Best to get a tiny little 20 year old to play a child. You gotta provide schooling and "breaks" and limited shooting hours for children. Can be a real budget breaker for low budget indie productions like this.
It genuinely brings me endless joy that, amidst all the world-ending, epic stakes of this trailer, the top comment relates to Ruben Rabasa’s single line.
I hope it's more than just coincidence that they're using "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" on a scene featuring well-known Wizard of Oz buff Gregg Turkington.
My guess, probably less spacey and more terrestrial. I will say, GoTG is probably one of the strongest MCU movies. Remove all the MCU stuff, and you still have a really fun scifi movie.
100%. I'll always point to that movie as the paradigm shift for Marvel. People can shit on the movies all they want but I'm glad they've put out such grandiose movies with settings that come straight out of the comics and at least aren't depressing like DC.
DC - “Okay, bear with us. It’s silly but we will add realism. It’s comic book related but we swear you can see past that if you watch the movie. We’re super grounded. Just hang in there, it will be worth it. It’s dark and gritty… so kind of realistic right?”
Like No Way Home I see the trailer and think "there's no way the inciting incident can be that stupid in context, surely in the movie it will make sense?" and, i imagine like No Way Home, I will be wrong.
Was going to say the same thing... it's just like in the No Way Home trailer... it looks like the whole incident that kicks off the plot in this movie could've easily been avoided if people just talked for 30sec about what they're doing and the potential pitfalls before unleashing some insanely powerful technology / spell with unknown side effects.
Add to that the fact that the daughter has built a communication array for the quantum realm but doesn't even recognize the quantum realm when she sees it even though her entire family has been there and had to have taught her a number of things about the quantum realm in order for her to create that device.
I had to stop watching Cobra Kai because literally every single problem in the show was caused by poor communication skills. Characters would even be given the chance to clear things up and they'd just skip around it with statements like "I don't need to explain myself" or "You wouldn't believe me anyways" and they'd just continue to fight. It's one thing if it happens once or twice, but literally every single conflict in the show relied on that trope.
Kang having scars matching his face mask is a nice touch. Would have liked to have see more of the mask in the trailer, but the outfit looks great in general.
Gregg was in Ant Man and the Wasp, as was Tim Heidecker ... Peyton Reed himself was a director who cut his teeth doing Mr. Show in the 90s. The comedy ties run deep.
Crazy he’d associate with this series again considering how hard the first one bombed. It only got one sad lonely bag of popcorn, the lowest rated film in On Cinema history
At the beginning of the trailer i was thinking wow first time marvel has actually shot on real world locations, they’re finally giving their VFX people a break, and then the rest of the trailer had me feeling bad for all of the VFX teams. looks like the whole thing was shot on a green screen studio
On the one hand yes, but on the other hand, once visual fx jump into total crazy pants land it can get easier because viewers have no frame of reference. I imagine something like Dr. Strange is the most nightmare inducing because you have to have a photorealistic building that's also fractally bending itself into other photorealistic buildings, so 100% CGI but still needs to look like something that people have a perfect frame of reference for.
This was unfortunately one of my first thoughts too. After seeing posts about how mistreated and overworked they are, revisions last minute and more, its upsetting to see sadly.
Is Conan O'Brien still developing his own talk show on HBO Max? I hope that gets done by the time the movie comes out. It just doesn't feel the same when Paul Rudd doesn't show up to his talk show and promote his movies.
Hey Janet, here's an idea. Don't tell the super-excited child to turn off the REALITY ENDANGERING DEVICE, maybe just hit the off button yourself or if you don't know where that is, smash a fuse or trip a breaker. DO SOMETHING.
Presumably she was able to live so long in the Quantum Realm by stealing bits from the city. She knew about something hiding there that shouldn't be getting a signal (Kang, I'm guessing), which meant she run-ins with them before, but she was found alone, which means there was a falling out.
Kinda bummed they took the MODOK scene out of this; I do like that this seems a little more elevated in terms of tone compared to previous Ant Man films.
Probably because Newton is a fairly popular young actress who has been in more shows and movies than Fuhrmann, so they wanted an actress with more experience and potentially more talent.
I just see that as a granny haircut, but yeah it ain't good. There's the part though, that Charlize Theron set the horrible standards with her Furious roles and this isn't even close to as bad as "simple Jack".
The trailer is giving me Fantastic Four plot vibes in the best way possible. We have this science "family" doing science things, weird things happen, EXPLORATION AND ADVENTURE!
