I have a SPY PUT $424 expiration 12/30/2022. I break even at $388 and am currently 33% down. This rally since CPI on 11/02 has lasted longer than Iād hoped. Itās tough to hold but Iām waiting for Powell. Iām tempted to buy another but theyāre expensive for me.
Unless the PCE inflation comes in hot I expect the SPY to break thru and year end rally and sucker everyone in only to realize in 2023 rates are going to be 5% for years.
I would say that you didn't have to circle the tops and explain that they were lower highs because it's blatant to see but I forget that some of these people are regarded.
thats what everyone and they Uber driver thinks, thefore you will get ironed out on the way up - Blackrock has $10T of assets to pump the price and smoke out everyone like you.
Man, watch this thing have a huge wick down after it passes the 200ma just to destroy all the bears before destroying the bulls who went in at that level. Then maybe a continuation down. But the market must take the most peopleās money first.
I bought puts on this 3 weeks ago thinking I was smart, ponied up and bought 12/23 410ās. Now Iām nervous that itās looking so predictable and people here are posting their shitty TA graphs on it
Betting against the market in historically one of the best months of the year (December), and after the fed said it would consider easing on the breaks (lower rate hikes).
Market is in a well defined downward trend. There is a high probability S&P won't breach the 3-touch resistance line (Red) in the near future (~3months). The 50 week moving average (Blue) is also reinforcing the resistance by converging with the resistance line. My Play: Waiting for SPY to reach 410 and then buying puts with 4 to 5 month out expiries with strike prices of anywhere between 390 to 370. Closing out the positions at the first big drop that brings SPY below 400 again.
The lower after the trendline touch needs to be taken out just like what happened every other time. If banks want to go short they need to take out stops. Where better to find stops than the last lower high. So trend line might get broken a little
The S&P 500 is currently in a confirmed downtrend, with another lower high being made today. Prices are unable to breakout from resistance around 4100 and have now pulled back below 4000. Next support is at 3800, followed by 3639.50.
since everyone is betting for massive selloff/ resistance line bounce, it might be wise to bet for rally to continue. nothing makes sense anymore. just too many bearish posts imho.
I am absolutely amazed at all the wishful thinking that says we will have a sustained rally for the rest of 2022 and into 2023. Yāall shills for the big funds out there?
I wonder if somebody has a real statistical analysis of inverse Cramer trades. Thinking I might inverse paper trade his bs just to see how it pans out.
It was a massively lower low, what on earth are you talking about? Not even accounting for the wick, the close was a lower low as well. Not even close.
sorry for the noob post. i've read all the comments below, what does this mean that SPY is going to tank soon? if so, what is the bottom? just trying to protect myself. i appreciate it. thanks
Damnit. The more people post about their SPY puts on here, the more the trading algo and hedgies market manipulate the shit out of SPY to nuke the puts with Theta.
Quit messing around with options? Save and invest 10% of your gross earnings into SPY/QQQ for 45 years. Sorry, there's no magic formula for investing success except for time and growth.
I will wait to see a rejection of level There is no reason for stock to break out of resistance Inflation is not down yet, the cost of life has never been this high And on the technical point of view the 50 ema and the descending trendline give it take couple of points higher is where the bears are waiting to short No short squeeze for me yet, not this time I will short
Unregard for a moment. Wait until December FOMC to buy puts, thereās currently nothing thatās going to drag down SPY until the rate decision so if you buy puts on Monday theta will make you itās bitch. The week of FOMC you can look to load puts as we should see some derisking leading into Thursday and then perhaps a big move down depending on JPows statements. Donāt just blindly buy puts though
If you do, you gotta share your position and results!
I will lol I'm up 3% but after seeing this post I wanna close them now šš
I have a SPY PUT $424 expiration 12/30/2022. I break even at $388 and am currently 33% down. This rally since CPI on 11/02 has lasted longer than Iād hoped. Itās tough to hold but Iām waiting for Powell. Iām tempted to buy another but theyāre expensive for me.
Lol fucking never fails. Calls it is.
Inversing this, as is tradition.
Can you even read the chart, bro?
If we donāt got back towards 350 EOY Iām fukād
I think secretly a bunch of people here are short and about to be broke as fuck⦠thereās maybe a handful of us left with calls.
I'm short, I'll see you in Valhalla
If I were to believe graphsā¦sure!
But the lines, aren't they convincing? Surely this falls under the "technical analysis" umbrella! Perhaps more lines would convince you.
Graphs tell the future dude, everybody knows that.
If
This time is different. Santa Rally. š
Cool, tell us what the fundamentals are indicating then?
Hitting the trend line and cratering is the obvious play, so everyone loads up on calls.
Thatās the obvious play, so puts again.
Unless the PCE inflation comes in hot I expect the SPY to break thru and year end rally and sucker everyone in only to realize in 2023 rates are going to be 5% for years.
PCE will be low
lol years. What a fucking moron
Iād bet your mom that rates hit 8% by end of next year.
