You think this is going to last that long? Once a couple of Teslas on Autopilot "accidentally" crash into the Apple HQ and run over Tim Cook, I think the surviving board members will fold.
This is exactly why Epic Games and Apple are currently in court. Fortnite held a promotion where you could get bonus ingame currency for buying from their website. Apple felt this was going around their payment wall and removed Fortnite from the app store.
It's closer to $50 billion on hand an crossed a 3 trillion(1) market cap... Elno is beyond deluded into thinking his massively in debt platform that has fewer users than Pinterest is this all important all seeing all knowing platform that people give that big a shit about. He's like a tiny fly fighting a bored cat that, if the cat wanted to, it could just squish and eat or squish and walk away from.
Yeah this is a really bad idea on his part. Apples revenue stream comes from a ridiculous number of places and there's no possibility their market will dry up.
Didn't Epic Games lose in court when they tried to fight AAPLs 30% cut? Not sure what happened to that but we could use it as a guide into what the courts will decide for elon.
It is currently going through the appeal process. Will take years to get a definitive result. Bunch of companies joined Epic on the appeal. Likely Twitter will too.
The court case was sort of won by Epic, they could have links that go to Epic directly but if you had lets say an Apple Gift Card you would want to keep the purchase in-app so that you can use that to pay.
Good luck. Epic Games and Spotify have been at this for years – and they at least have consumer revenue to speak of. What's he going to leverage? No more tweets on iOS? That's probably already the case on most devices.
It's almost like Elon doesn't want advertising on "new" twitter at all. 30% has been industry standard for years now and it wont be changing anytime soon, people been trying to fight it but time and time again it falls flat on its face as the justification is always "if you don't like it, make your own platform".
As Bas Rutten said, there is a rule in street fighting. You never fuck with someone who holds you in a superior position. You don't start to poke a guy in the eye who holds you in a headlock. He'll just choke you out. Apple can choke out Twitter any time they want.
He got so gassed up about people blowing him on Twitter, and now he has no brakes. He needs a newsflash that social media is a pretty bad example for real life. There's about 500 million "people" on Twitter out of what are we at now? Probably 5 or 6 billion over the age of 18? He got duped by the million Twitter followers and the probably ~ 25k virtually sucking his dick every day. It's a drop in the fucking bucket.
Social media has ruined him. Not that he didn't have problems before, but he's become a social media addict, and he's too egotistical and childish to handle large scale criticism.
There’s been rumors for years that Apple’s been considering getting into the EV market. It’d be hilarious if this is what finally pushes them to do it and they just eviscerate Elon’s only cash cow.
Ironic considering his car business model is the Apple business model. Keep it all in house and make people pay way more than needed because they can't go elsewhere.
I mean, business is all about leveraging advantages you have. Musk's advantage is that he knows how to get a car company treated as a tech company. Nobody had ever done that in the car industry before, so he got pretty far with that.
Ironic because it’s always been this way with Apple and musk is an idiot for not know or a malicious baby trying to stir shit so he looks like a victim. Probably the latter.
"Tim Apple" has got to be one of the best Trumpisms. It's just so perfectly simple-minded, like a 3 year old who forgot a name and just says the closest thing that comes to mind.
Twitter makes money off ad revenue. If Apple and Google pull apps out, especially for a reason like lack of hate speech moderation, advertising will be hit hard. The vestigial image of twitter as a place for family-friendly audience outreach will crumble completely, not to mention traffic volumes dropping off a cliff. The big spender brands that have left will not return and there will be more brands that drop. Direct attack on main revenue stream.
With Elons management of Twitter so far, I’m sure Apple will do just fine. After all, Apple didn’t fire like 2/3 of their legal and compliance staff as a start…
Well I bet my money on the trillion dollar mc in this case. It's time Elon gets humbled. It'd be fucking hilarious if they dump twitter from the appstore
I think this guy is trying to kill twitter on purpose. Didn't he see what apple did to facebook???? Apple can destroy damn near every company. It can destroy entire economies abroad.
