Despite high heterogeneity across studies, these results indicate that children and adolescents on plant-based diets, especially those on vegan and macrobiotic diets, may be at risk of developing vitamin B12 deficiency.
I remember my doctor informing me at least 15 years back that vegetarians generally have B12 deficiency and hence am surprised to see that its being represented here as a new finding.
Animal feed is fortified with it, or animals injected with it, so if they've got to supplement it to get it in to meat eater diets, why is it a suprise that those not eating meat would need to supplement themselves? Agriculture and pollution have killed off the natural production of it so everyone needs to be supplementing somewhere in their food chain.
Vegetarians dont really have a high risk of B12 deficiency since they still eat animal products, we can store B12 very long in our bodies and we dont need that much of it.
Twenty years ago, my vegetarian classmate in university told me he had to travel to his parents once a month for his B12 shot because his new doctor wouldn't do them. He stopped going at some point and ended up in the ICU for five weeks when he had the flu. Learned to do them himself after that.
Yeah for decades this has been known, to be careful and intentional about B12 if you’re plant-based. I’ve been a vegetarian for many decades this isn’t new. I think the only new part is people who didn’t know this obvious thing and became plant based on a trend or whim, are hitting some nutritional deficiencies and are surprised and think it’s new info. I have been hearing about this from docs and articles and nutrition 101 in health class in grade school since I was a child, and as a vegetarian child it’s a part I paid attention to.
It's a little surprising to still see it, all the alternative milks are fortified with B12 these days so it's still plenty easy to get B12 in a plant based diet without other supplements.
I think the variance in rate of instance between subgroups is what they meant by heterogeneity. Heterogeneity is the opposite of homogeneity, which (give me some grace here, it's been 6 years since my Master's degree studies in Econometrics) essentially means the variation of the model error results are not uniform, which violates one of the requirements for Ordinary Least Squares (OLS) Regression.
People will point at the vegans, but at the same time forget that before we started putting Vitamin D in milk, we used to have problems and same for iodine in salt. Having to pay attention to one vitamin (which is now so well supplemented into foods, just like iodine and Vit. D) is not all that big of a deal.
Completely agree. If you look for studies, it's been found that a fair number of meat-eaters in the northern hemisphere are vitamin D deficient anyway, even with supplementation (I meant: fortification), because we generally don't get much sun in winter, and people's average daily milk consumption has dropped off steeply over the decades (generally having been replaced with soda, which does not have Vitamin D supplemented)
Yeah it's definitely more and more common these days. In The Game Changer they explain it's mainly due to the fact that B12 (edited: produced by bacteria) doesn't actually come from animals but from the soil that grows the plants animals consume, and how our extensive use of pesticide is killing them.
Vitamin B12 deficiency is common among several groups, especially older people and those with bariatric surgery. 40% of Western populations have low or marginal status of B12. The common recommendation is taking a vitamin B12 supplement which is literally pennies per day. Major dietetic associations (and loads of peer-reviewed studies) around the world recognize the safety and health benefits of a plant-based diet (
Yes. I track all my minerals and vitamins using chronometer, never had an issue and I hit all my targets. I can't stand the ppl who quit veganism and bad mouth it when they weren't eating whole foods and eating store bought processed vegan nuggets instead.
I've been vegan for nearly 3 decades, and you are correct in your assessment. It really isn't an issue for us. B12 pills are sold in tons of places like supermarkets and CVS's, and are dirt cheap.
The way I understand it is that the disease formerly known as pernicious anaemia which the old books would say is simply caused by a deficiency of B12 is actually caused by an autoimmune condition where the body's production of an incredibly generically named substance "intrinsic factor" has been halted or substantially reduced. Intrinsic factor is what enables the body to use B12. So the situation is more complicated than often presented. There is an apparent mystery about populations around the world where vegetarianism is usual and consumption of dairy is not practiced. The best guess about where the missing B12 comes from appears to be charmingly called "insect residue".
Serum b12 Bloodwork is not a very good indicator for overall b12 status, especially with supplementation (and fortification) what matters is that you feel good!!
Is this supposed to be novel information? Most physicians will discuss B-12 injections or B-12 supplements for their patients when they mention they are vegetarian or vegan. It is a very standard practice.
