Also the confidence in these numbers aren't that high. They are asking men not to jerk off before the test and lets face it, they can't. We have men that religiously try and follow No Nut November and fail.
Not if I can help it. Yes, it is I: the prodigious preeminent cum guzzler who is stealthily stealing the world's sperm. And I won't stop until I get it all.
I forgot where I saw this but there was an analysis somewhere talking about trace amounts of pesticides/other food/agriculture additives in many US people. This very well may to be a part of this imo.
Microplastics or Teflon. This isn't new information either. There's a researcher who has been trying to get this info out for a while that nearly at a rate of 1% a year the sperm count has been dropping
Our parents generation were the smokers. It would make sense their offspring would be impacted by that. This is a statistic that has lagging indicators.
Microplastics obviously do cause a ton of harm and they're a huge problem and we 1000% should put our weight behind any effort to reduce them.... but I think that might be too easy of a scapegoat and we have a broader array of issues unfortunately. We use a million different types of chemicals from our foods to gasoline to clothing to materials in our houses (think lead paint). Most of these really do give us actual benefits that are hard to get anywhere else, but some of them inevitably will cause issues and it's so hard to pinpoint which chemicals it is because we introduce so many to so many people at around the same time
They need to check the sperm count in animals, to see if there is any drop in other species. If there is then that would be a strong indicator of environmental (eg contaminants) as the causal factor.
It probably is more likely a combo of sedentary lifestyles, weight gain, and diet. We already know these things have this effect on sperm count. Chemical exposure varies way too much.
They started putting chemicals in can liners decades ago that cause heart disease. Now people are having heart attacks in their 20s which was a thing that just did not fucking happen 40 - 50 years ago.
ye literally fuck these motherfuckers .. i cringe at all the time I swallowed Teflon flakes from my nonstick pans , handled receipts, ate microwave popcorn etc etc ... they intentionally kept me and so many others In the dark for so long .. and now even if uk what's up you're still fucked bc the shit is everywhere .. in the deepest trench there are plastic bags .. n in every blade of grass there are microplastics .. God help us all ....
I've never cared for the "mother nature" stuff. Earth doesn't have some overarching power and will to sustain itself by any means necessary and will remove whatever is fucking it up so it can continue to provide life. It's a rock in space with some weird stuff going on, that's it. Saying 'mother nature' as some external force that has a role in literally anything shifts the focus from where it should be. Earth doesn't 'care' if it becomes a lifeless rock.
The quantity of waves makes a difference too. If you have half as many swimmers per wave then double the waves. Basically, just ejaculated twice. I'm on drugs that increase my libido and reduce my refractory period. I can go twice in about 10 minutes with only minimal decrease in volume. The 3rd takes a little while longer but it's not impossible.
Don’t we like… need this to happen lol I swear I read everyday either people shitting themselves because no one is having babies or shitting themselves because we just hit 8 bil and are headed for a catastrophe due to lack of food and such. Like, which one?
I feel like too many horrible movies are becoming true. Idiocracy proven correct by derpy and malicious Trumpism, Interstellar realities from food sources dying off like the ice crab populations plummeting several thousand percent due in part to climate change, and now we get Children of Men. What is next, Solyent Green, Logan’s Run? Sigh....
Over the past 60 or 70 years. And we don't know for sure what's causing it. On top of that, people aren't having much difficulty getting pregnant; birth rates haven't decreased to match. While we should find out what's causing this, we shouldn't interpret it as an omen of the apocalypse.
Birth rates might not be declining but it would be interesting to compare length of time to achieve pregnancy. Lower sperm counts don’t automatically send someone to fertility treatments, but can certainly decrease month over month odds.
Polyester clothing is way worse than glitter. I make a point of not putting anything with polyester in the dryer, but they shed some microplastics in the washer, too.
You think glitter is the problem? Try receipt paper, styrofoam (good god, the styrofoam), fiberglass, plastic packaging on literally everything ever...
Can we PLEASE stop posting shit from The Greek Reporter??? There's a reason NO ONE ELSE is reporting on the topics they post their garbage stories about.
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the count methodology is wildly different today vs decades ago. Machines are significantly better now than they were even a couple decades ago and actual manual counting of sperm is fucking awful unless there aren't many there and they are moving much.
