Knee protection while skiing?

  1. Most knee injuries are not from impact so knee pads won't do much. Better to invest in lessons to make sure you're developing in a safe manner and have a baseline of conditioning going into the season.

  2. Get lessons. Poor technique more than anything kills knees. It’s known as back seat or swivel hip and it requires a person to twist their body transferring power from the hips to the back of the skis to throw the tails side to side. This torque sideways motion is what causes knee injuries. The skier gets going to fast, leans back and twists but if there is too much speed and ski edges the person’s twisting motion while weighted back results in the knee ripping. Ski lessons will teach a technique that never puts weight back and asks you to twist. Basically this turn is never used in proper skiing. They instead teach you how to turn the ski from the tip and pressing it into the snow using the front of your boot. It’s very hard to learn, which is why everyone encourages lessons. Once learned you can spend the rest of your life perfecting it. The turn has a million subtle variations but they all start from tiny movements inside the boot, not from the hip.

  3. Come to big sky and take a lesson with us! We’ll make sure you’re not putting your knees at unnecessary risk. Plus it’s fun!

  4. OP. I’ve had an ACL reconstruction on one knee from Skiing and Soccer. Renowned surgeon. I asked if I should wear a brace post-op. His response was nope trust your knee is good to go and live your life.

  5. Oof i feel ya dude. Lifelong soccer player and skier here. 2 years post fractured and dislocated patella. Been doing a ton of knee strengthening exercises, mostly Bulgarian split squats. Happy to hear you're back to normal. Curious if you still play? I'm terrified to trust anyone around my knees again. I trust my knee, I don't trust other people

  6. Thanks for this! My physio said something similar to me this summer after I ripped all the muscles in my calf and hyper extended my ACL and MCL as well as doing some long-term nerve damage. She told me to put the damn barbell on my back and start squatting again, but I've been so scared. I should just suck it up if I ever want to get over this 80% better hump.

  7. Preach. I’ve had both knees (skiing and beer league softball) and both surgeons told me knee braces are a false sense of security. Train squats and lunges, avoid backwards twisting falls.

  8. Thea won’t help you with the knee injuries you are referring to. Most common injuries are MCL and ACL injuries from the leverage of your ski twisting your leg during a crash. If you are a beginner the best thing you can do is make sure your DIN setting (amount of force it takes for your bonding to release) is proper for your weight and skiing ability.

  9. Want to also point out the linked knee pads are used by most telemark skiers I know. Great for preventing impact injuries that can happen when you’re constantly dropping your knees near the ground at high speeds.

  10. Those knee pads won't help much. They protect against impact injuries, while most skiing injuries are internal structural damage from twisting or torturing. If anything you could try wearing a brace of some sort, though I might recommend consulting a doctor or PT first.

  11. Efficient technique is your best hedge against knee injury. Most of the ACL type injuries come from being “in the back seat” with your hips behind your feet, then losing control and twisting the knee. Keep the terrain within your comfort zone. Extend your legs to move your center of mass (body) down the hill when you initiate the turn to help you stay on top of your skis, rather than being behind them. I’d advise getting a series of lessons, rather than knee pads.

  12. Get lessons, hit the gym. Lessons will teach you good form. Gym work will strengthen up your muscles which will go a long way in protecting yourself (also give you more stamina on the mountain).

  13. Strong legs = safer knees. If you are really concerned you could get those huge external knee braces that like nfl linemen wear to protect ligaments

  14. Echoing this, while a good setup is paramount to prevent twisting injuries, cross training and doing squats to strengthen your knees, ankles and hips is the insurance policy to prevent the scenarios that cause twisting accidents. Strength = stability

  15. Orthopedic knee braces aren't uncommon and a doctor could refer you to a good device. But also just exercising and building strong knees in the pre-season helps prevent injuries.

  16. I wore a compression sleeve after spraining my knee on the slopes a few years ago and tbh it made it a little harder to ski but it also helped strengthen the muscles around my knee and kept it from twisting around so that by the end of the season the injured knee was the stronger one.

  17. There is no data to support wearing a knee brace prophylactically. Proper technique and strength training are much better alternatives.

  18. Most severe knee injuries aren't from impact, they're from twisting. The most effective way to prevent those injuries is to have good binding that is set to the appropriate DIN. Go to the shop to have a good tune on your skis and bindings to make sure everything is right for your height, weight, and level of skiing.

  19. Put your money in lessons, don’t ski runs you aren’t ready to ski and don’t ski a last run when you probably should just call it.

  20. Those POC pads are for slalom racers who are bashing gates. if you didn't have knee problems before you start, you'll probably be fine

  21. Proper skiing form and strength training will make you more resilient to injuries than anything else. Take some lessons from a professional instructor and hit the gym.

  22. Knee injuries in skiing relate more to fitness/strength and technique. Get some good lessons, don't overdo it, and do some exercise to build up leg strength and you'll be sorted

  23. Most posters here have pretty much covered everything. I sprained my knee twice skiing. Skied with a brace with one of those metal hinges on it for a few years after. I got sick of the brace after a while and decided to do some strengthening of the knee. Finally got comfortable enough to ditch the brace and been happy ever since. If you just continue to build up your knee/leg strength, take lessons, and ensure you are skiing with good form, then you’ll help avoid knee injuries. With all things though, shit can happen when you least expect it. Just go out there, have fun and not worry about your knees constantly. Odds are you’ll be fine most of the time.