I can't think of any of my vegan friends here in the southwestern US that aren't aware that our diet needs B-12 supplementation. Some chose a tablet form, some use B-12 fortified nutritional yeast. Pretty much a non-issue. It may be an issue for teens that take up a vegan diet alone. Often that seems to be more of an eating disorder with plants rather than a dietary or ethical choice. If your child decides to eat nothing but lettuce based salads, they can lose weight and become malnourished pretty quickly. Bt if they are eating grains, legumes, fruit, starchy veggies, cruciferous, and nuts, all they need for supplementation is B-12 and flax seed for omega 3
Started taking the B complex pill, replaced my caffeine pills with em. Makes a huge difference to someone who kinda neglects eating and all the proper things. For me anyway. Turns your wiz into neon yellow flat rockstar but energy all day.
It also should be pointed out that meat is high in b12 because livestock is supplemented cobalt. So if you are getting your b12 from eating burgers it’s due to second hand supplementation.
To clarify, cows are given cobalt to help with B12 production for the bacteria in their stomachs. Pigs and chickens are supplemented with B12 in their feed.
Yeah, this is basic knowledge. I’ve been vegetarian for 20 years and knew this 20 years ago. Very easy to supplement this. Methylcobalamin is the most easily absorbed form. I’ve been tested and am always at the high end of the scale.
That's why supplements are important. That's why eating beans is important. I have to take an iron supplement, but overall we are pretty healthy. I get that supplements get a bad name, but sometimes they can be really crucial.
I had assumed it'd been somewhat fairly common knowledge that some dietary lifestyles may need specially fortified ingredients or some supplements? At least for a couple decades.
Take care of your b12 (vitamins in general) intake if you are any of these: Vegetarians, alcoholics, being pregnant and some medications (ppi, diabetes etc, ask pharmacist instead of Google)
Well yeah…. That’s like a known thing. Vegans are pretty much always told that they have a risk of developing B12 and D deficiency due to their diet. D is something that a lot of people would be lacking in but dairy milk is regularly fortified with it for that reason. This is nothing new and can be very easily resolved with basic grocery store vitamins.
Oh look, it's that guy again who is in the meat cult posting about meat cult studies. We've known this for years. Vegans add fortified yeast to their diet. Done. Bye.
B12 is not made by plants - but it is also not made by animals. B12 is made by bacteria. B12 comes by way of animal foods through exposure to these microbes. We drink treated water and no longer have sufficient exposure.
I eat meat on the regular and I was recently diagnosed with a B12 deficiency. Like, my body doesn't absorb it properly or something. I'm in a good spot now that I take supplements every day.
I guess the problem is not so much with vegans or a vegan diet but with uneducated vegans who either a) don’t know they have to substitute b) don’t get the right amount c) don’t want to substitute by taking a pill because they are fooled by
Vegetarianism and veganism have become massively popular in the last few years, so I wouldn't be surprised if a concerning proportion of them aren't aware of the issue. It's very easy to become one now without doing your research (which was much less the case a decade or two ago).
So I haven't eaten beef or poultry directly in 26 years. Not because of any belief, I am just weird. I do however eat some pork, such as bacon on occasion and pepperoni (yes I am aware that it is often made from both beef and poultry, like I said it isn't a belief, it's a texture issue). I have done a fasting test about every 3 months for the last year or so and the only problem has been Vitamin D. I wonder about people like me who only have scant amounts of meat and how it effects us long term.
Meatrition at it again. This guy’s mission in life is to spread meat propaganda and attack vegans. Monumentally biased. So pathetic, I feel embarrassed for him.
I understand that taking a moment to verify studies via a cross-sectional analysis is always a good thing, but I seriously question why this one was done, when there are so many others that could be done and would have real impact if a discrepancy (or none) was found.
The B12 in most diets revolving around animal cruelty come from feeding the animals B12 supplements and fortified foods. You can safely cut out the animal cruelty and just take the supplements directly.
I've been vegan since 2016, vegetarian since 2011. Had my blood tests in September of this year and my B12 is off the charts. All the soy milk and many of the other products i ingest all are fortified with B12, also nooch!