D. All of the above, but it's microplastics and other similar chemicals that are most worrisome; microplastic particles are even found in the Mariana trench and some are mistakenly eaten as food by creatures living there. Literally everywhere and on everything
Maybe our balls are just exhausted with the overabundance of Internet porn catering to every preference and fetish available on demand 24/7 in 4K HDR and Dolby surround sound. And free.
"Associated with low sperm count, the sixty-two percent drop refers to the number of sperm present in an average ejaculation, as published in the journal Human Reproduction Update on Tuesday."
So are you saying, the amount of times that men ejaculate may have an impact on these stats? Seems interesting given our access to porn. Not to discount the study at all because obviously some shit is fucked up.
It is fuel for conspiracy theories because it is a real problem we need to understand. Maybe it is because of something serious (chemicals, microplastics, lifestyles, other factors)
Could be a counting thing. Maybe in the past they counted very liberaly and today with modern technology the counting is more precise and therefore more conservative
Just curious - How much does the obesity epidemic contribute to this? I read somewhere that fat produces estrogen which will probably mess up your hormones.
In the future only the rich will reproduce, the peasants will have to save all their life to afford the expensive treatments, or participate in some sort of hunger games to win the honor to reproduce.
This study’s data is very skewed. People with healthy count or don’t plan to have kids are not in the data set; Most of the people testing sperm count are either having fertility issues or post vasectomy, so there’s a bias in the sample demographic.
They use it to ripen wheat. It kills the vegetation hastening the ripening of the seed bc the plant tries to reproduce as a last ditch effort. We eat it in every loaf of bread, pastry, noodle.
yep, a study found most people’s urine samples today contain pesticides, it’s in most processed food and everywhere now and Monsanto is evil for putting these pesticides everywhere when they are very harmful and carcinogenic.
I don't see this as a completely bad thing. When I was born in 1968 the world population was 3.5 billion and it's 8 billion today. Reductions to our runaway global population may help ensure there is a sustainable planet for the future.
Thoughts on diabetic meds that target GLP receptors and affect sugar digestion/absorption like Mounjaro that are showing crazy 15-30% weight loss in individuals without diabetes?
Isn’t the historical accuracy of sperm count rather wishy washy? I remember reading somewhere that the confidence in past numbers isn’t very high.
Yes. I’m sure the Greek Reporter is not the definitive resource on human reproduction.
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This stuffs actually happening. I was misinformed.
I mean there's only so much information you can get from flavor.
Yes, iirc counting methodology has changed significantly affecting accuracy
Well and as we're at it, population is still booming so technically humanity has more sperm count than ever even though slighlty less per capita!
Also the confidence in these numbers aren't that high. They are asking men not to jerk off before the test and lets face it, they can't. We have men that religiously try and follow No Nut November and fail.
Somewhere someone believes they can single handedly raise that number..
Nick Cannon. It's Nick Cannon.
Use your left hand and it’ll feel like someone else is raising your number.
They just have to come count mine. I have dozens of healthy sperms.
Not if I can help it. Yes, it is I: the prodigious preeminent cum guzzler who is stealthily stealing the world's sperm. And I won't stop until I get it all.
I'm trying my best ok.
Elon Musk enters the chat.
I haven't even counted mine recently.
I always lose count around 4 million and need to start over.
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Fun fact! Every day it gets easy to count them.
I stopped too, after the vasectomy.
There is a good chance you have at least 1.
The future is looking a little too Science Fictiony for my taste
Blatant children of men rip off
In the year 6565
Handmaids tale but not how we thought
Don’t be glum at this story of bum cum, chum.
Handmaid's tale
Stargate Aschen have infiltrated Earth covertly. At least in the show they brought some cool shit with them.
Baby Diego was a wanker.
Great movie.
Wish my state would legalize already so I can get me some strawberry cough
Pull my finger.
"but he was the youngest wanker on earth!"
Children of men is the reference in case anyone is wondering and its oddly prescient
Great reference - my first thought too
He was eating a fucking Stork.
Probably not the excess harsh chemicals we are pumping into our environment. Right.
Not to say that isn’t a problem, but the study being referenced has a huge flaw in their study design, so it may not be as severe as claimed.
I forgot where I saw this but there was an analysis somewhere talking about trace amounts of pesticides/other food/agriculture additives in many US people. This very well may to be a part of this imo.