I've enjoyed the Ant Man movies, but the trope of "i've never told you" is getting REALLY annoying. They didn't show Janet interacting with Scott in the quantum realm during the first movie, and now Janet not saying anything about a literal universe within the quantum realm.
I'm going to give the movie the benefit of the doubt that it isn't literally "Ya i never told you the single most amazing and unbelievable thing about the quantum realm, the thing you've spent your whole life working on". And if it is, she better have an amazing reason why.
Okay, time to speculate on Bill Murray's character. My money is on another Elder of the Universe. The Collector and The Grandmaster are two of these guys we've seen already. There are at least five major ones and I can see Murray playing of these pompous ancient aliens.
Well, the first one made sense, given the time jump and how kids look pretty distinctly older around puberty. But this second change is more similarly-aged recast the Endgame one, so it's a bit more likely to raise the question of "why the recast."
Reading comics as a young kid and seeing kang on screen surprises me as much as seeing thanos fighting spider man on screen. Just things I’d never thought I’d see and it’s just as shocking actually seeing it. Majors looks amazing and captivating as kang. Can’t wait.
To think 20 years ago there were like 2 viable hero franchises that kept it mostly safe alongside a sea of absolutely abysmal takes on heroes and now we are getting massive budget hero movies.
Ant man is gonna die and people are gonna riot. Word on the street is Rudd wants to bow out and let his kid take over. Man if that happens... If I ever have to see Paul die ever on screen i'mma cry . . . . . And that movie about cavemen with Jack Black doesn't count cause it was trash lol.
If you’re going to watch any shows, watch Loki. Out of all the shows, it’s easily the most important of the bunch for the rest of the MCU going forward
I don't know, at this point, the constant introduction of rather huge and remarkable story elements, that somehow everyone on Earth happened to be oblivious towards, until movie X, moreso after Phase Whatever and Thanos, gets a little stale.
Hmmm Spider-Man: NWH, Doctor Strange in the MOM, Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel, you could argue Eternals with Sprite. looks like Black Panther: WF is going to have this plot point too with Ironheart
I really like Ant-man and generally enjoy marvel movies. but the music, color choice, plot… it’s all starting to look the same. Like this could be another Guardians or Thor movie. Still going to watch it, but just don’t have the excitement like i used to.
Poor Janet can't catch a break. Stuck in Quantum realm, blipped, now back to Quantum realm.
At least it turns out she actually had a life in the Quantum Realm and it wasn't just some hellish experience for decades.
At least in this continuity, Hank isn't a wife beater.
And now she has to introduce her real-world husband to her quantum-realm husband. Awkward.
I guess they recast Scott's daughter again?
Gotta make sure all the new kids are in their mid 30s by the time Young Avengers comes out.
It's a shame, too, I know they had to do a five year timeskip, but Abby Ryder Fortson, who played her in the first two movies, was terrific.
It bothers me to no end that they didn’t keep the actor that portrayed her in that brief scene in Endgame.
Best to get a tiny little 20 year old to play a child. You gotta provide schooling and "breaks" and limited shooting hours for children. Can be a real budget breaker for low budget indie productions like this.
Maybe they're all variants?
Evangeline Lilly simply refuses to do an Ant-Man movie with the same haircut
ScarJo was similar with her Black Widow appearances.
To be fair, it's in line with her character's comic counterpart who's a fashionista, and the pixie cut is her most iconic look.
When the trailer first loaded the resolution was garbage and I thought it was Judi Dench.
It's so bad in this one.
Well the first antman flick her hair was terriable soooo. It's getting better?
Reminder: Michelle Pfeiffer and Madonna are the same age.
Does Paul Rudd have some deal with baskin-robbins?
Maybe we've discovered the secret to his youthful appearance
He worked at one in the first Ant Man. And it was his first job before being an actor
It’s probably a deal but this clip in particular is a callback as it’s Scott’s boss from the first movie
"Paul you have no good car quantum ideas"
Who
a GREAT quantum steering wheel that doesn't FLY out the WINDOW while you DRIVING
You went to the quantum realm, now you have to marry your mother-in-law!!
Scott Lang probably loves his mother in law.
Kang, your hair would slick back real nice
Stinky!
What if the quantum zone is too small inside?
It genuinely brings me endless joy that, amidst all the world-ending, epic stakes of this trailer, the top comment relates to Ruben Rabasa’s single line.
A good a-Pym Particle that doesn’t blow up when you shrink down
You flinch! Now you have to marry your mother in law.
i’m doin the best at this
I would LOVE to see Tim Robinson in the MCU.