All it takes is taking a quick glance at any vegan to tell its not healthy for them, not even counting all the extra money theyre tricked into spending. To think with all that privilege theyd rather pretend to be healthy rather than do anything positive
Hopefully people supplement the vitamin. The more this problem is known, the greater likelihood someone will know to supplement, so the study did good atleast
Most people, regardless of diet, should be supplementing B12 and Vitamin D (unless you live in a tropical climate and are exposed to the sun daily) on a daily basis.
I was vegan for almost a decade before finally deciding to take b12 and I got tested for it regularly and my lab levels were never low. My vitamin d on the other hand is often low even though I have been supplementing it for years
So after tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of years of humans eating meat, a no meat diet fucks with your body? Amazing! Who could ever have guessed
That is not a new finding. This has been known by, and mostly ignored by quite a lot of, vegetarians and vegans. There are extra preps for that, for more than 15 years by now.
I don't know how you can claim it's mostly ignored. There are some crunchy vegans who make baseless claims about not needing supplements, but in my experience the vast majority of vegetarians and vegans are aware of the need to supplement B12. Supplementing B12 is very cheap and easy.
Again, another study shows that humans evolved over millions of years to have a wide-variety diet and that these fads aren’t good for us. B12 is vital for DNA production and blood cell production. And if you don’t have that, you’re gonna have a hard time getting oxygen pretty soon.
Yes. Integrating eggs or dairy (if you are a vegetarian) may be a good way to increase B12 in your system. Or you can take a b12 vitamin. They are pretty easy to find.
I take b12 supplements. It is common knowledge among vegans. Also, I get blood work done yearly and my cholesterol is non existent, and my levels are great.
Well, there was already one study that said that strictly plant based diets were weakening the digestive system. So this isn't surprising. It's like not exposing your child to nuts at a young age so they don't become allergic to them.
Welcome to
I remember my doctor informing me at least 15 years back that vegetarians generally have B12 deficiency and hence am surprised to see that its being represented here as a new finding.
I was going to say "Take a B12 supplement" is like the vegan mantra
Yes it's been known for decades, and taking B vitamins isn't that expensive. At least compared to buying meat these days.
I've been veg since 1993, almost 30 years now, and it was common knowledge then.
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You mean vegans. Vegetarians can eat eggs and dairy products.
Im vegan and i specifically buy b12 pills and try to have one a day.
Yeah, I thought this was common knowledge
Look at OPs profile. They are very much pro meat consumption
Animal feed is fortified with it, or animals injected with it, so if they've got to supplement it to get it in to meat eater diets, why is it a suprise that those not eating meat would need to supplement themselves? Agriculture and pollution have killed off the natural production of it so everyone needs to be supplementing somewhere in their food chain.
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B12 and anemia especially in women.
No one said it is new, this paper is a review and meta analysis. It’s reexamining old results.
You have to take a b-12 vitamin for sure. If I had a Vegan kid, they would be getting b-12s every day.
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Vegetarians dont really have a high risk of B12 deficiency since they still eat animal products, we can store B12 very long in our bodies and we dont need that much of it.
Because this is
This is propaganda. Half of americans are b12 deficient.
It’s always good to have more and more evidence to further solidify our scientific understanding.
Twenty years ago, my vegetarian classmate in university told me he had to travel to his parents once a month for his B12 shot because his new doctor wouldn't do them. He stopped going at some point and ended up in the ICU for five weeks when he had the flu. Learned to do them himself after that.
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Yeah I mean, what did they expect? We're naturally omnivores, of course we have a deficiency when you take away a part of our natural diet.
Yeah for decades this has been known, to be careful and intentional about B12 if you’re plant-based. I’ve been a vegetarian for many decades this isn’t new. I think the only new part is people who didn’t know this obvious thing and became plant based on a trend or whim, are hitting some nutritional deficiencies and are surprised and think it’s new info. I have been hearing about this from docs and articles and nutrition 101 in health class in grade school since I was a child, and as a vegetarian child it’s a part I paid attention to.
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It's a little surprising to still see it, all the alternative milks are fortified with B12 these days so it's still plenty easy to get B12 in a plant based diet without other supplements.
