Wizards should have let him go in all honesty or traded him beforehand. He just wanted the bag to then complain about wanting to win as is the golden standard in the modern NBA.
I was so mad when the Wizards didn't trade Beal before the last trade deadline. It meant that they were either going to lose him for nothing or sign him to a super max. And I cannot emphasize enough that Beal is NOT a super max player.
The only thing surprising about this is that it's happening so quickly. He's less than two months into the contract and he's already talking shit? I expected this around year 3 or 4 where he's on his way out and wants to generate some attention.
There’s maybe 10 players in this league worth super max, and another 10 that at least make sense. Beal isn’t in either of those list. I personally don’t get the appeal of Beal. He’s has some great statistical seasons (points-wise, at least), and some winning seasons when the team around him was really good. I think supermax is for a player that can get you to the playoffs without bringing in another superstar. The team around him now should be good enough to make the playoffs, and they should definitely make the play-in. If they don’t… they’re going to have to figure something out in Washington.
Beal, who I genuinely like, is almost a dated archetype in 2022 at his contract level. We’re seeing more shooting and scoring at all 5 positions from much more manageable contracts. The future is bleak for high volume shooting, low defensive effort, poor playmaking guards and wings imo. The likes of Beal, Lavine etc are really bottom tier max contract impact
Only the Wizards could offer him a 5 year deal with 8% raises instead of 4 years with 5% raises, he could have asked for a trade before his contract was up so his new team would have his Bird rights
I wonder what the trade off would be for him to buyout part of his contract and get paid less, but then get traded to a team where he might actually matter. At this point, in 10 years, basically no one will know who he is, or really should care about who he is. But if he went to a contender and win as the #1 or #2 option, dude might be a few good seasons away from being in the HOF.
Their entire front office staff needs to be fired right now and be black listed from the NBA. If they want to still be on a bball team they can go to India's or Phillipine's league
I don't believe him. He has chosen money every time throughout his career and there's nothing wrong with that, but be a man and live with the consequences of your decisions.
I watched the clip. To his point, isn't that the point of free agency? To explore your options, and make the best decision for yourself. How is it weird that he's being open about the fact that resigning with the Wizards was the best decision for himself? He even mentioned the talent of KP/Kuzma, while praising the potential of Kispert/Rui/Deni. Idk why this is an issue all of a sudden to be honest, most players have a similar thought process. Who has ever turned down a supermax deal anyway?
Malcontent is a huge stretch. He praises his teammates and speaks honestly about alternatives that weren't there for him. He's saying what we all know- there wasn't an elite team with the space to pay him last summer. So he stayed and got paid.
Honestly for a guy like Beal, no one ever cared about whether he would a chip or not. So it makes no sense to take such a massive pay cut at a chance to win a chip.
Another situation that just makes me count our blessings in Milwaukee. How often does the best player in the league love the small city market he was drafted too.
Knew this was gonna happen. “I’m a wizard I love it here” then starts losing again and starts complaining. Guy is a complete idiot and I’m sick of this super rich clown complain every season
To choose between being genuinely trash for a year with a great draft class, or sign the malcontent scorer who’s due to be paid the most in the nba for 5 years
“There were no teams in the market, free agency-wise. I’m just being frank. There was nowhere else for me to go where I can be like, ‘Oh, I can go win.’”
That's already how it works. He has a no trade clause, meaning he gets to choose where he will be traded. The problem is there's no good candidates willing to absorb his contract.
Call his bluff now? There's nothing to win and everything to lose for the Wizards. You're still going to pay his exhoribtant salary for the next 5 seasons. You get nothing in return, not even a pick. Heck, even trading for expiring contracts would be better since that means you get cap space at the end of the season.
He's mentioned this on Redick's podcast but he also does say he truly believes he can win in DC. He also has a no-trade clause so I think he was happy with what DC offered him
This quote says more about him as a player and why no one would offer him anything close to what he got than him being disgruntled about being washington. He needs to look inwards on why nobody else wanted him
I just watched the podcast, and you are a shit starter. He is fine where he is, and was just being real. He did not say if there was a better offer he would leave, he just said there was no offer from contender teams so there was no consideration to leave Washington.