Quantum realm with no room for Mother-in-law.
This movie has everything!
I'm so glad he's in it.
Too esmall.
Oh nice!
"A good Ant-Man mask that doesn't fly off when you're changing sizes."
I hope it's more than just coincidence that they're using "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" on a scene featuring well-known Wizard of Oz buff Gregg Turkington.
After Greggs incredible recreation of the Jitterbug scene Hollywood has finally caught on how many Ozheads there are out there.
That thought is worth 5 bags of popcorn
Are we're just going to over look what Gregg did to Mark?
This is just the DC / Marvel crossover we've been waiting for and it's all thanks to the true villain of this film, Turkington's Joker.
Of course the movie subreddit would be filled to the brim with Greggheads. There's more to life than movies.
TURKLETON?!
I really wonder what the superhero landscape would look like if Guardians of the Galaxy never existed.
Trailers using classic rock songs still going strong.
My guess, probably less spacey and more terrestrial. I will say, GoTG is probably one of the strongest MCU movies. Remove all the MCU stuff, and you still have a really fun scifi movie.
100%. I'll always point to that movie as the paradigm shift for Marvel. People can shit on the movies all they want but I'm glad they've put out such grandiose movies with settings that come straight out of the comics and at least aren't depressing like DC.
DC - “Okay, bear with us. It’s silly but we will add realism. It’s comic book related but we swear you can see past that if you watch the movie. We’re super grounded. Just hang in there, it will be worth it. It’s dark and gritty… so kind of realistic right?”
The Quantum Realm?
Youuuu flinch Paul Rudd, now you have to marry you Mother in Lawww!
You! Have! No! Good! Car idei'as!
Stinnnnnky
How exactly did she create a device like that without sucking them into the microverse during development?
Quantum scienk
Poor Scott….
Kang acknowledges him!
Who?
Is there a tv trope for when the problem can be resolved if people had simply communicate better?
Yes
Ironically, the problem here seems to have been caused by too much communication.
Like No Way Home I see the trailer and think "there's no way the inciting incident can be that stupid in context, surely in the movie it will make sense?" and, i imagine like No Way Home, I will be wrong.
Yes. Roger Ebert referred to it as the
Was going to say the same thing... it's just like in the No Way Home trailer... it looks like the whole incident that kicks off the plot in this movie could've easily been avoided if people just talked for 30sec about what they're doing and the potential pitfalls before unleashing some insanely powerful technology / spell with unknown side effects.
Add to that the fact that the daughter has built a communication array for the quantum realm but doesn't even recognize the quantum realm when she sees it even though her entire family has been there and had to have taught her a number of things about the quantum realm in order for her to create that device.
TV? That was like Shakespeare's favorite dramatic tool.
I had to stop watching Cobra Kai because literally every single problem in the show was caused by poor communication skills. Characters would even be given the chance to clear things up and they'd just skip around it with statements like "I don't need to explain myself" or "You wouldn't believe me anyways" and they'd just continue to fight. It's one thing if it happens once or twice, but literally every single conflict in the show relied on that trope.
Kang having scars matching his face mask is a nice touch. Would have liked to have see more of the mask in the trailer, but the outfit looks great in general.
That comic-quality holo mask he got is looking like straight fire.
Is this supposed to be
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Steering wheel guy from I think You Should Leave and Gregg Turkington in the first few seconds of the trailer?? Im in!
Gregg was in Ant Man and the Wasp, as was Tim Heidecker ... Peyton Reed himself was a director who cut his teeth doing Mr. Show in the 90s. The comedy ties run deep.
You think ant man will have to marry his mother in law?
“Izza Stupid idea! No one likes your ideas! You’re the worse one at the table!” - steering wheel Guy
We need a superhero that is a-too small
buff kang hellyeah
Dude is jacked. I just looked up his prep for creed 3.
I heard Kang has an eight pack. That Kang is shredded.
He’s breaking the space-time continuum WITH BARE HANDS
https://twitter.com/SimuLiu/status/1559272786056679424
With Creed 3 and Ant-Man 3, next year is shaping up to be the year of Jonathan Majors.
He’s also coming back for Loki Season 2!
It’s gonna be a Major Majors year
Lovecraft getting cancelled was a Major oof…
Most important part of this: Gregg Turkington is back.
Going to be a five bag of popcorn movie with a scoop of Baskin Robbins
ReleaseTheTurkingtonCu
Iiiiiit’s movie time!
I dunno, I'm pretty hyped for the
Hey guys
5 stars and one tiny star
As an aside, I wish Decker was part of the MCU.