Pfas, lead, micro plastics…. Take your pick. I just want original coke back.
yea have a Koch and a smile
More likely it's due to the raise in obesity/overweight. Excessive weight is closely correlated with lowering sperm count.
Probably just people being more unhealthy, not exercising and eating crap
Not to mention the amount of hormones in our food and water.
They list smoking as the first reason. A higher percentage of people smoked in 1973 than in 2018 by a longshot.
Per and poly fluoroalkylated substances too. PFAS.
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My college advisor was a leading researcher here in the Great Lakes studying the effects of plastic nurdles on fish populations.
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Or it's a combination of factors
Microplastics or Teflon. This isn't new information either. There's a researcher who has been trying to get this info out for a while that nearly at a rate of 1% a year the sperm count has been dropping
Microplastics yes, but diet is definitely a factor. Just because someone is thin doesn't mean they're healthy.
When I was a sperm, I had to swim uphill both ways just to get to school!
Endocrine disrupting compounds. Also lots of chemicals used in industry are never thoroughly tested because the company just says its safe enough.
I wouldn't discount smoking right away.
They also did consider sedentary lifestyle which is probably true.
Makes me think of this Ted talk
Good thing a random redditor was here to clear this all up for the experts
Still, the number would probably be lower if suddenly no one smoked and no one was obese
Our parents generation were the smokers. It would make sense their offspring would be impacted by that. This is a statistic that has lagging indicators.
Microplastics obviously do cause a ton of harm and they're a huge problem and we 1000% should put our weight behind any effort to reduce them.... but I think that might be too easy of a scapegoat and we have a broader array of issues unfortunately. We use a million different types of chemicals from our foods to gasoline to clothing to materials in our houses (think lead paint). Most of these really do give us actual benefits that are hard to get anywhere else, but some of them inevitably will cause issues and it's so hard to pinpoint which chemicals it is because we introduce so many to so many people at around the same time
Yeah, but if you know any Japanese smokers you know they don't smoke any less. 30 a day
They need to check the sperm count in animals, to see if there is any drop in other species. If there is then that would be a strong indicator of environmental (eg contaminants) as the causal factor.
It probably is more likely a combo of sedentary lifestyles, weight gain, and diet. We already know these things have this effect on sperm count. Chemical exposure varies way too much.
They started putting chemicals in can liners decades ago that cause heart disease. Now people are having heart attacks in their 20s which was a thing that just did not fucking happen 40 - 50 years ago.
ye literally fuck these motherfuckers .. i cringe at all the time I swallowed Teflon flakes from my nonstick pans , handled receipts, ate microwave popcorn etc etc ... they intentionally kept me and so many others In the dark for so long .. and now even if uk what's up you're still fucked bc the shit is everywhere .. in the deepest trench there are plastic bags .. n in every blade of grass there are microplastics .. God help us all ....
Makes you realise that Mother Nature has already somehow worked out a way to get her own back.
Children of Men
Realistically it’s from all the man made chemicals and micro plastics
Clever girl…
Bitch, you raised us.
I've never cared for the "mother nature" stuff. Earth doesn't have some overarching power and will to sustain itself by any means necessary and will remove whatever is fucking it up so it can continue to provide life. It's a rock in space with some weird stuff going on, that's it. Saying 'mother nature' as some external force that has a role in literally anything shifts the focus from where it should be. Earth doesn't 'care' if it becomes a lifeless rock.
It's not the size of the army, it's the motion of the flagella.
My babies could open a wine bottle if they backed into the cork.
The quantity of waves makes a difference too. If you have half as many swimmers per wave then double the waves. Basically, just ejaculated twice. I'm on drugs that increase my libido and reduce my refractory period. I can go twice in about 10 minutes with only minimal decrease in volume. The 3rd takes a little while longer but it's not impossible.
If this is the same study that hit
Children of Men is starting to look even more prophetic.
A catastrophic drop in birth rates is also an instigating factor in The Handmaid’s Tale.
Don’t we like… need this to happen lol I swear I read everyday either people shitting themselves because no one is having babies or shitting themselves because we just hit 8 bil and are headed for a catastrophe due to lack of food and such. Like, which one?
Handmaid's Tale is more likely considering the political landscape in America atm.
Was looking for this
I feel like too many horrible movies are becoming true. Idiocracy proven correct by derpy and malicious Trumpism, Interstellar realities from food sources dying off like the ice crab populations plummeting several thousand percent due in part to climate change, and now we get Children of Men. What is next, Solyent Green, Logan’s Run? Sigh....