If you eat plant based meats then vitamin B12 is added in the ingredients.
Just like regular meat. Everyone in the West gets their B12 from supplementation.
I think the variance in rate of instance between subgroups is what they meant by heterogeneity. Heterogeneity is the opposite of homogeneity, which (give me some grace here, it's been 6 years since my Master's degree studies in Econometrics) essentially means the variation of the model error results are not uniform, which violates one of the requirements for Ordinary Least Squares (OLS) Regression.
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People will point at the vegans, but at the same time forget that before we started putting Vitamin D in milk, we used to have problems and same for iodine in salt. Having to pay attention to one vitamin (which is now so well supplemented into foods, just like iodine and Vit. D) is not all that big of a deal.
The op
The soy milk I get is fortified with D and B12, it's pretty easy to get it in my diet because of that.
Completely agree. If you look for studies, it's been found that a fair number of meat-eaters in the northern hemisphere are vitamin D deficient anyway, even with supplementation (I meant: fortification), because we generally don't get much sun in winter, and people's average daily milk consumption has dropped off steeply over the decades (generally having been replaced with soda, which does not have Vitamin D supplemented)
The B12 is injected in meat as well iirc.
You put vitamin D in milk? US? In Europe, you don't see it (I think it is forbidden)
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Not sure id say that. I can think of maybe 5 vegans I know and one of them had a b12 issue that seriously impacted her health.
I have B12 deficiency on standard diet w no restrictions
Same, I’m omnivorous and still had B12 deficiency. Had to take 1000 mcg of B12 daily for a year just to bring my levels up to normal.
Yeah it's definitely more and more common these days. In The Game Changer they explain it's mainly due to the fact that B12 (edited: produced by bacteria) doesn't actually come from animals but from the soil that grows the plants animals consume, and how our extensive use of pesticide is killing them.
Vitamin B12 deficiency is common among several groups, especially older people and those with bariatric surgery. 40% of Western populations have low or marginal status of B12. The common recommendation is taking a vitamin B12 supplement which is literally pennies per day. Major dietetic associations (and loads of peer-reviewed studies) around the world recognize the safety and health benefits of a plant-based diet (
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Yup this is meat industry propaganda and reddit is eating it up as always.
I'm no vegan, but isn't this easily rectified by talking B12 supplements. Seems like a rather trivial issue..
Yes. I track all my minerals and vitamins using chronometer, never had an issue and I hit all my targets. I can't stand the ppl who quit veganism and bad mouth it when they weren't eating whole foods and eating store bought processed vegan nuggets instead.
I've been vegan for nearly 3 decades, and you are correct in your assessment. It really isn't an issue for us. B12 pills are sold in tons of places like supermarkets and CVS's, and are dirt cheap.
The way I understand it is that the disease formerly known as pernicious anaemia which the old books would say is simply caused by a deficiency of B12 is actually caused by an autoimmune condition where the body's production of an incredibly generically named substance "intrinsic factor" has been halted or substantially reduced. Intrinsic factor is what enables the body to use B12. So the situation is more complicated than often presented. There is an apparent mystery about populations around the world where vegetarianism is usual and consumption of dairy is not practiced. The best guess about where the missing B12 comes from appears to be charmingly called "insect residue".
The an8mal ag industry and these weird carnivore types go to great lengths to try to own the vegans by spewing bs to muddy the waters.
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Isn’t vitamin B12 the thing that you get like ~6000% your daily suggested amount in a 5 hour energy?
Yes, B12 supplements are incredibly cheap. Just about every vegan and vegetarian knows to supplement B12.
Great that you can simply take a B12 supplement which is cheap and can be bought everywhere.
4cents a day from my local chemist
We've known about this a long time. That's why almost every plant milk I'd fortified with B12 for that reason.
Serum b12 Bloodwork is not a very good indicator for overall b12 status, especially with supplementation (and fortification) what matters is that you feel good!!
Is this supposed to be novel information? Most physicians will discuss B-12 injections or B-12 supplements for their patients when they mention they are vegetarian or vegan. It is a very standard practice.