Whaleman 2023
Glad to see they're staying true to core characters.
Can't believe they let him be back after that awful Deck of Cards movie. Tim was barely able to salvage it and it was still not enough
this is going to win best picture as a write in
Cant wait to see how he shares his expertise in this movie.
Crazy he’d associate with this series again considering how hard the first one bombed. It only got one sad lonely bag of popcorn, the lowest rated film in On Cinema history
The Joker strikes again!
Which means Whale Man is still on the horizon.
Gregg Turkington who was also iiinnnn...?
Wonder how much he had to pay for it this time
My heart bleeds for the visual effects artists that are currently working on this. Lord. Looks like wall-to-wall animation and effects.
It seems most of the movie is set in the quantum realm so way more cgi/vfx shots than the last two.
At the beginning of the trailer i was thinking wow first time marvel has actually shot on real world locations, they’re finally giving their VFX people a break, and then the rest of the trailer had me feeling bad for all of the VFX teams. looks like the whole thing was shot on a green screen studio
It looks very volume heavy so say a prayer for the roto artists who have to trace every actor out of every frame!
On the one hand yes, but on the other hand, once visual fx jump into total crazy pants land it can get easier because viewers have no frame of reference. I imagine something like Dr. Strange is the most nightmare inducing because you have to have a photorealistic building that's also fractally bending itself into other photorealistic buildings, so 100% CGI but still needs to look like something that people have a perfect frame of reference for.
This was unfortunately one of my first thoughts too. After seeing posts about how mistreated and overworked they are, revisions last minute and more, its upsetting to see sadly.
Don't worry. They'll have lots of downtime when they're done because their studios will get dissolved.
Kang’s looking dope
I am more of a Kodos fella myself
His costume is fucking clean.
Anyone else disappointed this didn't just turn out to be a Mac & Me clip?
Is Conan O'Brien still developing his own talk show on HBO Max? I hope that gets done by the time the movie comes out. It just doesn't feel the same when Paul Rudd doesn't show up to his talk show and promote his movies.
Now would be a great opportunity to slip in a cameo of Mac down in the quantum realm.
Hey Janet, here's an idea. Don't tell the super-excited child to turn off the REALITY ENDANGERING DEVICE, maybe just hit the off button yourself or if you don't know where that is, smash a fuse or trip a breaker. DO SOMETHING.
It seems Marvel missed a trick to not title the movie quANTuMANia, no?
Nah it's gotta be the opposite: QUᴬᴺᵀUᴹᴬᴺIA
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A good steering wheel that doesn’t fly off when you enter the quantum realm!
Ant-Man. You have no. good. car. ideas.
Can you explain this? This is the second comment I've seen that said this and I don't get it.
TOO SMALL.
Never in my life did I think that I would see a comic accurate Kang.
Excellent teaser. Cannot wait for more Jonathan Majors!
Marvel is calling this a "trailer" but it's definitely more in line with their usual teasers for sure
Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
Presumably she was able to live so long in the Quantum Realm by stealing bits from the city. She knew about something hiding there that shouldn't be getting a signal (Kang, I'm guessing), which meant she run-ins with them before, but she was found alone, which means there was a falling out.
I'm guessing He Who Remains prisoned Kang there.
She and Kang totally hooked up
I'm betting Kang was imprisoned there, locked away because he was too dangerous. Maybe an AU Ant-Man imprisoned him there.
Kinda bummed they took the MODOK scene out of this; I do like that this seems a little more elevated in terms of tone compared to previous Ant Man films.
MODOK is in it too? Is he still voiced by Patton Oswalt?
Kang gonna be JACKED AF
Its cause he had to fight Creed before he got to Scott Lang
So strange that a character like antman, who never has never been able to hold a monthly title, now has THREE solo movies!
I did not know Goodbye Yellow Brick Road could sound so epic
Follows the trend of creating orchestral remixes for well known songs.
The same or at least a similar version was in The Boys earlier this year.
What is this, a realm for ANTS?!
Why did they recast his daughter?
Probably because Newton is a fairly popular young actress who has been in more shows and movies than Fuhrmann, so they wanted an actress with more experience and potentially more talent.
It's like they tried to give Evangeline Lily the ugliest haircut possible lmao
I'd say the first one was her worst. I liked her with just a plain ponytail in endgame the best
Maybe it’s revenge for her Covid comments.
I just see that as a granny haircut, but yeah it ain't good. There's the part though, that Charlize Theron set the horrible standards with her Furious roles and this isn't even close to as bad as "simple Jack".