Over the past 60 or 70 years. And we don't know for sure what's causing it. On top of that, people aren't having much difficulty getting pregnant; birth rates haven't decreased to match. While we should find out what's causing this, we shouldn't interpret it as an omen of the apocalypse.
And we don't even know if older data was even all that reliable, or that sperm count is directly correlated with reproductive capability.
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Birth rates might not be declining but it would be interesting to compare length of time to achieve pregnancy. Lower sperm counts don’t automatically send someone to fertility treatments, but can certainly decrease month over month odds.
How do they actually know this?
They count the sperm
Taste test
It doesn't taste like it used to.
Men donate sperm and seek help for fertility issues all the time. Not that difficult to just compile anonymous data about the samples.
Heres the research paper
It's cause your mom keeps swallowing them all
I woke the baby laughing at this comment and have no regrets
Gosh I wish hot single moms would do it for me 🥵
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NNN is causing a backup.
Microplastics are the end of us.
Could be the liquid Teflon PFOA dupont polluted earth with and is in every living things blood/body on earth.
Adds a case of plastic bottled water to the grocery pickup order for some reason
Where in the article does it discuss micro plastics?
Polyester clothing is way worse than glitter. I make a point of not putting anything with polyester in the dryer, but they shed some microplastics in the washer, too.
You think glitter is the problem? Try receipt paper, styrofoam (good god, the styrofoam), fiberglass, plastic packaging on literally everything ever...
I'm flamboyant and don't plan on having kids. It was worth it.
Children of Men (2006).
Can we PLEASE stop posting shit from The Greek Reporter??? There's a reason NO ONE ELSE is reporting on the topics they post their garbage stories about.
I typed it worldwide sperm counts into Google and got a bunch of other places reporting it. The article basically just quoted the study
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is the count methodology is wildly different today vs decades ago. Machines are significantly better now than they were even a couple decades ago and actual manual counting of sperm is fucking awful unless there aren't many there and they are moving much.
Nick Cannon is trying to singlehandedly disprove this.
So is Elon
Definitely not related to shitty diet, depression, stress, micro-plastics and forever chemicals. Right??
I'm more curious about the why. The article just mentions "drop in men's health" which is pretty vague.
D. All of the above, but it's microplastics and other similar chemicals that are most worrisome; microplastic particles are even found in the Mariana trench and some are mistakenly eaten as food by creatures living there. Literally everywhere and on everything
Because they aren’t exactly sure why. Hypothesis’s are out there but they don’t know for sure.
Maybe our balls are just exhausted with the overabundance of Internet porn catering to every preference and fetish available on demand 24/7 in 4K HDR and Dolby surround sound. And free.
In other news, beating expectations, sales of socks have exploded.
This should do wonders for the commute in 30 years
Sorry folks. I got a vasectomy. My bad.
Some good news. Overpopulation is a real problem.
Humanity just ticked over the 8 billion mark. It’s time we gave it a rest for a while.
"Associated with low sperm count, the sixty-two percent drop refers to the number of sperm present in an average ejaculation, as published in the journal Human Reproduction Update on Tuesday."
Yeah, that was my thought also. Dude’s are probably beating off on their way to getting their sperms counted.
I cannot believe this is not higher up.
So are you saying, the amount of times that men ejaculate may have an impact on these stats? Seems interesting given our access to porn. Not to discount the study at all because obviously some shit is fucked up.
Ahh yes, the Greek Reporter is where I get my 100% factual news.
Sorry, just had a vasectomy.
They should check the sock in my closet to get those numbers up..
Excellent the human depopulation plan is coming along nicely. And to think they willingly purchased and ingested the contraceptive.
That’s cause my ex is out there slurping it up.
This is fuel for conspiracy theorist.
In a week we’ll be seeing how this is a Covid vaccine’s fault. The 60 year timeline he damned.
It is fuel for conspiracy theories because it is a real problem we need to understand. Maybe it is because of something serious (chemicals, microplastics, lifestyles, other factors)
I assume the anti vacc people are straight around the corner..
I’m so convinced that nature really finds a way
It really does. The one thing we think we can manipulate but it will annihilate us in the end just like everything before us.