But that's like saying "I didn't leave my company because every other competing company said that I wasn't good enough to work for them. Believe me, I tried. I'm posting on LinkedIn, reaching out to recruiters, attending networking workshops, I'm doing it all. Yet, every other competing company has made it clear that I'm just not good at my job, so they won't hire me!"
Every game I see, the less the Wizards need Beal. It should have been clear when the Westbrook/Beal pairing didn't even accomplish much. All Beal does is do his little iso's and take a stop and pop jumper off a drive. They could get the same results with someone like Jalen Green, who is actually better at working with a team and can get others involved, along with being better at defense. The wizards would also save so much money. I don't get what's so special about Beal that deserves 50M a year. Especially with that level of inconsistency.
Interestingly I saw someone mention Dame. Not sure if its because of the Media, but both Beal and Lillard took the bag, but whereas Dame wants to stay and build, we keep hearing Beal complain all the time. Thoughts?
I wonder what the highest contract a "winning" (and by winning I mean a contender now or a contender by adding Beal) team would even offer him. I'm assuming half the dollar amount at the very least
He's a very good player, but how many of you consider him elite? Destined to be another Carmelo Anthony, maybe? Excellent scorer attached at the hip to underachieving teams.
Players who prioritize winning won't seek top dollar, because winning teams are already paying top dollar for other players...that's why they're winning. What this should read is "Beals wants $$$ but play for a team who don't really need his services"
This post is a massive overreaction and that "quote" you have there is not a quote, but a paraphrasing of a quote that makes it sound way worse than what he actually said. Quit stirring the pot
A known loser and he's cool with being a loser he got paid for it. Dame is headed the same route but his team has more promise then the bum ass wizards.
He’ll end up in Miami this summer. Herro and another contract plus Jovic and picks would probably be the construction. I don’t see Ted “Mediocrity Daddy” Leonsis being willing to trade Beal for 2 Lakers picks five and seven years from now. Not to mention the Lakers would still have to have contracts on their books for next year to have money to send out in a hypothetical trade. They don’t have enough cap space next year to trade for Beal straight up.
Beal is stuck in the top 15-25 player range, doomed to eternal mediocrity unless he breaks that barrier or takes a massive paycut. The reality is no team can win when they spend 30% or more of their payroll on a player not in the top 10.
So WHAT? Should've got tha HECK OUTTA that garbage pathetic team money is everything but what about ur legacy championships matter should've went to tha BUCKS or BOSTON...PERIOD!!! HE WILL NEVER WIN A CHIP IN DC..NEVER!! he will retire without a championships trophy🏆💯. WHAT IF???
What a tool. Many teams would have created the space if he told the Wizards he was out. Many teams would have offered a haul in a S&T. He was in some loyal max shit. And now that he’s got the bag he’s trying to weird his way out smh
I hate my life as a wizards fan, especially since Beal is an anti-vaxxer, a horrible leader, awful in clutch time, and hasn’t been a good 3pt shooter in years it feels like
This is disheartening to hear. He does a lot of great things for the DMV, like his work for Ron Brown high school, that I thought he also stayed because he loved it here.
This weird situation won't end. Wizards are stuck with him for the next half decade.
The No trade clause makes no sense to me
Has there ever been an All-star level player who spent a decade+ on 1 team, didn't force his way out, and still isn't loved by that franchise?
Meanwhile he shits the bed in the clutch every end of game while Kuz shows the clutch gene.
They literally played so much better without him this year its actually sad
They did it to themselves, baffling at the time when he was declining.
Don't I fucking know it 😫🔫
Fucking untradable mfcker somehow managed to finess the literal best contract possible, no trade clause trade kicker supermax
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Tbf, mavs can give wizards an out next offseason... If they want it
It’s pretty toxic at this point
I mean it'd be hard for me to walk away from 270 million fucking dollars
What's the exchange rate of fucking dollars to virgin dollars
but you can both have the money and winning
That is one hell of a statement lol. Rarely seen anything like that.