Looks like there's ton of visual influence from Guardians of the Galaxy and Star Wars.
Haha to be fair, the daughter’s actress is 11 years older than the original actress.
Paul Rudd has barely aged since Clueless.
Really, I thought he seemed lot older looking here than before.
If you're a VFX artist, this is a horror movie.
Or someone who is just sick of CGI/Green screens and wants practical sci-fi films again. Alien and Blade Runner just set the bar too high.
Heard it’s a misdirect and it’s not Kang, it’s Krang.
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The trailer is giving me Fantastic Four plot vibes in the best way possible. We have this science "family" doing science things, weird things happen, EXPLORATION AND ADVENTURE!
There were rumors, the director had wanted to make FF movie. Feels like his pitch was then used for this film
I've enjoyed the Ant Man movies, but the trope of "i've never told you" is getting REALLY annoying. They didn't show Janet interacting with Scott in the quantum realm during the first movie, and now Janet not saying anything about a literal universe within the quantum realm.
I'm going to give the movie the benefit of the doubt that it isn't literally "Ya i never told you the single most amazing and unbelievable thing about the quantum realm, the thing you've spent your whole life working on". And if it is, she better have an amazing reason why.
Needs more Luis
Post credits scene should just be him recapping Phase 4 including the shows to catch everyone up.
Just don't kill Ant-Man. He's the dad of the avengers at this point.
Okay, time to speculate on Bill Murray's character. My money is on another Elder of the Universe. The Collector and The Grandmaster are two of these guys we've seen already. There are at least five major ones and I can see Murray playing of these pompous ancient aliens.
Jesus christ they changed the actress for Cassie AGAIN.
They get 'em from the same store that sells the Kaylee Ermantrout actresses
Well, the first one made sense, given the time jump and how kids look pretty distinctly older around puberty. But this second change is more similarly-aged recast the Endgame one, so it's a bit more likely to raise the question of "why the recast."
Totally missed the chance to use Tiny Dancer instead of Goodbye Yellow Brick Road.
What's this, Spy Kids 5?
Looks like the Micronauts aren't going to be part of this movie. No biotron, acroyear, baron karza or bug.
No, Marvel doesn't have the rights. I think Hasbro does at this point. That's also why they are calling it the Quantum Realm instead of Microverse.
So there is breathable air in the quantum realm?
Reading comics as a young kid and seeing kang on screen surprises me as much as seeing thanos fighting spider man on screen. Just things I’d never thought I’d see and it’s just as shocking actually seeing it. Majors looks amazing and captivating as kang. Can’t wait.
To think 20 years ago there were like 2 viable hero franchises that kept it mostly safe alongside a sea of absolutely abysmal takes on heroes and now we are getting massive budget hero movies.
Every movie looks like Attack of the Clones now.
200,000 units are ready, with 1,000,000 more on the way.
Ant man is gonna die and people are gonna riot. Word on the street is Rudd wants to bow out and let his kid take over. Man if that happens... If I ever have to see Paul die ever on screen i'mma cry . . . . . And that movie about cavemen with Jack Black doesn't count cause it was trash lol.
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Yes
If you’re going to watch any shows, watch Loki. Out of all the shows, it’s easily the most important of the bunch for the rest of the MCU going forward
I always watch stuff with subtitles on, and yep, it outright says Kang.
I don't know, at this point, the constant introduction of rather huge and remarkable story elements, that somehow everyone on Earth happened to be oblivious towards, until movie X, moreso after Phase Whatever and Thanos, gets a little stale.
I'll probably catch flack for this but, I felt like that was kind of a boring trailer?
Reddit police. Get ‘em outta here!
This looks like spy kids 3
I hope we get to see The Guy
Another MCU movie where a dumb teenager causes conflict across realms?
Hmmm Spider-Man: NWH, Doctor Strange in the MOM, Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel, you could argue Eternals with Sprite. looks like Black Panther: WF is going to have this plot point too with Ironheart
I really like Ant-man and generally enjoy marvel movies. but the music, color choice, plot… it’s all starting to look the same. Like this could be another Guardians or Thor movie. Still going to watch it, but just don’t have the excitement like i used to.
I'm looking forward to Kang being the next big bad.
I always wondered how Janet survived and didn’t go crazy after spending so much time down there!
Unironically really excited for this.
Giving Kang such a subdued voice ironically makes him sound more intimidating in a way.
Going the Spiderman route of character makes a dumbass mistake which causes havoc... If only there was better communication.