In no way am I defending Apple but didn’t Apple build the App store from the ground up? Government intervention on how Apple should run their store is like government intervention on how Target or Walmart should run their store. Isn’t that what conservatives cry about all the time? To not allow government interference with the free market? I guess Elon Musk and every conservative is a communist then. I’m just going by their logic.
I don’t think Musk or his followers have the first idea of how our government works. They think “freedom of speech” means “you have to keep advertising on my platform no matter what”
It’d be DOA if it wasn’t at least Android based. A majority of the success for iOS and Android is the App Store/Play Store itself, not the actual hardware. The Kindle Fire was okay in the beginning but the rise of cheap Android Tablets that weren’t locked to the Kindle Store or whatever killed them. Microsoft & Nokia released a phone you could take a hammer & nail to the front screen, not shatter it then make a call but the Windows App Store took forever to catch up with even the most basic apps iOS and Android had.
If there are financial transactions that happen in the app, then Apple takes a 30% cut. I'm not sure how this affects Twitter, because I can't think of a single time when there was an in-app transaction on Twitter. I think this may be related to the $8/month Verified Account thing he wants to try.
Why must the stupidest man in the public eye constantly be shoved in my face while I'm on this site. First it was trump and now this toolshed is taking the reins in tandem
So basically, this guy bought a free karaoke bar, hogs the mic, shuns anybody else who wants to speak on it, and now wants to charge people at the free karaoke bar if they would like a special sticker to wear on their T-shirt? Douche canoe without a paddle.
Cool. Would be great to see him throw another staggering amount of money away getting into a field he knows nothing about thinking he can fix everything because he thinks all the people already there are idiots.
As a person who avoided Twitter and gave the bare minimum to FB and most other social media sites as well as an android user, this shit is HILARIOUS to watch.
Lets see, the owner of 55% of the mobile phone market with a strong presence in other areas of technology, vs. a mouthy jackass with an electric car that can drive itself but you still have to pay attention and can't use your phone, who has spent the $billions in the last month making one of the world's biggest social media platforms mostly irrelevant?
He’s going to war driving a 1979 POS; a car that is struggling to climb the off-ramp. Good luck taking your hoopty to the front line against a tech giant.
Does Musk go out of his way to pick the most unwinnable fights? The man is a walking disaster wrapped in dog shit wrapped in hobo blankets saturated in the piss of a man finishing a 3 day bender of bottom shelf flavored rum.
He’s a pretty shitty capitalist if he doesn’t understand that apple doesn’t have to host his app on their store at all if they don’t want to. It’s like hes speedrunning destroying Twitter.
For anyone curious on the outcome, precedent has been set that either A. Elon has to pay apple 30% which at $8 loses him money on every sale from lost ad rev or B. Can provide but not advertise paying online on the twitter website ($2 profit per purchase at $8)
Twitter needs Apple a whole lot more than Apple needs Twitter. Elon fails to realize he's alienating apples tech savvy consumers in favor of MAGA tech illiterates.
Yeah no way Apple is losing this lol, multi trillion company with the best lawyers probably. Apple has enough money to buy Twitter (41 billion which is roughly 2% of their value) Good luck Elon, free marketing for Apple
This reminds me of what we've already seen from publishers like Ubisoft and EA leaving Steam to start their own storefronts because they didn't want to pay Valve's 30% sales fee, then eventually came crawling back to Steam because, who'da thunk it?, 30% of sales is actually less than the price to host and maintain your own storefront and server infrastructure.
Dec 1st, 2022: Apple quietly hires all the former Twitter employees.
Google+ oh man that was a thing..
I read this in the same way that the Terminator informs Sarah of the timeline to judgement day.
Soon TSLA owners will start wondering why they can't open the car as Apple removes the app from store
Wait. You can use an app to unlock your Tesla?
Sick discount on the tesla phone for owning a tesla
Could we convince Leon to start a fight with Disney as well? I ask because I do not know a comp y more willing to litigate than Disney.
I am selling my Tesla as soon as Tesla opens up their charging network to all cars. It’s the biggest selling point at the moment.
You think this is going to last that long? Once a couple of Teslas on Autopilot "accidentally" crash into the Apple HQ and run over Tim Cook, I think the surviving board members will fold.
