on forums so unless I see proof Iâm not believing it. I also feel like most of the Rebecca vs the twins discourse is coming from adult collectors which makes me feel gross.
yes, but her collection is so much more accurate timeline wise. The carebears, the bed (straight out of 80s sitcoms), the clothes, the fitness clothes. I was only 4 in 1986 but to me her collection screams the mid-late 80s.
I would personally argue Courtneyâs clothing is not completely accurate, though itâs very well-done and adorable. You can find reference pictures in catalogs and ads for individual pieces and even color schemes, but mostly for adults. There were also a lot more pastels and browns than people remember.
Miso paste is salty by itself and personally I've never added soy sauce. Still came out fine. Salt it to your preference.
i absolutely add soy sauce to miso soup but i wouldnât add salt on top. especially if i was adding seaweed, which is common.
After listening to his recent podcast episode I was sure he was going to put Anti-Hero pretty high on the list, but after doing my annual Todd lists rewatch I was almost certain it was going to be number one. It just hits so many of the areas that gets songs on the best list and it avoids a lot of the things he specifically didn't like about Blank Space.
i knew if someone was gonna get the sexy baby line itâd be todd.
Alexa, which is not just a pop culture thing but also people who own an Alexa legit probably can't name their kid that anymore
Princess Diana never owned this necklace. It was leant to her by the jewelry store that owned it to wear to a charity event. It was up for auction. I don't get the outrage here....
The vast majority of Dianaâs jewelry belongs to either the British Royal Family or the Spencers. Most of it wasnât technically Dianaâs while she was alive, it was âon loanâ or âgifted,â as is the case with most members of the royal family. Anything owned by the RF will never touch Kim and I doubt the Spencers would give her the time of day either. This is the closest sheâll probably ever get.
I meant why did Disney change it from having Bandit sneeze to him burping in the censored version?
probably because burping is less associated with allergies than sneezing and it matched the animation close enough
To add, since itâs not worth its own post, I just received my refund in my bank account from my cancelled flight. Supposed to be 12/27, all I did was fill out the online form on 12/28. Never DMâd on Twitter, called, or emailed. I planned on it eventually, but since I didnât need any extra travel reimbursed I was waiting til the lines cleared up. It was a fairly low amount (~$250), which is maybe why they didnât need any nudging. Still happy it went through!
Agreed on Josefina being the best face mold (I love how versatile it is and how it looks good with pretty much any combination of skintone and hair/eye colors) and that the painted eyelashes look good on certain dolls (I love them on my Evette because they really make her eyes pop).
Hard agree with the last one. I always think about being a little girl during the âbroniesâ era of MLP and never feeling like it was meant for me bc it pandered so hard to adult fans â even though I was like, 11. I never want AG to move away from being for kids.
Thatâs great that you had such a good experience! I also just worked up the courage to go recently, and it was pretty greatâŚexcept for the checking out part bc I think the woman typed in my email wrong and couldnât find my account, and I was too scared to ask her to try again lol
if you ever check out in person and need to apply a purchase to rewards, you can do it online if you sign in! you just need your receipt and you input your purchase date, store location, transaction number, and $$ spent.
I know Courtney isnât loved by all but discovering her at 31 was so exciting! I loved AG as a child and had no idea this existed. I was walking around water tower place and spotted âCourtneyâs closetâ at the AG Chicago store and made a beeline for it. I couldnât believe my eyes. Iâm not an 80âs girly but a lot of the pop culture and fashion did crossover into the early 90âs so it feels very relevant to my childhood. Iâm also blonde with blue eyes so this was hilarious to me. I definitely had plenty of scrunchies and wild printed clothing đ
Youâre not alone, I want Courtney so badly! I just got her cardigan from the sale and itâs so cute, I love it.
I will say that Iâve liked every product Iâve used from this brand.
I honestly canât think of a lazier publicity stunt than âyou will probably spend exactly the same amount on our products this year as last year!â Itâs not a guarantee and itâs not a price drop yet thereâs a mention of ânegotiating lower costs from suppliers and cutting our ad budgetâ (implying theyâre trying to increase their profits?). Itâs lazy pandering IMO and this sub is falling for it.
All corporations exist solely to pull a profit and to expand. Thatâs it. Thatâs capitalism. But theyâre saying they wonât try to increase their profits by passing the bill on to consumers. I donât see the problem.
My problem is that theyâre using this as publicity to make themselves look good and people are falling for it. Their wording is so specific: âWeâre not *planningâ to raise prices in 2023.â They still could.