Dudes just out here getting 50 mil a year to say how they had no other options so they’re stuck in this position lol
Might as well say it now, he’s locked in already. The Wizards aren’t exactly well ran, are they?
He’s like a chronic illness that has befallen the franchise.
I believe him. I don't think anyone offered him the money he wanted and the winning situation.
This is like insulting to everyone involved in the situation lol.
Yea. There were no comparable offers from a winning team because that cantract is absurd, Bradley.
Wizards should have let him go in all honesty or traded him beforehand. He just wanted the bag to then complain about wanting to win as is the golden standard in the modern NBA.
Yes
I was so mad when the Wizards didn't trade Beal before the last trade deadline. It meant that they were either going to lose him for nothing or sign him to a super max. And I cannot emphasize enough that Beal is NOT a super max player.
I don’t even think he cares about winning honestly
Sell tickets
No way, he’s still an asset.
Its weird it wasn't more criticized then, I saw plenty of people defending this signing.
Why should they have just let him go? What are these small markets going to do if they keep letting their star players go? It’s what ruins the league.
Agreed. Being a “maybe play in team” is NBA purgatory. Not good enough to compete for a chip. Not bad enough for a game changing draft pick.
The only thing surprising about this is that it's happening so quickly. He's less than two months into the contract and he's already talking shit? I expected this around year 3 or 4 where he's on his way out and wants to generate some attention.
That's cuz winning teams don't give players like Beal super maxes.
Also more importantly, the winning teams come free agency time just like straight up don’t have near max money lying around.
There’s maybe 10 players in this league worth super max, and another 10 that at least make sense. Beal isn’t in either of those list. I personally don’t get the appeal of Beal. He’s has some great statistical seasons (points-wise, at least), and some winning seasons when the team around him was really good. I think supermax is for a player that can get you to the playoffs without bringing in another superstar. The team around him now should be good enough to make the playoffs, and they should definitely make the play-in. If they don’t… they’re going to have to figure something out in Washington.
Beal is the type of max guy you sign and trade for. Teams rarely have max slots now anyways and the ones that do are tanking
"This is the only team that would pay me WAY more than im worth"
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Boom, this is it.
this era of guys taking the overpay then wondering why they are hard to move is hilarious
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I also blame fans and media a little. They celebrate players getting the bag even when they are massively overpaid...just for them to complain after.
Money > Moving
Could you imagine if the Hornets kept Kemba?
That’s not an applicable statement here. He was a free agent.
That's not what's happening tho?
Of the top 10 highest paid players in the league, I'd say 6 or 7 of those contracts are just bad.
Beal, who I genuinely like, is almost a dated archetype in 2022 at his contract level. We’re seeing more shooting and scoring at all 5 positions from much more manageable contracts. The future is bleak for high volume shooting, low defensive effort, poor playmaking guards and wings imo. The likes of Beal, Lavine etc are really bottom tier max contract impact
That’s my biggest fear because that’s exactly the type of player that Jalen green is projected to be
Lavine has shown the ability to shoot 3s a lot better than Beal
The DLo Special
Only the Wizards could offer him a 5 year deal with 8% raises instead of 4 years with 5% raises, he could have asked for a trade before his contract was up so his new team would have his Bird rights
I wonder what the trade off would be for him to buyout part of his contract and get paid less, but then get traded to a team where he might actually matter. At this point, in 10 years, basically no one will know who he is, or really should care about who he is. But if he went to a contender and win as the #1 or #2 option, dude might be a few good seasons away from being in the HOF.
Shame Piers Morgan didn't interview him
AND the Wizards still gave him a no trade clause. They were bidding against nobody. Absolute incompetence. I’m sorry Wizards fans.
Their owner is just interested in a middling team and making extra money from other teams through the CBA
Their entire front office staff needs to be fired right now and be black listed from the NBA. If they want to still be on a bball team they can go to India's or Phillipine's league
That's ok, we knew it was a bad deal. I love Beal but I'd much rather blow up the team and do a rebuild.
