This morning in Germany, 130 homes raided, caches of weapons seized, 52 arrested as a mix of pro-russian nuts, Qanon nuts, former AFD members, former East German military nuts, descendents of German nobility..all planned a violent coup.
Interesting that their plan revolved around destroying electric grid infrastructure. I think we're going to see this more and more in the coming years.
Interesting since over the weekend in Raleigh, North Carolina, a terrorist attack on an energy grid gunning and blowing up equipment. FBI now involved. Coincidental?
They do the former to justify their existence. They do this when the people they fund and give guns to get a little bit closer to being a problem that affects them personally.
Just like the random truck murderer is not close to establish the worldwide caliphate. The interesting part is that they were ready to take steps toward violence, not that Germany's democracy is in any kind of danger.
Right? You can make a successful coup if the military and the police are not willing to follow your orders after you take over. What did they expect to happen if they succeded in toppling the government?
I find it interesting how you can see that it's often Covid policies which have radicalized them from conservatism to fascism. What other coup has ever focused so much on a health minister?
Covid seems to have been the center of a lot of right wing conspiracy theories. The idea of covid has taken on some kind of bizarre political meaning for them.
Germany has figured out how to deal with a historical culture of toxic nationalism and right wing domestic terrorists - the US does not follow their example at its own peril.
It's been known that the Kremlin has supported far-right organizations in the West for years, but I think possibly supporting a sophisticated attempt to coup a NATO government represents a significant escalation in this regard.
It seems like it was allowed to get into the late stages because if it wasn’t, there wouldn’t be enough evidence to put these people away. If the German police was able to conduct this massive raid, they must’ve had some good intelligence
As a kaiserreich fan and a former Bismarck admirer, I am embarrassed that I defended so many kaiserboos, saying that "The German Empire wasn't worse than the British Empire", "Prussian military marches are catchy", "They are just being ironic", "Prussian military aesthetic is stylish", "If the Germans won WW1, the middle east would be far more peaceful", etc.
As a rule of thumb, every Empire in the past was good for the central authority and maybe even good for the homeland (read: good for the British isles, good for Italian peninsula, good for Turkey, etc...) and bad for their subjects/colonies, etc... So, it makes sense the right wing nationalists of- any country would have a secret and sometimes not so secret boner for the 'glory days of the Empire.'
Can someone clue me in on what the motives for this coup, were? I can understand the backdrop of January 6th over here in the US, w/ people feeling the election was "stolen" and that Brandon wasn't the true president, etc.
Looks a bit like the government busted some weirdos to look strong, apparently every single media outlet in Berlin knew of the bust weeks ago, which is generally not what you do if you move against dangerous terrorists. The leader seems to be a complete weirdo as well. Don’t expect Beer Hall 2.0 any time soon.
English article about it
Interesting that their plan revolved around destroying electric grid infrastructure. I think we're going to see this more and more in the coming years.
Interesting that they thought cutting off people's power would somehow get them to join their cause.
Those rightwing nuts are obsessed with a blackout for some reason.
wonder if there is a connection with the cuts to the train's data infrastructure a couple months ago
What if all the PSAs about a possible blackout in Germany weren't about the grid breaking because of electric heaters but because of these nuts? 😯
wasnt cutting the telephone wires and electricity step number one of every revolt for more then a hundred years?
Interesting since over the weekend in Raleigh, North Carolina, a terrorist attack on an energy grid gunning and blowing up equipment. FBI now involved. Coincidental?
Electric grid infrastructure is a very soft target compared to its importance.
"Reich citizen" = Reichsbürger, the German version of "sovereign citizens".
Thanks for the quote and translation!
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"Descendants of German nobility"
Apparently, he's a member of the
German nobility try not to be cringe challenge
Wannabe Junkers
I believe it. German history since 1800 is basically "Awesome stuff was about to happen and then the nobles ruined it"
Based eurolib Habsburgs vs cringe Junker kaiserboos.
Pulling the same shit as in 1933 but didn't work this time.
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Noblesse oblige - sounds like they're on the hook for reparations to the descendants of serfs their ancestors oppressed.
We do a little couping
Germany can have a small coup, as a treat
the fuck?
Historical Germany: Oh, not this shit again...
It’s like you can’t even plan a violent coup these days. Is the West even free anymore?
What's the opposite of three arrows cause this was somehow a pro monarch, pro fascist, and pro communist coup
Three rotten apples for the arrows to hit?