You can avoid the cut but just not taking payment in App. It's what all the streaming Services do.
Literally the easiest solution
Well, when Apple boots Twitter from their store, maybe someone will finally go & fix the web version, since they can't boot that.
YouTube charges ~30% more when subscribing through Apple.
This is exactly why Epic Games and Apple are currently in court. Fortnite held a promotion where you could get bonus ingame currency for buying from their website. Apple felt this was going around their payment wall and removed Fortnite from the app store.
Who the fuck pays for twitter?
Lol. "Go to war." Apple doesn't give af.
Yeah Apple will lose all that revenue it wasn't getting anyway, I'm sure they'll be hurting.
Elon fired most of the people who could even “gO tO wAr!” anyway.
Apple cash on hand for 2022 was $48.304B. Have fun fighting the war.
It's closer to $50 billion on hand an crossed a 3 trillion(1) market cap... Elno is beyond deluded into thinking his massively in debt platform that has fewer users than Pinterest is this all important all seeing all knowing platform that people give that big a shit about. He's like a tiny fly fighting a bored cat that, if the cat wanted to, it could just squish and eat or squish and walk away from.
So they could have bought twitter and not indebted themselves to foreign powers?
The first of the classic blunders, never get involved in a legal war with Apple
Three universal truths:
Lol dude thought billions were bigger than trillions. Honest mistake.
Yep.. he will lose and spend millions while losing
Unless you are Qualcomm
Yeah this is a really bad idea on his part. Apples revenue stream comes from a ridiculous number of places and there's no possibility their market will dry up.
Apple has $48B in cash on hand. Yeah yeah go to war, Tora Tora Tora.
Rule #1: The house always gets a cut.
The house always wins*
Rule #1 is don’t get high off your own supply. The house always gets a cut must be rule #2. Also I think Elon is breaking them both.
Didn't Epic Games lose in court when they tried to fight AAPLs 30% cut? Not sure what happened to that but we could use it as a guide into what the courts will decide for elon.
It was Epic, with Fortnite. Basically you can provided links out to pay, but in app payments still go through the apple store
I don't understand why the didn't go the Netflix route and just require all transactions to happen over web instead of in-app.
It is currently going through the appeal process. Will take years to get a definitive result. Bunch of companies joined Epic on the appeal. Likely Twitter will too.
The court case was sort of won by Epic, they could have links that go to Epic directly but if you had lets say an Apple Gift Card you would want to keep the purchase in-app so that you can use that to pay.
You’re thinking of Epic Games I think.
One company has a $2.29T market cap, the other leveraged to the tits with $1B annual interest payments - I wonder who will win this “war”?! /s
Time to sell TSLA
1Billion in interest? that's insane
Good luck. Epic Games and Spotify have been at this for years – and they at least have consumer revenue to speak of. What's he going to leverage? No more tweets on iOS? That's probably already the case on most devices.
It's almost like Elon doesn't want advertising on "new" twitter at all. 30% has been industry standard for years now and it wont be changing anytime soon, people been trying to fight it but time and time again it falls flat on its face as the justification is always "if you don't like it, make your own platform".
Epic and Spotify are tiny. You have to remember that even Amazon with Audible stop fighting with Apple.
stock, he will pay with stock.
lol puts on TSLA?
Is he e sb running that company anymore? I’d be furious if I owned Tesla shares
Just like how he severely overpaid for Twitter thanks to his severely big mouth.
He's got three red ones and two black ones. That's gotta be something.
Apple removing Twitter wouldn’t even be a bump in the road for Apple.
It wouldn't even be a fly on the windshield
I think Elon is banking on republicans interfering by forcing apple to do it because “muh freeze peach”
Twitter needs Apple. Apple doesn’t need Twitter.
Samsung smart fridge needs twitter
As Bas Rutten said, there is a rule in street fighting. You never fuck with someone who holds you in a superior position. You don't start to poke a guy in the eye who holds you in a headlock. He'll just choke you out. Apple can choke out Twitter any time they want.