Yeah we fucked up
Most depressing team in the league
Wizards are going to go into 3 decades of overpaying guards
I feel like he is saying this because Wizards are doing ok this year but his role isn’t as big as he wants. Baby.
The irony of him saying this to Gil, another oft injured, unhappy guy is almost too much
We also got that 1st round bust Davis too
Unless you have Steph, LeBron or Giannis, stop paying these stupid contracts.
not even lebron anymore. Giannis, Steph, Jokic, Luka.
Throw Luka there too
I don't believe him. He has chosen money every time throughout his career and there's nothing wrong with that, but be a man and live with the consequences of your decisions.
Where did he say this
He said it in the “no chill podcast”
https://youtu.be/FV2oU6KKC1A
Listen to the audio, op is painting this in an isolated light. I think everything Beal said makes sense in the context of how he’s saying it.
I don't think you should say this lol, especially as "supposed to be a leader" of the team
Eh it’s the wizards, they hardly count as a team
https://twitter.com/thenbacentral/status/1599427588899733504?s=46&t=EKS92e0k6pthOL-ynzuUkw
I watched the clip. To his point, isn't that the point of free agency? To explore your options, and make the best decision for yourself. How is it weird that he's being open about the fact that resigning with the Wizards was the best decision for himself? He even mentioned the talent of KP/Kuzma, while praising the potential of Kispert/Rui/Deni. Idk why this is an issue all of a sudden to be honest, most players have a similar thought process. Who has ever turned down a supermax deal anyway?
Malcontent is a huge stretch. He praises his teammates and speaks honestly about alternatives that weren't there for him. He's saying what we all know- there wasn't an elite team with the space to pay him last summer. So he stayed and got paid.
Yeah that's more it. He does, imo, seem to generally enjoy it here..but he would have left in a heartbeat if the deal was there.
I know he didn’t mean it like that, but this is so tone deaf. Like telling your wife “I wanted to marry an actress, but then you came along so…”
It's much worse than that tbh it's like saying "But no actress wanted me so here you are" lmao
You're only with your wife on a 5 year contract?
I have no issue with the statement.
Honestly for a guy like Beal, no one ever cared about whether he would a chip or not. So it makes no sense to take such a massive pay cut at a chance to win a chip.
Man that’s an interesting thought for legacy. Though I would think any player would like to win one regardless.
Bradley “all about the Benjamins” Beal
And they gave him multiple fucking cherries on top of the max deal.
That’s a lie, teams would want you, no winning team would pay you 40 million a year because then they would be… the Wizards
I mean that’s what he said tho.
Lol wow. Well at least now we don’t have to listen to people go on about his loyalty anymore.
+1 to fan relations
Lol. Must be nice to have your last resort for employment pay you 50 mil a year.
Beal: i want the super max
beal the one star i can see getting moved to the lakers for them picks
Another situation that just makes me count our blessings in Milwaukee. How often does the best player in the league love the small city market he was drafted too.
Giannis is foreign which I think played a big factor in his willingness to embrace the city he was drafted in.
He's being real. So props to that.
He’s not being real bro.
Knew this was gonna happen. “I’m a wizard I love it here” then starts losing again and starts complaining. Guy is a complete idiot and I’m sick of this super rich clown complain every season
To choose between being genuinely trash for a year with a great draft class, or sign the malcontent scorer who’s due to be paid the most in the nba for 5 years
The FO have been astute enough to get off John Wall and Russ' deals. Only to give Beal a supermax. Wild.
Because everyone knows you're an empty stats guy. No one was ever going to give him a max outside of Washington
why say this? when you have all the money and the no-trade, i guess it doesn't matter to you at all
Well Beal definitely isn't stressing for money but of course he is going to sign that massive deal AND talk shit on this own team at the same time.
“There were no teams in the market, free agency-wise. I’m just being frank. There was nowhere else for me to go where I can be like, ‘Oh, I can go win.’”
That's still really bad
That’s not any less inflammatory than my paraphrase.