It’s supposed to mislead people just scrolling into thinking there is a new discovery that would debunk veganism. OP is called
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Thats why vegans take supplements or b12 enriched foods. This is like the first thing you learn when you go vegan.
Yet another bad faith post from meatrition
This is old news. Go find out where B12 is made and realise that animal feed is supplemented with it too. We’re all on B12 supplements.
Read the title, instantly knew who had posted it.
The moron believes fiber is bad for you. jfc
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I can't think of any of my vegan friends here in the southwestern US that aren't aware that our diet needs B-12 supplementation. Some chose a tablet form, some use B-12 fortified nutritional yeast. Pretty much a non-issue. It may be an issue for teens that take up a vegan diet alone. Often that seems to be more of an eating disorder with plants rather than a dietary or ethical choice. If your child decides to eat nothing but lettuce based salads, they can lose weight and become malnourished pretty quickly. Bt if they are eating grains, legumes, fruit, starchy veggies, cruciferous, and nuts, all they need for supplementation is B-12 and flax seed for omega 3
I'm vegan and just take a vitamin.
What do you think of cultured meat? I'm kind of conflicted, but I would like if it took over the agriculture industry.
Simple, take a supplement, don’t kill an animal.
How tf has this guy not been banned from this sub yet??
mods are basically ancaps here
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B12 vitamin supplements are so cheap.
Why don’t we just take the vitamins instead of giving the vitamins to the animals before we kill them and dismember them?
That’s why you supplement… like they do with the cows that y’all eat…
This is a good point. For anyone reading this and not getting it.
If only there were supplements to get the vitamins needed!
Started taking the B complex pill, replaced my caffeine pills with em. Makes a huge difference to someone who kinda neglects eating and all the proper things. For me anyway. Turns your wiz into neon yellow flat rockstar but energy all day.
Riboflavin piss!
Yeah I get my B complex from costco. Was like 13 bucks for a huge 500 tablet container. Great deal. I noticed the same thing with energy too
Babe wake up, new meatrition propaganda just dropped
It also should be pointed out that meat is high in b12 because livestock is supplemented cobalt. So if you are getting your b12 from eating burgers it’s due to second hand supplementation.
To clarify, cows are given cobalt to help with B12 production for the bacteria in their stomachs. Pigs and chickens are supplemented with B12 in their feed.
How is this industry bot account still not banned
So OP Is anti vegan and brought up something over a decade old. Science. Yeah okay
Note that OP is a notorious anti-vegan propagandist that has no place on
Yeah, this is basic knowledge. I’ve been vegetarian for 20 years and knew this 20 years ago. Very easy to supplement this. Methylcobalamin is the most easily absorbed form. I’ve been tested and am always at the high end of the scale.
Never forget: any headlines that read “may be” can also be read as “may not be”.
I mean, this one is true, it is just common knowledge and has been for years.
So we still allow propaganda posts on here? God I hate this subreddit.
That's why supplements are important. That's why eating beans is important. I have to take an iron supplement, but overall we are pretty healthy. I get that supplements get a bad name, but sometimes they can be really crucial.
The easy answer is to supplement B12.
What's up with this sub and the headlines either being misleading or something that's been well understood for over a decade?
Amazing that the mods here allow this one account to post so many fake studies on this one topic
I just recommend anyone that wants unbiased discussion to just block OP
People on high protein diets can be, too. You need more b12 to process the methylmalonic acid that results from high protein diets.
I had assumed it'd been somewhat fairly common knowledge that some dietary lifestyles may need specially fortified ingredients or some supplements? At least for a couple decades.
Take care of your b12 (vitamins in general) intake if you are any of these: Vegetarians, alcoholics, being pregnant and some medications (ppi, diabetes etc, ask pharmacist instead of Google)
You have to supplement B12 and Omega 3 if you’re going on a plant based diet. You shouldn’t do it if you don’t know this.
Who don't consume B12 at risk of being deficient in B12...
Anytime I see an article that starts with the word “despite” I think “this is going to be interesting”
Vegan b12 suppliments are cheap and widely available. Additionally pretty much all processed vegan food is fortified with b12.