Could be a counting thing. Maybe in the past they counted very liberaly and today with modern technology the counting is more precise and therefore more conservative
Well... Time to watch the original Utopia and Children of Men again I guess...
gentleman that means you need to beat off 62% more than usual so that there can be more sperm in the world. Hop to it!
Honest question how many men actually get a sperm count analysis performed if they have no concerns?
There's a chance that microplastics are partly behind this decline
Wait a minute…Who measured my balls without my consent?!
sperm count may be lower, but I'm still horny af.
Mine went down by 100%. Vasectomy will do that to ya.
Thank you for your service
We have 8 billion of us. We'll be fine.
Welp. Under his eye I guess.
Just curious - How much does the obesity epidemic contribute to this? I read somewhere that fat produces estrogen which will probably mess up your hormones.
Some dude is really out there tallying cum
Yeah seriously how do they "count sperm"?
Considering the global population past the 8 billion mark recently, I guess there isn't too much to worry about.
Phew, thought it said Sperm whale count and I started to panic a bit. Less humans, that’s probably not a bad idea.
Who tf is out here calculating the amount of sperm in the globe. Its some weird kinks u guys got
Where is Jessica Hyde? IYKYK
Do we need more people on this planet?
Would you guys stop talking, I’m trying to count!
So overpopulation is gonna solve itself. Excellent.
Annoying that the article here doesn't even link to the original source. Just several tangentially related links their own articles
Well, i'ant a fan of Humans and it allows Mother Nature to recover at least a bit, so a win win in my books.
How exactly do they find this out they counting my sperm while I'm asleep?
My sperm count has dropped by 100% since my vasectomy.
It's almost like 8 billion humans is too many.
I hope my count is still 0. Vasectomy for the win!
In the future only the rich will reproduce, the peasants will have to save all their life to afford the expensive treatments, or participate in some sort of hunger games to win the honor to reproduce.
It makes sense with all the plastics in our food and sedentary lifestyle
Who had bets on microplastics?
Is there any bad news, because the human race is just cancer on earth. If we die out naturally the rest of earths creatures will celebrate!
And yet there are still too many people on this earth.
Just eat more sugared cereal and highly processed carbohydrates like the American food pyramid tells you to!
I get it. Children are cute but the last thing we need right now is more of them.
So who had Children of Men on their apocaplyse bingo card?
This study’s data is very skewed. People with healthy count or don’t plan to have kids are not in the data set; Most of the people testing sperm count are either having fertility issues or post vasectomy, so there’s a bias in the sample demographic.
Fox News says I should tan my balls.
The phone in my pocket that's constantly emitting radiation and the coat of poisons on all my food might have consequences?!?
And yet the amount of wankers has increased by 100%
So the film Children of Men could be an actual reality at some point? That’s absolutely disturbing.
The issue is - what is causing it ?
In other news, world population just topped 8 billion people.
that's one survey i did not get.
Round up pesticide on all of our food. Should be a war crime to use that shit
They use it to ripen wheat. It kills the vegetation hastening the ripening of the seed bc the plant tries to reproduce as a last ditch effort. We eat it in every loaf of bread, pastry, noodle.
yep, a study found most people’s urine samples today contain pesticides, it’s in most processed food and everywhere now and Monsanto is evil for putting these pesticides everywhere when they are very harmful and carcinogenic.
Thank God maybe now we'll stop making so many darn people.
This is a hard sell as bad news
You can find the rest in OPs mom
Who would have guessed that poisoning literally every fucking bit of food and breathe of air we ingest would have negative effects on our health?
I don't see this as a completely bad thing. When I was born in 1968 the world population was 3.5 billion and it's 8 billion today. Reductions to our runaway global population may help ensure there is a sustainable planet for the future.
Sure, right after the misery and suffering of millions due to an aging population that’s not being replaced.
An Earth with less people?? Oh god what will we do??? We only have 8 billion!!!
They must have heard about Roe v. Wade
That was my cue. ✂️
Fucking hell. This was a plot driver in The Handmaid’s Tale. The book that is, not so much the TV series.
Here before
Spoiler:
Got a source on that, chief?
Thoughts on diabetic meds that target GLP receptors and affect sugar digestion/absorption like Mounjaro that are showing crazy 15-30% weight loss in individuals without diabetes?
The world's sperm count dropped 62% , because Chuck Norris got a vasectomy.