OP shouldn't have paraphrased unnecessarily but his paraphrasing is mostly comparable.
If I’m the wizards I’d call his bluff. Make a public announcement that if he can find a deal more to his liking you’ll release him. See what happens.
That's already how it works. He has a no trade clause, meaning he gets to choose where he will be traded. The problem is there's no good candidates willing to absorb his contract.
Call his bluff now? There's nothing to win and everything to lose for the Wizards. You're still going to pay his exhoribtant salary for the next 5 seasons. You get nothing in return, not even a pick. Heck, even trading for expiring contracts would be better since that means you get cap space at the end of the season.
He’s the fourth highest paid player OF ALL TIME. Ahead of Kobe, KG, et all and he’s complaining???
He wasn’t complaining. Besides once you gain enough money, you start caring about different things.
He is straight lying lmao 🤣
He's mentioned this on Redick's podcast but he also does say he truly believes he can win in DC. He also has a no-trade clause so I think he was happy with what DC offered him
No disrespect meant, what winning team can trade for someone like Beal to push for a championship?
I hate being a wizards fan.
I can think of a few other reasons.
I don’t buy that. He wanted the money. He doesn’t care about winning. He’s not worth the contract and not an elite or super star.
If you’re on a super max you should have an absolute no-trade clause (meaning you’re legally not allowed to be traded period).
Is this not one of the craziest quotes we’ve heard from an active player?? How do you go into the building tomorrow after saying this 😩
Beal, it’s ok you can admit you wanted the payday
fuck
This quote says more about him as a player and why no one would offer him anything close to what he got than him being disgruntled about being washington. He needs to look inwards on why nobody else wanted him
No winning team can afford him.
this is going badly
Someone must've been talking mad shit to him for him to say that
Idk like that sucks man but I don't feel bad for you making 200 million dollars lmao
I just watched the podcast, and you are a shit starter. He is fine where he is, and was just being real. He did not say if there was a better offer he would leave, he just said there was no offer from contender teams so there was no consideration to leave Washington.
OsTrigonum
Oh please, How about the, like you know, the mega contract?
I would have been happy to have him at a 30ish a year cost
So the wizards just gave him that big ass contract on their own with absolutely nobody driving up the price? That's...certainly a choice
But that's like saying "I didn't leave my company because every other competing company said that I wasn't good enough to work for them. Believe me, I tried. I'm posting on LinkedIn, reaching out to recruiters, attending networking workshops, I'm doing it all. Yet, every other competing company has made it clear that I'm just not good at my job, so they won't hire me!"
Beal is delusional
Every game I see, the less the Wizards need Beal. It should have been clear when the Westbrook/Beal pairing didn't even accomplish much. All Beal does is do his little iso's and take a stop and pop jumper off a drive. They could get the same results with someone like Jalen Green, who is actually better at working with a team and can get others involved, along with being better at defense. The wizards would also save so much money. I don't get what's so special about Beal that deserves 50M a year. Especially with that level of inconsistency.
Interestingly I saw someone mention Dame. Not sure if its because of the Media, but both Beal and Lillard took the bag, but whereas Dame wants to stay and build, we keep hearing Beal complain all the time. Thoughts?
I’ll never criticize dame because he’s a good soldier.
dang. i thought he would retire a wizard.
I wonder what the highest contract a "winning" (and by winning I mean a contender now or a contender by adding Beal) team would even offer him. I'm assuming half the dollar amount at the very least
Why did BRADLEY BEAL get a no trade clause and a trade kicker?
What a shock. So glad he really wanted to be here (not).
Big three of Beal, KP, Kuzma? Who doesn’t lay the mortgage payment on title odds?
That took 1 whole month.
No winning team would be a winning team offering Beal what he thinks he is worth
There’s 250 million reasons why he didn’t leave. Nobody’s passing that up not even for a winning team.
Mavericks keeps getting shifted on non stop
He's a very good player, but how many of you consider him elite? Destined to be another Carmelo Anthony, maybe? Excellent scorer attached at the hip to underachieving teams.
I mean yeah its not a good thing to say, but it was clear that his talent was wasted in DC for many years.