I would say that you didn't have to circle the tops and explain that they were lower highs because it's blatant to see but I forget that some of these people are regarded.
Need moar crayons honestly.
Well regarded even.
Iām regarding this reptarded shit!
Luck all thiees stoopid regarges weff their lins and garaphs
See, when you post shit like this on WSB the MMs see it and inverse us so we lose all our money.
Letās confuse them by posting the exact opposite sentiment but same chart.
Exactly fuck this guy
If they know that we know they make moves based on WSB, then they would do to opposite of the opposite.
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Just tiny tiny bit of green maybe in the range of 406 or 407.. then ill go 100% Puts
447 incoming !!
Wow, you read my mind.
thats what everyone and they Uber driver thinks, thefore you will get ironed out on the way up - Blackrock has $10T of assets to pump the price and smoke out everyone like you.
$415 too greedy?
I'm thinking around 412-417, then to lower low.
410 too greedy?
You and everybody and there mother. Inverse this.
There are other confluences at play ā
Please let the fed come out with 100bps.
sounds bullish
Yep, everyone seems to be in agreement
We will breakout, get everyone thinking it is a new bull market and then we pull the rug!
Yep
That's what I'm looking for
This is the sort of TA that confirms my biases. I like it very much and will use it to guide my puts next week/month.
Man, watch this thing have a huge wick down after it passes the 200ma just to destroy all the bears before destroying the bulls who went in at that level. Then maybe a continuation down. But the market must take the most peopleās money first.
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I bought puts on this 3 weeks ago thinking I was smart, ponied up and bought 12/23 410ās. Now Iām nervous that itās looking so predictable and people here are posting their shitty TA graphs on it
likewise
447
You and everyone have this plot. But you and everyone could be right. Once. Donāt let it go to your head.
Vix under $20 Then itās time?
Nah, I have been a good boy for Christmas, so Santa is coming. Hope it not Cramer dressed in a Santa suite though.
That awful nasal voice, like he never passed puberty.
Santa Clause rally!
just seems too obvious now
Betting against the market in historically one of the best months of the year (December), and after the fed said it would consider easing on the breaks (lower rate hikes).
Market is in a well defined downward trend. There is a high probability S&P won't breach the 3-touch resistance line (Red) in the near future (~3months). The 50 week moving average (Blue) is also reinforcing the resistance by converging with the resistance line. My Play: Waiting for SPY to reach 410 and then buying puts with 4 to 5 month out expiries with strike prices of anywhere between 390 to 370. Closing out the positions at the first big drop that brings SPY below 400 again.
It sounds good until it doesn't happen and the FED pivots
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Good for you. I'll be buying your positions and never selling. Keep your worthless paper. š
will you shove a burning candle up your ass when your crayons turn out to be wrong?
The lower after the trendline touch needs to be taken out just like what happened every other time. If banks want to go short they need to take out stops. Where better to find stops than the last lower high. So trend line might get broken a little
Everyone and their mom is calling this. Wouldnāt be surprised to see a false breakout on this
no. marketās going sideways until may. source: 2002 SPX. do you think option sellers are stupid? everyone sees this, especially them.
See ya at 420
Thereās no way this thing breaks out to upside at this pointā¦oh wait this is the most irrational market to have ever existed!!!!
im all in @4040 with puts. let it burn baby
447 incoming !!
The S&P 500 is currently in a confirmed downtrend, with another lower high being made today. Prices are unable to breakout from resistance around 4100 and have now pulled back below 4000. Next support is at 3800, followed by 3639.50.
sorry for the noob question but i just started investing in SPY and SP indexes, so based off this i should stop? thank you
I'll be watching for 408/412 range and slowly get into some end of December mid January puts while I scalp spx
puts unless jpow does something fancy for christmas
4125 and down we go
Grabbed some uvxy Jan calls last week.
I'm bullish on the price but I have open puts currently they expire this coming Friday
since everyone is betting for massive selloff/ resistance line bounce, it might be wise to bet for rally to continue. nothing makes sense anymore. just too many bearish posts imho.
Are you related to Cramer? If yes, Iāll inverse you. If no putās it is.
of coarse,, we gonna break the red MA....3400 is conservative for me...sure shot
I am absolutely amazed at all the wishful thinking that says we will have a sustained rally for the rest of 2022 and into 2023. Yāall shills for the big funds out there?
You dumb fucks that fight the fed have severe brain damage.
This.
Oh boy, lines
Seems too easy
Yes, been stupidly holding them since September. I wanted to see how low SPY could go. (So far not low enough to break even lmfao ;_;)
I wonder if somebody has a real statistical analysis of inverse Cramer trades. Thinking I might inverse paper trade his bs just to see how it pans out.
already in shorts
Your chart doesnāt even bother filling in the positive candles green no more it just leave āem blank.
I posted about this a few days ago -
Eat shit. The QQQs already broke and retreated. Itās not about the crayons but about the overall market.