Diet that lacks a vitamin causes risk of developing a deficiency of that vitamin, surprise
One word as an ex-vegan:
Well yeah…. That’s like a known thing. Vegans are pretty much always told that they have a risk of developing B12 and D deficiency due to their diet. D is something that a lot of people would be lacking in but dairy milk is regularly fortified with it for that reason. This is nothing new and can be very easily resolved with basic grocery store vitamins.
So take vitamin supplements. This is definitely not an argument against plant based diets which many will try to use it as.
This study should be called "A Study of the Very Obvious".
Oh look, it's that guy again who is in the meat cult posting about meat cult studies. We've known this for years. Vegans add fortified yeast to their diet. Done. Bye.
I think this sub should ban carnivore diet and anti-seed oil freaks from agenda posting.
B12 is not made by plants - but it is also not made by animals. B12 is made by bacteria. B12 comes by way of animal foods through exposure to these microbes. We drink treated water and no longer have sufficient exposure.
You can actually get vegan D3 now - it's made from lichen.
I eat meat on the regular and I was recently diagnosed with a B12 deficiency. Like, my body doesn't absorb it properly or something. I'm in a good spot now that I take supplements every day.
I was a vegan for like 5 years, I took b supplements.
“May be at risk” is the weaseliest scientific conclusion. Got a head? You may be at risk of it suddenly falling off. You never know.
I also like the “despite high heterogeneity”. In other words, each study we reviewed came to a different conclusion
It's on point from the weaseliest "contributor" to this sub.
So take a B12 supplement. This isn’t new information to vegetarians.
Me who is deficient in too many vitamins: take that vegans
I mean, I'm not vegan anymore but taking b12 supplements is pretty common since this is well known in that community
I guess the problem is not so much with vegans or a vegan diet but with uneducated vegans who either a) don’t know they have to substitute b) don’t get the right amount c) don’t want to substitute by taking a pill because they are fooled by
Vegetarianism and veganism have become massively popular in the last few years, so I wouldn't be surprised if a concerning proportion of them aren't aware of the issue. It's very easy to become one now without doing your research (which was much less the case a decade or two ago).
Very old news. Also, easy remedied. Also, its because every we eat is so very thoroughly clean where as farmed animals eat a lot of dirt.
Cool I'll take a multivitamin
I'm not a vegetarian at all yet I still developed a vit b12 deficiency and had to take IM injections alternate days and then every week
So I haven't eaten beef or poultry directly in 26 years. Not because of any belief, I am just weird. I do however eat some pork, such as bacon on occasion and pepperoni (yes I am aware that it is often made from both beef and poultry, like I said it isn't a belief, it's a texture issue). I have done a fasting test about every 3 months for the last year or so and the only problem has been Vitamin D. I wonder about people like me who only have scant amounts of meat and how it effects us long term.
In an unexpected turn of events, not getting any B12 results in a B12 deficiency.
MAY, not "are", but "may".
Take your vitamins kids
Uh yea meat is high in b12
Choccy soy milk is fortified with B12. Problem solved
This has been known forever. It's why foods are fortified and supplements exist.
Meatrition at it again. This guy’s mission in life is to spread meat propaganda and attack vegans. Monumentally biased. So pathetic, I feel embarrassed for him.
I understand that taking a moment to verify studies via a cross-sectional analysis is always a good thing, but I seriously question why this one was done, when there are so many others that could be done and would have real impact if a discrepancy (or none) was found.
Obviously omnivorous animal needs artificial supplementation of meat free diet shokka...
Even if we eat meat, we need the B12 supplement. That's why animals get B12 fortified feed or sometimes B12 injections
Hasn't been his been known since like forever? I thought pretty.kuch everyone knows to take a B12 supplement if you don't eat meat..
This isn’t new info. It’s common knowledge that if you’re vegan, you should be taking a vitamin B12 supplement or eating B12-fortified foods
The B12 in most diets revolving around animal cruelty come from feeding the animals B12 supplements and fortified foods. You can safely cut out the animal cruelty and just take the supplements directly.
How is this guy not banned yet?
Isn’t this why they supplement B12?
Did we not already know this? My Mum was filling us full of brewers years in the 1970s! Yes we were hippies. Yes I hate lentils.