Weird flex
It's because he's not worth a max... He's not a giannis or jokic level player.
Nope... Just say u like rhe Money... Given to you... Stay on wizards...
Wizard's management had some magic mushrooms when they signed this shit.
For that much money, aren't they expecting him to carry the team? Right?
Yeah bc no team who's building a winning team would offer you that much money. Beal chooses money over winning period
I say this as a Wizards fan, F Beal
Super maxes are a failure
We didn't even get to Christmas before his almost trade demands started.
Biggest pile of bullshit. Just say you weren’t going to get the contract you got from the Wiz, from some other team.
I love this.
Players who prioritize winning won't seek top dollar, because winning teams are already paying top dollar for other players...that's why they're winning. What this should read is "Beals wants $$$ but play for a team who don't really need his services"
Beal to the Lakers. For west brick+ 2 picks
This post is a massive overreaction and that "quote" you have there is not a quote, but a paraphrasing of a quote that makes it sound way worse than what he actually said. Quit stirring the pot
I tried to give the exact quote but
"The hotter guys didn't want me so I settled with the ugly ass mfer that'll buy me everything I want." same vibe.
A known loser and he's cool with being a loser he got paid for it. Dame is headed the same route but his team has more promise then the bum ass wizards.
He’ll end up in Miami this summer. Herro and another contract plus Jovic and picks would probably be the construction. I don’t see Ted “Mediocrity Daddy” Leonsis being willing to trade Beal for 2 Lakers picks five and seven years from now. Not to mention the Lakers would still have to have contracts on their books for next year to have money to send out in a hypothetical trade. They don’t have enough cap space next year to trade for Beal straight up.
Kinda crazy that a dude can get severely overpaid in DC and then end up in a sexy free agent destination like Miami or LA.
Beal is stuck in the top 15-25 player range, doomed to eternal mediocrity unless he breaks that barrier or takes a massive paycut. The reality is no team can win when they spend 30% or more of their payroll on a player not in the top 10.
Pretty sure that's the same reason Michael Jordan became a GM on the Wizards and played for the Wizards.
right before that he praises the other guys on his team and says he's excited to work with them and improve
Honestly forgot about this dude
Are the Wizards the only organization in the league that doesn’t care about winning a title?
76ers are gonna trade Maxey+Tobias for him book it.
Please no. Maxey already better
Maybe two years ago we would’ve. Maxey isn’t getting moved for less than KD
Can we get the exact quote and not you paraphrasing?
I tried to give the exact quote but
So WHAT? Should've got tha HECK OUTTA that garbage pathetic team money is everything but what about ur legacy championships matter should've went to tha BUCKS or BOSTON...PERIOD!!! HE WILL NEVER WIN A CHIP IN DC..NEVER!! he will retire without a championships trophy🏆💯. WHAT IF???
What a tool. Many teams would have created the space if he told the Wizards he was out. Many teams would have offered a haul in a S&T. He was in some loyal max shit. And now that he’s got the bag he’s trying to weird his way out smh
Hate guys doing this.
The only bigger loser than Beal is the Wizards because they signed him to one of the worst contracts in history.
I mean it's true. I don't really have an issue with him saying this just because it'll hurt a couple people's feelings.
I hate my life as a wizards fan, especially since Beal is an anti-vaxxer, a horrible leader, awful in clutch time, and hasn’t been a good 3pt shooter in years it feels like
John wall 2.0
Can he even be traded this season? (Assuming he waives the NTC)
This is disheartening to hear. He does a lot of great things for the DMV, like his work for Ron Brown high school, that I thought he also stayed because he loved it here.
Surely that would inspire some self-reflection that no winning team wanted him?
Isn’t he about to become the wizards all time leading scorer? It’s a weird situation but that contract might look reasonable as the cap jumps up
He's just answering a question lmao. Why are people so up in arms about this?
How can you expect 250 million in Miami or LA
It’s funny how fans seemingly praise team loyalty then clown them for staying in losing teams forever.
why did the wizards overpay then???????????