JREG be like
Q
A swastika.
This is truly the Nazbol votex of coups 🤢🤮
Horseshoe theory confirmed
In no way was this pro-communist lmao. These people would shoot socialists and communists if they had the chance.
Ah yeah, love myself some militant democracy. Suck it, traitors 😎
The fuck? The Verfassungsschutz did something different than just funding right-wing extremists and giving them weapons for once?
Maaßen watching his legacy being destroyed ðŸ˜
They do the former to justify their existence. They do this when the people they fund and give guns to get a little bit closer to being a problem that affects them personally.
Not the right kind of right wing extremists. These were Kaiserboos, not Neo Nazis.
Don't believe anything until the Kremlin denies it.
It’s not like they were even close to doing an actual coup, but this nonetheless interesting.
Just like the random truck murderer is not close to establish the worldwide caliphate. The interesting part is that they were ready to take steps toward violence, not that Germany's democracy is in any kind of danger.
Right? You can make a successful coup if the military and the police are not willing to follow your orders after you take over. What did they expect to happen if they succeded in toppling the government?
Magic Goolsball
Pinged members of EUROPE group.
I find it interesting how you can see that it's often Covid policies which have radicalized them from conservatism to fascism. What other coup has ever focused so much on a health minister?
But restrictions are over, what the fuck is wrong with these degenerates?
Covid seems to have been the center of a lot of right wing conspiracy theories. The idea of covid has taken on some kind of bizarre political meaning for them.
!ping EXTREMISM
Pinged members of EXTREMISM group.
Nazis are always pathetic losers until, quite suddenly, they aren't.
Wrong reich. These lunatics wanted the Second Reich back, not the third...
Germany has figured out how to deal with a historical culture of toxic nationalism and right wing domestic terrorists - the US does not follow their example at its own peril.
I'd wish. German police, military and intelligence services are swarming with Nazis. It has always been a problem.
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Not even former AfD members. She still is member, she just isn't a representative anymore
She is member of the federal-level arbitration committee of the AfD.
!ping GER
Pinged members of GER group.
Is this the episode in which the villains team up to beat the hero? If not, why didn’t they success initially like the trope dictates?
It's been known that the Kremlin has supported far-right organizations in the West for years, but I think possibly supporting a sophisticated attempt to coup a NATO government represents a significant escalation in this regard.
They had absolutely no chance of successfully couping. Their danger was in possible terrorism.
Descendants of German Nobility...
Isn't this a big event? Like, seems like this plot was in the late stages, right?
It seems like it was allowed to get into the late stages because if it wasn’t, there wouldn’t be enough evidence to put these people away. If the German police was able to conduct this massive raid, they must’ve had some good intelligence
Pinged members of FOREIGN-POLICY group.
Stashing former East German weapons and being an East German military nut are different things. No one wanted to bring back the DDR
Strange bedfellows and etc.
when are we going to do the same in the US? Or would that be considered too "partisan" here?
lmao deep state got 'em again
As a kaiserreich fan and a former Bismarck admirer, I am embarrassed that I defended so many kaiserboos, saying that "The German Empire wasn't worse than the British Empire", "Prussian military marches are catchy", "They are just being ironic", "Prussian military aesthetic is stylish", "If the Germans won WW1, the middle east would be far more peaceful", etc.
As a rule of thumb, every Empire in the past was good for the central authority and maybe even good for the homeland (read: good for the British isles, good for Italian peninsula, good for Turkey, etc...) and bad for their subjects/colonies, etc... So, it makes sense the right wing nationalists of- any country would have a secret and sometimes not so secret boner for the 'glory days of the Empire.'
Can someone clue me in on what the motives for this coup, were? I can understand the backdrop of January 6th over here in the US, w/ people feeling the election was "stolen" and that Brandon wasn't the true president, etc.
They seem to be particularly angry about Covid policies and support to Ukraine. But it's probably too soon to have more information on their motives.
Looks a bit like the government busted some weirdos to look strong, apparently every single media outlet in Berlin knew of the bust weeks ago, which is generally not what you do if you move against dangerous terrorists. The leader seems to be a complete weirdo as well. Don’t expect Beer Hall 2.0 any time soon.
Hmm, more KSK members. I think Germany may need to take another hard, long look at that group and see if it’s worth keeping around.
they are
the nobility must be destroyed