That has to be one of the most stupid lies. No one has ever met someone who worked for the BBC, without being told within one minute that they work for the BBC.
This is also China we're talking about, with just how much surveillance tech they have it's just not believable they weren't aware of the one foreign reporter crew there. If anything they probably had been tracking the guy since he landed to see what he was up to.
It's stupid but so stupid it could be true. I 100% believe it's possible that someone had the ambition to withhold info so they can see "what they really do to detainees."
Maybe just like some dumb person I encountered in an FB debate, they don't see BBC journalists as journalists. That's how disconnected/brainwashed they are to the rest of the world.
Also, whenever you see reporters in crisis zones they are very eager and quick to announce that they're press, because that can often make the difference between life and death in seconds. No way the BBC reporter would fumble this.
I highly doubt any of those police officers even know what BBC is, it's blocked in China, so chances are, it's just a foreigner screaming random English at them.
BBC does not mean Journalist to Chinese Cops. You have to say Forgein Media or Journalist to the Cops. It is crazy bad training. That is the Chinese programing if you do not utter the Party Buzzword they do not understand.
Apart from his cap which had “BBC” in big letters, his vest which said “Press” and “BBC”, heck even his underwear has “BBC” written in big bold black letters in front.
Your post needs to be upvoted more so it will be seen by more people. It flies in the face of all reason that the police will detain a foreign national without even establishing who he is or providing consular support.
I listened to an interview with a journalist who had been detained in China himself, and said this was a fairly common experience. Especially when they were near protests or near angry people who would give the world a piece of their mind if given a microphone.
It's for the same reason too. It's the look we can tell an obvious lie and what are you going to do about it. "We aren't taking credit and openly saying we will attack foreign journalists but who knows maybe our ears don't work so well when we're around the press."
The CCP regime’s announcement is bullshit itself because all foreign journalists should register their identification & subjects for video recording when they entered China, so that does not make sense. The main reason is China can’t give freedom of speech to Chinese people & people from overseas.
y'all need to remember that being a journalist used to be a highly respected and often dangerous career. It's highly unlikely this reporter went there not knowing the risks
In latest meeting between Xi and Biden, Chinese body guards tried to rough up a female us reporter and us secret service agents stepped in to protect her. Look it up.
Sure it will just fluffed with a good deal of propaganda to make the evil puppeteers look like victims and a few pissed off puppets look crazy, meanwhile no one will give a F$#' because Fox and CNN will put their "unique" perspectives on it and we will all just continue to pull our pud respectively not knowing our butts from our whatchamacallits
Imagine being a reporter under this circumstances and not identifying yourself as a reporter to avoid detention. There is not even logic to this lies. Liers!!!
Totalitarian jerks always think people believe their lies. So many lies to so many people, they don't even see themselves for the corrupt bitches they are.
China has notoriously bad journalism rights, so it is possible that they didn't claim to be journalists, no matter how obvious it would be, because you may as well be saying "please throw me in jail for espionage" which, I mean they're doing that anyways. China is fucked in so many ways.
The minute they get off the plane they are investigated and told either yay or nay and from there they may proceed to enter the Country. As if we don't know China make sure everyone is not a spy before they enter the Country. 🙄
Oh, yes, I'm sure that happened. I've seen first hand dozens of reporters being arrested by police. They NEVER fail to identify themselves. Maaaybe say that he didn't identify himself in Chinese instead? That would be at least somewhat believable.
Please. That's the first thing you do in a foreign country if for no other reason that either it grants you special privileges from the law or you think it grants you special privileges from the law. That's ridiculous to say that the reporter didn't identify themselves as a journalist. That's like saying a traveler being in trouble with the law didn't identify themselves as being a tourist... that's the first thing you do because you think it'll help you.
Raise your hands if you believe that a Journalist was detained at an unprecedented protest on mainland China in a country that covers up any protests, simply because they didn’t identify themselves and not because the government wants to cover up another protest.
Lol, as if the reporter was thinking "I'll just keep that information to myself and see where this crazy ride takes me. What's the worst that could happen?"
Highly highly doubt that, reporters usually wear tags for one, especially in a hostile and malignant place like China, and secondly, the very first thing to come out of their mouths is usually ‘I’m a journalist’ as that gives them clearance or special rights in certain conditions and areas.