Too obvious. Bears gonna be r3kt
I mean, we gotta see lower lows again. Aināt no way, even if we donāt Iāll keep fighting the trend like a degenerate
Chart + ādonāt fight the Fedā = puts
What about the fact that there is a higher bottom on this section?
Higher bottom? Look at the green line
It was a massively lower low, what on earth are you talking about? Not even accounting for the wick, the close was a lower low as well. Not even close.
Everyone load puts now! Then watch as the market wonāt go down when everyone has puts
sorry for the noob post. i've read all the comments below, what does this mean that SPY is going to tank soon? if so, what is the bottom? just trying to protect myself. i appreciate it. thanks
It means no one knows shit about anything. Just some gamblers trying to time the market as usual.
Itāll break the trend. Inflation numbers are starting to print downward and the fed said that they will start slowing rate increases.
This shit is already priced in anything else but this will send us back to the basement
It feels like when the fed stops hiking, that may be a good time to pull out tbh
Yup, look at the OBV itās at the same level as when we were trading $40 less. Itās going to tank
Can you explain what the OBV is and what it means? I have few scripts that I saved before they were removed from tradingview
Damnit. The more people post about their SPY puts on here, the more the trading algo and hedgies market manipulate the shit out of SPY to nuke the puts with Theta.
Go 0dte and don't worry about the theta
NO
Thatās the safe money. Or this time it breaks the trend and put holders go broke
It will probably break the trend temporarily just to destroy put premium and scare shorts out before tanking and destroying longs.
Who the fuck is JJASON???
Seems to obvious to me
nope. calls into it. puts for like a day, then calls all December. Have fun going all in puts for juicy loss porn
Yes
The only TA I respect are Tits and Ass.
That's SPX you fucking moron, it says it in the top left
Whoās going to tell him?
Delete this lol
Quit messing around with options? Save and invest 10% of your gross earnings into SPY/QQQ for 45 years. Sorry, there's no magic formula for investing success except for time and growth.
In 45 years we might all be dead. Fuck that I donāt want to be rich and old. Need to be rich yesterday!
Sir, this is a casino.
Sir, this is a casino
It will drop to 34 or 35...
Not yet....but soon
I will wait to see a rejection of level There is no reason for stock to break out of resistance Inflation is not down yet, the cost of life has never been this high And on the technical point of view the 50 ema and the descending trendline give it take couple of points higher is where the bears are waiting to short No short squeeze for me yet, not this time I will short
Squeeze these nuts you fuckin nerd.
Oh theyāre buying puts and calls? Max pain or flat day incoming!
Just like Friday no fking action at all
If a plane or rocket flew up according to the trajectory of the chart, how likely is it to fly up to the deep blue sky, or dive and crash?
Not yet tiger, not yet
not too fast, santa clause is coming to town
I would wait till the lower high gets taken out so the banks can enter while taking liquidity
No
You first
Might as well, my last ones are worthless now anyways.
All the media has been saying end of the year rally. So maybe puts and shorts it is!
I am neck deep in it and have been devastated over last few weeks! š¬
Bless me teacher with a date and strike price
No, I bought puts so Iād definitely suggest calls.
If you can figure it out, then it wonāt happen.
Sending best regards regard.
Yeh. China gonna let Covid rip or shutdown for a very long time and the people are gonna freak out.
Spy 420.69 soon
I hope my puts for Monday cash out
Online sales are up 2.2% from last year, that's good news but good news lags so yeah PUT it is.
Here Kitty Kitty obvious.
Accidentally had my phone upside down, and it looked great!
Why not just wait and see š you do realize it CAN go either way right?
Yeah, too much greed atm
It would be a shame to see a spike to 428 and then fail....
Hold āem if you got em, boys!
Blah blah blah, something about the more times resistance is tested, the more likely it is to fail.
Do it
If you're gonna try puts then that's the place to do it
The only concern is the negative divergence from June low and way too obvious of a trend line for institutions to just grab all those puts to zero.
Unregard for a moment. Wait until December FOMC to buy puts, thereās currently nothing thatās going to drag down SPY until the rate decision so if you buy puts on Monday theta will make you itās bitch. The week of FOMC you can look to load puts as we should see some derisking leading into Thursday and then perhaps a big move down depending on JPows statements. Donāt just blindly buy puts though
I played PUTS expiration is Monday Edit: Iām down 50 percent. Just played one contract
Calls it is
Got puts but the amount of people going on the same trade as me makes me nervous and the market will rip for an unexpected santa rally . Calls it is!
Lil Zane said it best āThey Callin meā
Nope. Not yet.
nice lines bro
Wait, what is Cramer saying?
SPY is down 14% on the year. They predicting SPY will rise another 10% before this year is over.
Buy puts and calls!
Doesn't that w shape mean buy
Shhh youāll jinx it
Unfortunately I played them one week early but it's gonna be a hard fall when it hits soon
Calls, got it!
Zoom in, thereās some choppy upside left⦠maybe