Of course. This has been known for decades.
I've been vegan since 2016, vegetarian since 2011. Had my blood tests in September of this year and my B12 is off the charts. All the soy milk and many of the other products i ingest all are fortified with B12, also nooch!
People have known this for years and years
That’s why you need braggs nutritional yeasts. Just to vegan properly and you’ll be fine.
Every time I see a study like this on my front page I know it's this poster. Guy has a sickness. Just relax.
And remember everyone, lack of vitamin B can send you straight into psychosis.
It took 6 years of being vegetarian for me to form a B12 deficiency. I now take supplements. It's really not a big deal.
All it takes is taking a quick glance at any vegan to tell its not healthy for them, not even counting all the extra money theyre tricked into spending. To think with all that privilege theyd rather pretend to be healthy rather than do anything positive
Interesting anecdote i heard that's adjacent to this topic.
When you don't balance your diet you're deficient in the nutrients that aren't added? NO WAY
Can they supplement this by eating vitamin pills?
Very easily, yes. Nutritional yeast is a pretty tasty spice that adds a massive amount of B12 as well.
Hopefully people supplement the vitamin. The more this problem is known, the greater likelihood someone will know to supplement, so the study did good atleast
When I went vegan 3 years ago it was widely available information saying vegans/people on plant based diets need b12, nothing new here.
Unless the take B12 supplements. Not difficult or expensive! Basic nutrition, not new.
Most people, regardless of diet, should be supplementing B12 and Vitamin D (unless you live in a tropical climate and are exposed to the sun daily) on a daily basis.
Any vegan worth their salt is taking a b12 vitamin supplement (and giving an age appropriate one to their kids)
B12 is the only B vitamin that is singularly available from animal sources so it makes sense that those who avoid animal products would be deficient
B12 is produced by bacteria, not animals. Either we take a supplement or feed it to livestock
It’s a known fact plant based diets don’t provide sufficient vitamin B, that’s why it’s recommended to take supplements
I was vegan for almost a decade before finally deciding to take b12 and I got tested for it regularly and my lab levels were never low. My vitamin d on the other hand is often low even though I have been supplementing it for years
Nutritional yeast, people. It's been around for a long time.
another normal day of "news" in the lives of vegetarians and vegans
Solution: take a B12 supplement. There, no more need to torture animals. Mind blowing, I know
So after tens of thousands, possibly hundreds of thousands of years of humans eating meat, a no meat diet fucks with your body? Amazing! Who could ever have guessed
POV: I don't know anything about nutrition or evolution
just eat a little less meat, plenty of veggies and you're all set
That is not a new finding. This has been known by, and mostly ignored by quite a lot of, vegetarians and vegans. There are extra preps for that, for more than 15 years by now.
I don't know how you can claim it's mostly ignored. There are some crunchy vegans who make baseless claims about not needing supplements, but in my experience the vast majority of vegetarians and vegans are aware of the need to supplement B12. Supplementing B12 is very cheap and easy.
I felt like crap the ten years I was vegan. Started eating meat, lost weight and felt great!
Weird, most vegans had the opposite experience. Maybe you just didn't plan well?
Eat more dirt! Or things that live in dirt. Or eat things that live in dirt!
It’s easy, like somebody mentioned. We had to do this with other vitamins. Trade off is your healthier.
In other words, no sh!t Sherlock.
Again, another study shows that humans evolved over millions of years to have a wide-variety diet and that these fads aren’t good for us. B12 is vital for DNA production and blood cell production. And if you don’t have that, you’re gonna have a hard time getting oxygen pretty soon.
Yes. Integrating eggs or dairy (if you are a vegetarian) may be a good way to increase B12 in your system. Or you can take a b12 vitamin. They are pretty easy to find.
I take b12 supplements. It is common knowledge among vegans. Also, I get blood work done yearly and my cholesterol is non existent, and my levels are great.
All of the plant milks I drink are fortified and although I am an adult, I have never been deficient.
At least it’s not scurvy
Well, there was already one study that said that strictly plant based diets were weakening the digestive system. So this isn't surprising. It's like not exposing your child to nuts at a young age so they don't become allergic to them.