  24. Those won’t help the knees much. Exercise and strength training, as well as good form through instruction is better.

  25. The orthopedic surgeon who did my ACL reconstruction from a skiing injury told me that no knee brace is going to prevent a knee injury.

  26. Build up your VMO’s (vastus medialus oblique muscles). They’re the teardrop shaped quad muscle just above and inside of the kneecap. They’re the only leg muscle with a transverse component, so they have an outsize effect to stabilize the knee joint.

  27. This whole thread is honestly hilarious. Why does it feel like a meeting of 15 year olds, who are desperately trying to look cool? :)

  28. I wear knee protection when I ski but it’s not a knee pad against external injuries, it’s a knee brace made with metal and hinges to prevent over extension. Knee pads are protecting against the wrong problem.

  29. There are bindings for skis called knee bindings. They have good reviews and look like they would work.

  30. This won’t help you long term because they will just weaken the knee and surrounding areas since you won’t be using them as much.

  31. Stoko K1 knee brace. They are a type of adjustable knee brace pants. Can't speak highly enough about them. They are tight fitting so check the box as a thermal layer. Each leg has an independent cable mesh that runs from the waist to below the knees. You can adjust the tension of the cables(brace) using dials on the pants that are located on the lower back. The knobs are low profile so never feel them like sitting on a lift or driving to the mountain. You can release the tension at will during breaks or on the lift then just crank them as needed. Great for other activities as well.

  32. Try some Look Pivot bindings. They rotate at the heel, protecting you from twisting falls as they release differently than standard alpine binding. I had the misfortune of suffering a partial MCL tear after ~15 years of skiing, not fun. I had an old school frame binding that releases similar to an alpine binding and feel certain that my injury would have been much less severe if I had released, which is exactly what scenario Look Pivots are designed for (twisting falls). And, as others have said, don’t get into a DIN pissing contest and set it at or just below what is recommended for your height, weight, and ability.

  33. I see this a lot, this is untrue. The rotating heel design of Pivots is designed to prevent pre-release due to the binding design providing more elasticity. The binding doesn't release your heel horizontally, which is what would prevent an ACL tear. If there was any kind of measurable increase in knee safety from Pivots then Look would plaster it all over their ads. I don't blame you for thinking they are safer, as there is so much misinformation about Pivots (especially on this subreddit and NS).

  34. Used to ski and tore both ACL’s plying soccer/ volleyball. I never felt overly confident back on the ski hill post op. It was suggested me to try snowboarding instead… 20 years later I never had a knee injury out on the hill .

  35. These knee pads will help keep your knees warm and happy and help prevent injury. Like everyone else is saying lessons and proper technique and gear will go a long way in avoiding injury but in my experience keeping your knees warm helps alleviate the small strains and sprains you might experience in many minor falls.

  36. Agree with all the others, knee pads or braces wouldn’t help the common types of knee injuries from skiing.

  37. Those won’t do much. Better to get a good knee brace to protect your ligaments long term. In a severe enough crash, nothing will help

  38. You can work with a physio to strengthen all the various bits and pieces, plus it helps make sure you don’t get fatigued easily (which is often when bad things happen to the knee)

  39. Top of your list should be fitness. The stronger your legs and knees are the more your joints will be protected. When you brush your teeth do crouches alternating on each leg. I don’t mean to the floor, just bend ze knee. When you get stronger, go up to tip toe. I’ve been doing this daily for years. Made a massive diff.

  40. After skiing my for whole life, I finally managed to blow up my knee(MCL,MPFL, and Patella). I 100% blame myself for not paying as much attention to my form as I should of. There is no way any type of brace would it saved my knee. I’d highly recommend getting lessons to form good habits while skiing. Also remember that skiing is an extreme sport and getting hurt is part of it( don’t let it hold you back form skiing!). after sitting out this entire summer I plan to get back on the hill in December and I will probably be skiing with a knee sport brace. I still don’t think that brace will do much to keep me from having another major injury but It should help keep my knee from tweaking on minor crashes. I also remember from playing football in high school being told by a coach that wearing knee braces could make your knees weaker when you don’t need it.

  41. Knee injuries are from twisting the knee in a fall. Not from impacts. I do however have these exact knee protections from poc from when I ski telemark in powder. Never know what I might struck under the snow with my knee down.

  42. I wear knee sleeves and have gotten so used to them that I don't ski without. Doesn't ensure you won't hurt your knee but helps keep all the ligaments tightly in place. Stretching beforehand is also helpful. When you fall on a flat area never try and get up on your skis, that is the easiest way to pop a ligament always take one ski off on a flat surface fall.

  43. My advice is first, don't be drinking on the lift or at lunch, especially if you just arrived from a low elevation. The stats are not public but until they are, I assume most ski injuries involve alcohol. Second, just ski cautiously/conservatively, you do not need to straight line that run full of people. And lastly, don't ski cold. Keep those knees nice and warm so you can feel them and so they are more likely to bend when needed than break.

  44. Get lessons and modern gear that fits and functions. I wore a Donjoy brace for years after ACL reconstruction, and still occasionally wear a neoprene wrap. The brace was more of a mental crutch. Aside from the discomfort, it didn't make things better or worse.

  45. This is not true. Your DIN should be set for you based on a number of factors and shouldn’t be set “low”

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