I saw him being carried away by the police. He urged not to be taken away. It was obvious he was a reporter not a standby. I saw some Anglo women joined the chanting. They look more like foreigners who had an understanding of the Chinese.
"I said I was a better class of human, yet you still treated me like one of the sub classes" Sorry not the time I know but the journalist class has positioned themselves just below the ruling and owner classes and have as much interest in changing anything as their friends and it is annoying.
Looking forward to the UK government’s mental gymnastics after a reporter was arrested in the UK only a couple of weeks ago for covering an illegal protest.
To have human rights you must be reporter.
"Foreign" reporter. Their local reporters just suddenly disappear.
That has to be one of the most stupid lies. No one has ever met someone who worked for the BBC, without being told within one minute that they work for the BBC.
Ah I see you’ve met Grant
They are like Harvard alumni
They're even super on top of whether it's BBC, BBC2 or BBC4 etc.
Reminds me of a joke with my locals. The nuke plant guys can't help but tell people what they do.
This is also China we're talking about, with just how much surveillance tech they have it's just not believable they weren't aware of the one foreign reporter crew there. If anything they probably had been tracking the guy since he landed to see what he was up to.
Hi I’m Louis I’m from the BBC
It's stupid but so stupid it could be true. I 100% believe it's possible that someone had the ambition to withhold info so they can see "what they really do to detainees."
If he was also vegan which would have to be brought up first?
The onion version of this headline: "China says vegan did not identify himself as vegan"
Oh it works if you start of with:
Maybe just like some dumb person I encountered in an FB debate, they don't see BBC journalists as journalists. That's how disconnected/brainwashed they are to the rest of the world.
(a) You aren't wrong
How can you tell if someone uses Linux? You don’t, they tell you.
Yup, BBC Reporter yelling I’m BBC with a camera crew … China lies as poorly as Russia.
This is definitely in the same genre of headlines as “Putin says…”
Also, whenever you see reporters in crisis zones they are very eager and quick to announce that they're press, because that can often make the difference between life and death in seconds. No way the BBC reporter would fumble this.
Maybe they understood a different kind of BBC
They figured, it’s our word against yours. I swear, I hate immature mentality.
You should see all the tankie subs Sino and GenZedong
I highly doubt any of those police officers even know what BBC is, it's blocked in China, so chances are, it's just a foreigner screaming random English at them.
The policemen had airpods in.
BBC does not mean Journalist to Chinese Cops. You have to say Forgein Media or Journalist to the Cops. It is crazy bad training. That is the Chinese programing if you do not utter the Party Buzzword they do not understand.
We need to remember China is actually very strict when it comes to who is a journalists and "affiliate" bloggers do not count.
They're just trying to discourage other countries from reporting on what's going on.
He did not identify as a journalist? Well, then I guess it's totally okay to beat the s**t out of him.
Last I heard, there are not that many white Chinese citizens. Except for Elon.
Did they do that? They’re obviously lying about him not identifying himself but the article just says he was detained.
They were trying to beat the Covid he caught out of him. It didn't go quietly.
I guess he would rather be beaten and jailed than telling the cops he was a journalist, makes perfect sense.
Apart from his cap which had “BBC” in big letters, his vest which said “Press” and “BBC”, heck even his underwear has “BBC” written in big bold black letters in front.
Had us in the second half not gonna lie
Maybe they got it confused with the other meaning of BBC... big bad china. 🤣
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You kind of made their point.
a vinyl sticker with big block letters adhering to his chest
Mind you, this is version 2 of their story.
Your post needs to be upvoted more so it will be seen by more people. It flies in the face of all reason that the police will detain a foreign national without even establishing who he is or providing consular support.
He was held for several hours. Did it take them this long to find out who he was? I think not so.
it's hard to admit you're wrong when you've wanted to fuck someone up really bad.
I'm thinking they knew who he was, didn't give a shit and were ordered to detain him.
They read his name on his BBC Press Pass. So that explains...
I listened to an interview with a journalist who had been detained in China himself, and said this was a fairly common experience. Especially when they were near protests or near angry people who would give the world a piece of their mind if given a microphone.
"Look at the guy over there with his camera crew saying things in this mic; looks like a normal protester to me. "
"How to lie"
It's for the same reason too. It's the look we can tell an obvious lie and what are you going to do about it. "We aren't taking credit and openly saying we will attack foreign journalists but who knows maybe our ears don't work so well when we're around the press."