Apple's about 5 seconds away from making its own twitter if you arent careful
Wait till Apple makes their own Twitter clone.
No one needs Twitter.
It would be interesting to see teslas not working anymore with iphones.
If Elon ran Apple and Elon insulted Elon like that? I bet Elon would remotely wipe Elons phone.
He would first probably leak the entire contents.
Elon would call Elon a pedo first then wipe the phone.
That's a wild thought. All the billionaires mostly use iPhones. Apple has all the dirt...
Based. I believe he would, 100%. I didn't always think he would, but the past year has been illuminating.
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the man's brain has been replaced. by meme culture. that's not a red flag.. right?
When WSB is having sober discussion on concerns around someone’s addiction to meme culture.. it’s gotta be pretty bleak
He got so gassed up about people blowing him on Twitter, and now he has no brakes. He needs a newsflash that social media is a pretty bad example for real life. There's about 500 million "people" on Twitter out of what are we at now? Probably 5 or 6 billion over the age of 18? He got duped by the million Twitter followers and the probably ~ 25k virtually sucking his dick every day. It's a drop in the fucking bucket.
Dudes going full Kanye “I can say whatever I want Apple won’t kick twitter off the App Store.”
Social media has ruined him. Not that he didn't have problems before, but he's become a social media addict, and he's too egotistical and childish to handle large scale criticism.
He's a walking "fellow kids" meme.
this is by far his biggest fuckup yet lol there's a reason people haven't challenged the apple monopoly
Elon has a trove of nut huggers who tell him every hair brain thing he does is genius. He has lost all sense of reality.
There’s been rumors for years that Apple’s been considering getting into the EV market. It’d be hilarious if this is what finally pushes them to do it and they just eviscerate Elon’s only cash cow.
American regulators suck?
Sonos did win against Google
Ironic considering his car business model is the Apple business model. Keep it all in house and make people pay way more than needed because they can't go elsewhere.
I mean, business is all about leveraging advantages you have. Musk's advantage is that he knows how to get a car company treated as a tech company. Nobody had ever done that in the car industry before, so he got pretty far with that.
“Innovation”
$10k full self driving, coming some time next year*
Ironic because it’s always been this way with Apple and musk is an idiot for not know or a malicious baby trying to stir shit so he looks like a victim. Probably the latter.
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Apple doesn’t need twitter. Twitter desperately needs apple. Elon is a fucking idiot
Puts on TSLA, Elon is cash poor and will keep selling his shares
On top of being ABSURDLY overvalued in the first place.
It's a single auto manufacturer with LOTS of problems valued higher than the next three companies combined.
Funny how Elon hates the free market when it's convenient.
Sir, freedom of speech is when everyone is forced to listen to Elon tweeting stupid shit have you even read the bill of rights?
So his a libertarian
man he's losing it, he didn't even meme with a tesla.
Not his fault, that was up to the person he stole the meme from
Tim Apple doesn't even know who this Twitter guy is tho.
His name is Elon Twitter
It's pronounced Tweeter
"Tim Apple" has got to be one of the best Trumpisms. It's just so perfectly simple-minded, like a 3 year old who forgot a name and just says the closest thing that comes to mind.
Did you know that Elon take 30% of every Tesla thats sold?
Why is this even something Elon cares about? Twitter is free.
Twitter makes money off ad revenue. If Apple and Google pull apps out, especially for a reason like lack of hate speech moderation, advertising will be hit hard. The vestigial image of twitter as a place for family-friendly audience outreach will crumble completely, not to mention traffic volumes dropping off a cliff. The big spender brands that have left will not return and there will be more brands that drop. Direct attack on main revenue stream.
With Elons management of Twitter so far, I’m sure Apple will do just fine. After all, Apple didn’t fire like 2/3 of their legal and compliance staff as a start…
Fired the compliance and legal staff...with the strict European moderation laws just coming into effect.
Not 2/3rds of the compliance staff. 2/3rds of the entire staff.
He should F around and find out. Ask Epic Games. Lol.
Well I bet my money on the trillion dollar mc in this case. It's time Elon gets humbled. It'd be fucking hilarious if they dump twitter from the appstore
Hope they do.