Oh, okay. Idk why people make problems out of shit like that, like "boohoo, my rights are being infringed because people are gaining representation" lmao. Anyway, is Kira's aunt trans? And what's in Courtney's books? (I haven't read AG books in years)
Kiraâs aunt marries a woman in her second (?) book and Courtneyâs books loosely mention the AIDs epidemic, obviously with not much specifics but mostly focused on the stigma HIV+ children faced. A side character, one of her school friends, has HIV.
Iâm an epidemiologist, how do they expect AG to cover the 80s without mentioning HIV?
I have no idea! I like Courtneyâs books because her story mentions the AIDS crisis. Iâm gonna guess they havenât thought that far and just want to spread PR for this random evangelical doll company.
I love the sparkle theme for the whole collection, very y2k in a way the Netflix show was not, but does the color assignments for the glosses bother anyone else? Why does Layla/Aisha get blue but bloom gets pink?
They put them out of order! IDK who made that mistake but it's honestly a big one. I've seen other promo art that shows that the glosses match the girl's color themes :)
Whaaa? The lids on the boxes match the colors here though?
I'm not really clear on how popular the Wellie Wisher sized dolls are, generally? I get the impression a lot of people still go straight to 18" AG dolls.
I think WW do well with with families that canât afford the full-sized dolls. Iâm not sure if Gwynn herself did, her stuff was always separate from the other WW and I think kids maybe canât tell her apart from Emerson, at least the 4 y/oâs the dolls are aimed at.
I feel like we canât make conclusions because thereâs no way they had fiscal data from Corinne in time to plan for Kavi. They probably started producing her and writing her story before Corinne fully launched. That said, Iâve noticed a lot of her promo displays have her with that one TM (122?), I kind of wonder if thatâs something similar.
Did they really?
Itâs unlikely, there was likely a reference used that was arranged by AG. The old-school historical illustrations were done that way, I think the wiki has more info on Kitâs page. Painting directly over an entire photograph doesnât usually lead to the best results and itâs also a bit iffy ethically in the art community (sometimes legally).
What kind of issues is United having?
Baggage-related. I donât think having the entire baggage claim floor covered in luggage helps anyone. some subs had photosâŚ
regarding space, i do think it is a valid concern and iâd maybe look into collecting outfits/accessories over dolls if youâre hurting? outfits are honestly just as difficult (often harder) to collect as dolls and IMO can be more rewarding. if you do get her, courtney is really fun for this because her collection is so huge and anything mini 80s branded works as accessories for her. you can always switch out which outfits/accessories your dolls are displayed with.
I grew up with the second gen historical illustrations and have the most nostalgia for them. Kitâs and Mollyâs are very special to me, the PC illustrations are the most special part of that era to me. admittedly Cecile & MGâs covers are⌠unsettling.
thereâs a more recent one of olivia rodrigo with grace at the american girl cafe! and annasophia robb posted a photo of her receiving her samantha doll while filming the movie
Iâve been trying to ID the doll Olivia got papped with at her visit to the AG store! Sheâs in the Paris outfit and she has brown eyes, so sheâs not Grace. Article with pics for reference:
Iâm pretty sure thatâs Maritza
I think youâre right! I always forget Maritza has the painted lashes.
The War of 1812 isn't hard to explain, and I'm not really sure why you think it is? Caroline's not remotely hard to explain to your hypothetical spouse. "She's a pretty doll in a fluffy pink dress." (Also, the hypothetical spouse in this scenario sounds like an asshole, and I want a hypothetical divorce.)
Youâre kind of agreeing with my whole point? That you can create dolls involving historical events without involving the tragedy in their stories? I was using Felicity as a negative example and Addy as a positive example, bc Addy was created with a consulting group in hand.
I really don't think I am? Addy's first book involves being force-fed tobacco worms, and being whipped. That isn't "not involving the tragedy" in her stories. I do agree that American Girl had to address slavery, but I think it's really important not to equate marginalized people's only role in this country with suffering.
I think weâre ultimately making different, not really related points. I was mostly just saying that the issue of writing stories for dolls pre-20th century and marketing them is touchier than making a fun 80s girl and that was my theory for why theyâre not releasing them. I agree itâs possible to walk that line, but I donât think AG is willing to anymore. I love the 1800s girls, I wish there were more, but I think itâs genuinely difficult to walk the line between âtoo muchâ and âsanitized.â I wasnât challenging anything you said about internment camps or the Holocaust, Iâm actually Japanese-American so I agreed with you there.