"Oh sorry, we meant to only beat our citizens, our apologies."
"China says" is worth about as much as "Russia says" nowadays.
Of course they said that. Their government is as honest as Putin.
Just like the Uighurs are not in concentrations camps
Screw the CCP
They are very bad liars.
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The CCP regime’s announcement is bullshit itself because all foreign journalists should register their identification & subjects for video recording when they entered China, so that does not make sense. The main reason is China can’t give freedom of speech to Chinese people & people from overseas.
The Tweet the BBC put out about it showed how stupid the Chinese police lie was. The BBC reporter was also beaten by the police.
Chinese authorities will
I bet he was fully aware he could be detained, that doesn't mean you don't go there, do the necessary reporting and call it out when it happens.
y'all need to remember that being a journalist used to be a highly respected and often dangerous career. It's highly unlikely this reporter went there not knowing the risks
"He obviously didn't identify as a journalist - if he did we wouldn't have even let him into the country!"
They knew, and of course id bet my house they detained the journalist just to delete the footage.
There are these things called ID Badges.
They probably confiscated it and turn around and say we never saw one.
Following their logic, it's okay to beat foreigners who aren't journalists. Nice.
In latest meeting between Xi and Biden, Chinese body guards tried to rough up a female us reporter and us secret service agents stepped in to protect her. Look it up.
Here's the article if anyone is interested
The article I saw called her a tv producer, but strangely having trouble finding more info.
where can I find it, i tried google but I couldn't find anything.
https://fb.watch/h4wKjYC3IM/
"He didnt identify as a reporter so thats why we thought it was fine to beat the shit out of him"
China, the world's biggest liars, today denied another truth, knowing full well nobody would believe them
I am going to go out on a limb and assume that China is completely full of shit here.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure any journalist arrested for being a journalist would immediately say "I'm a journalist"
Old lying China.
“We would have hit him harder, had we known.”
Xi lies again
Doubt
THE REVOLUTION WILL NOT BE TELEVISED
Sure it will just fluffed with a good deal of propaganda to make the evil puppeteers look like victims and a few pissed off puppets look crazy, meanwhile no one will give a F$#' because Fox and CNN will put their "unique" perspectives on it and we will all just continue to pull our pud respectively not knowing our butts from our whatchamacallits
Sooooo its ok to manhandle and fuck on people who arnt the BBC than, got it.
It's a threat
South park "Sorry" clip comes to mind. Abhorrent behaviour
Imagine being a reporter under this circumstances and not identifying yourself as a reporter to avoid detention. There is not even logic to this lies. Liers!!!
I can actually believe that. Imagine how much worse it likely would have been if they knew he was a journalist.
Sure he didn’t. Sure he didn’t
The BBC microphone and camera crew didn’t provide any fucking clues eh?
I don’t believe a God damned thing the Chinese govt says
Bollocks. This isn't even the first time it's happened! They did it to a dude as he was doing a live piece to camera once!
Were they waiting to see if no one made any noise about it? Too bad they don’t have the reach to just make England shut up about it.
China PR keeps digging that hole. I guess only reporters will be left alone by state security forces
I wonder if the spokesperson here realizes the unspoken implication that this type of treatment is par for the course for its citizens.
Totalitarian jerks always think people believe their lies. So many lies to so many people, they don't even see themselves for the corrupt bitches they are.
Typical third world thuggery.
The customer we detained behind the register did not identify himself as a secret shopper
Heh, convenient oopsie right there, Chin
China has no integrity left. I don't believe a word they say
So if he was not a BBC employee it would have been ok to beat the shit out of him?
I've never met a news reported who hasn't identified themselves.. in fact they get off on it - so definitely not true.
Yeah, No. That'd complete BS CCP
Identifying yourself
I doubt this journalist is going to get an inquiry and an official apology from the Chief Constable, mind.
I was going to say the same thing happens everywhere else, including eu and us.
So, he did identify himself as a reporter. Anything CCP says, the opposite is true.
Yes, because that's believable China.
China has notoriously bad journalism rights, so it is possible that they didn't claim to be journalists, no matter how obvious it would be, because you may as well be saying "please throw me in jail for espionage" which, I mean they're doing that anyways. China is fucked in so many ways.
The takeaway : in China, if you are not a reporter, you can be jailed.
Why does this specific report feel like a distraction? China's borderline revolution right now. Where's the press around it!?