Elon will never be humbled. Ever.
Lol apple is the WORLDS most recognizable brand, Tesla isnt even the worlds highest selling EV
Selling more Tesla shares should be the turn signal
If Apple can block Elon Musk from my consciousness, I will buy the next iPhone.
Does paypal really give apple a 30 percent cut?
No. It's treated like a banking app.
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He's just constantly trying to get his fansboi's to focus on anything other than his inept leadership.
I think this guy is trying to kill twitter on purpose. Didn't he see what apple did to facebook???? Apple can destroy damn near every company. It can destroy entire economies abroad.
I don't know about that but their slaves over in China are getting pretty p*ssed.
This is horrible.
If he kills it on purpose, how is Musk going to attempt to manipulate the Market without it?
Elon is a genuine moron
He bought a site with a smaller userbase than Pinterest and thinks he’s an all-powerful demigod now
Does Twitter even pay anything to Apple?
Everyone pays Apple.
Subscriptions paid for through the app…?
To be an iOS developer and publish an app you have to pay apple 100 dollars a year.
Yes, they pay Apple 30% of Twitter Blue revenue on iOS.
This loser posts memes about himself. JFC
Memes about himself In the third person. I literally cringe from second hand embarrassment
In no way am I defending Apple but didn’t Apple build the App store from the ground up? Government intervention on how Apple should run their store is like government intervention on how Target or Walmart should run their store. Isn’t that what conservatives cry about all the time? To not allow government interference with the free market? I guess Elon Musk and every conservative is a communist then. I’m just going by their logic.
I don’t think Musk or his followers have the first idea of how our government works. They think “freedom of speech” means “you have to keep advertising on my platform no matter what”
Twitter needs Apple, Apple doesn't need Twitter, just like it didn't need Fortnite.
Exactly. Apple gave Meta a multi billion dollar black eye when they decided it was time to bring them down a notch. Elon better be careful.
I actually want Tim Cook to reply to all of this really simply...like:
I actually think it's even more insulting if Tim doesn't even reply.
Sir, it's Tim Apple
"New account, who dis?" would be catastrophic.
“Oh, honey”.
Microsoft, Facebook, and Amazon tried to disrupt the smartphone iOS/Android duopoly and failed.
Don't think he is getting government loans for such a venture, either.
It’d be DOA if it wasn’t at least Android based. A majority of the success for iOS and Android is the App Store/Play Store itself, not the actual hardware. The Kindle Fire was okay in the beginning but the rise of cheap Android Tablets that weren’t locked to the Kindle Store or whatever killed them. Microsoft & Nokia released a phone you could take a hammer & nail to the front screen, not shatter it then make a call but the Windows App Store took forever to catch up with even the most basic apps iOS and Android had.
omg do you think he has some poor bastard lackey making memes about him or do you think he does it himself?
I love how Apple probably doesn’t even give a fuck. They’re probably like “oh you wanna make your own phone? Cool. See how that works out.”
Puts on TSLA maybe
This week on: Elon does something stupid.
As someone who’s been investing in TSLA for years, someone who has been following Musk’s enterprises very close for very long… this guy is an idiot.
Can someone explain the context of the 30% and apple?
anyone who has an app on the app store and sells certain digital products has to give a cut to apple which is 30%
If there are financial transactions that happen in the app, then Apple takes a 30% cut. I'm not sure how this affects Twitter, because I can't think of a single time when there was an in-app transaction on Twitter. I think this may be related to the $8/month Verified Account thing he wants to try.
He'd probably selling his stocks into the recent pump to build up his war chest.
this is so stupid. i don’t get his end game going after apple
What a fucking dork
Puts on twitter if I could
Puts on TSLA musk uses it like it's his bank. He'll dip into it eventually
He knows what he was doing when he took it private. If it's still public the price would plunge to hell.
Are you telling me someone is actually paying to use Twitter?
hundreds of his loyal stans paid their 8$ for the magic blue cocksuckcircle
Yeah…AAPL > Musk all day
Rumors that Elon buying up Blackberry shares
If he actually buys out Blackberry and creates his own fun I'll eat a sock.