So, they are saying that detaining people is no problem?
As shitty as chinas govt is, they are hardly special in that regard.
Start revoking the credentials of CCP "reporters". It's just like with diplomats - it needs to be quid pro quo or it doesn't work.
China lies.
China is know laing cunt off a gov. Dont believe shit they say. Their propaganda only works on their citizens.
And he shouldn’t have to identify as one!
The reason I don’t believe this for a second is because why wouldn’t you tell them you’re a BBC reporter.
The minute they get off the plane they are investigated and told either yay or nay and from there they may proceed to enter the Country. As if we don't know China make sure everyone is not a spy before they enter the Country. 🙄
They would.
China says, Russia says.. Of course, of course.
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Did they beat them?
Or Ukraine banning certain CNN reporters from showing what's going on at ground level.
Wouldn't surprise me. Westerners really be going to other countries and are shocked when they don't get special treatment.
Oh, yes, I'm sure that happened. I've seen first hand dozens of reporters being arrested by police. They NEVER fail to identify themselves. Maaaybe say that he didn't identify himself in Chinese instead? That would be at least somewhat believable.
Surprise surprise!
Today I feel Chinese.
Bull
Yeah…. Whatever, China police lie.
Please. That's the first thing you do in a foreign country if for no other reason that either it grants you special privileges from the law or you think it grants you special privileges from the law. That's ridiculous to say that the reporter didn't identify themselves as a journalist. That's like saying a traveler being in trouble with the law didn't identify themselves as being a tourist... that's the first thing you do because you think it'll help you.
Maybe they tought BBC means Big Black .. uhm Rooster :P
Next week: No foreign press allowed.
This revolt won’t get far and that’s sad
I wouldn't be so sure about that. I found
Raise your hands if you believe that a Journalist was detained at an unprecedented protest on mainland China in a country that covers up any protests, simply because they didn’t identify themselves and not because the government wants to cover up another protest.
Lol, as if the reporter was thinking "I'll just keep that information to myself and see where this crazy ride takes me. What's the worst that could happen?"
Ah, yes yes yes, 对对对！
As if.
I didn't know China cared.
Highly highly doubt that, reporters usually wear tags for one, especially in a hostile and malignant place like China, and secondly, the very first thing to come out of their mouths is usually ‘I’m a journalist’ as that gives them clearance or special rights in certain conditions and areas.
I saw him being carried away by the police. He urged not to be taken away. It was obvious he was a reporter not a standby. I saw some Anglo women joined the chanting. They look more like foreigners who had an understanding of the Chinese.
I find that very hard to believe.
Why wouldn’t they have lanyards for press like EVERY OTHER COUNTRY. clear as day…
Oh so they went with this excuse.
Hold on, this doesn't justify to any extent that it is reasonable to detain people if they weren't western journalists!
Thank God for the 2nd Amendment
I'll assume you're american so Good luck at aiming a gun at police in case you ever feel you're being wrongly detained lmaoo
The have a second Amendment in China?
Yep, because that'll save you if the US government is ever tyrannical. I've heard AR-15s work great on M1 Abrams tanks, B2 bombers and assault drones.
No one cares. Global politics are futile. Accept the presence of your overlords and defy them whenever possible.
Obviously China doesnt know because BBC means Big B …
Big Black Chinese? 😏
Maybe he was male? Could still be a journalist, china should follow up, even if he identifies as male.
Tf are you talking about. Sounding kinda unhinged dude...
Da fuck is a malee? Typo once maybe but twice?
BBC be wondering,do we continue criticism of Qatar or jump onto china
How about both. Both is good.
"I said I was a better class of human, yet you still treated me like one of the sub classes" Sorry not the time I know but the journalist class has positioned themselves just below the ruling and owner classes and have as much interest in changing anything as their friends and it is annoying.
Meh. People are overblowing this. Many western nations beat the shit out of protestors as well as journalists covering them
What is bbc? Big black chicken?
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BBC has become totally a propagandist news site.
So why didn't the reporter show them his government issued documents? He should know that just dressing up like a reporter isn't enough in China.
Looking forward to the UK government’s mental gymnastics after a reporter was arrested in the UK only a couple of weeks ago for covering an illegal protest.
Everyone is liars. Chinese, British, American, Russian alike. Get real about it or get over it.
Right out of the Putinesque/Trumpian playbook.