Imagine thinking bc you're Elon that people will trade their iPhone for a Blackberry lmao
Can’t wait for Twitter to release the “Race War 3000” cell phone so they can ditch Apple
I’m sure the most valuable company in the world is shaking in their boots over a moron running a failing company
Why must the stupidest man in the public eye constantly be shoved in my face while I'm on this site. First it was trump and now this toolshed is taking the reins in tandem
So basically, this guy bought a free karaoke bar, hogs the mic, shuns anybody else who wants to speak on it, and now wants to charge people at the free karaoke bar if they would like a special sticker to wear on their T-shirt? Douche canoe without a paddle.
TSLA Bros, you better get your boy or you'll be poor by 2024.
Cool. Would be great to see him throw another staggering amount of money away getting into a field he knows nothing about thinking he can fix everything because he thinks all the people already there are idiots.
Tesla puts it is!
Puts? LOL, load up on Apple calls right now!!
Tesla puts bout to print
For such a total all-time super-duper-genius, Musk sure is one dumb melonfarmer
Is elon going to be the first billionaire to end up on welfare?
Nah think Kanye reached that status last month
Sure, but puts on what? Probably TSLA.
Musk thinks free speech only applies to who he says it does lol.
If they yank Twitter app from the store it’s bankruptcy time for Elon 🤣
So now the Elon dick riders hate Apple? 🤣🍿
What a regard 😂
LMAO what will wacky electric car man do next?
As a person who avoided Twitter and gave the bare minimum to FB and most other social media sites as well as an android user, this shit is HILARIOUS to watch.
Cult of personality vs cultural tech community.
Twitter puts?
puts on tesla
He’s like if Michael Scott was a CEO
Lets see, the owner of 55% of the mobile phone market with a strong presence in other areas of technology, vs. a mouthy jackass with an electric car that can drive itself but you still have to pay attention and can't use your phone, who has spent the $billions in the last month making one of the world's biggest social media platforms mostly irrelevant?
He’s going to war driving a 1979 POS; a car that is struggling to climb the off-ramp. Good luck taking your hoopty to the front line against a tech giant.
Does Musk go out of his way to pick the most unwinnable fights? The man is a walking disaster wrapped in dog shit wrapped in hobo blankets saturated in the piss of a man finishing a 3 day bender of bottom shelf flavored rum.
He’s a pretty shitty capitalist if he doesn’t understand that apple doesn’t have to host his app on their store at all if they don’t want to. It’s like hes speedrunning destroying Twitter.
For anyone curious on the outcome, precedent has been set that either A. Elon has to pay apple 30% which at $8 loses him money on every sale from lost ad rev or B. Can provide but not advertise paying online on the twitter website ($2 profit per purchase at $8)
Elon is a total 🤡
"go to war" is cry baby billionaire for "whine and complain endlessly on Twitter all day, everyday."
Puts on TSLA
Twitter needs Apple a whole lot more than Apple needs Twitter. Elon fails to realize he's alienating apples tech savvy consumers in favor of MAGA tech illiterates.
His idea of go to war is to spend billions on a smart phone that seventy two people will buy. He's out of his league unless he gets a lot more help.
No amount of help will make that even remotely successful.
Elon is becoming like Kanye west. Unhinged and psychotic. He badly needs some psychiatrist treatment
Fuck Elon musk he is evil the world needs to realize that.
This man is so annoying.
Didn’t Spotify and Hulu have this same problem?
Yeah no way Apple is losing this lol, multi trillion company with the best lawyers probably. Apple has enough money to buy Twitter (41 billion which is roughly 2% of their value) Good luck Elon, free marketing for Apple
He has too much on his plate already. Does he really believe he can create a profitable iPhone and Android competitor too?
This reminds me of what we've already seen from publishers like Ubisoft and EA leaving Steam to start their own storefronts because they didn't want to pay Valve's 30% sales fee, then eventually came crawling back to Steam because, who'da thunk it?, 30% of sales is actually less than the price to host and maintain your own storefront and server infrastructure.