Firefox gang. A dude at worked laughed at me when i said their app ran like shit on firefox. “Who even uses that garbage”, well i so buddy and plenty other that care about not dunking everything in one mega corp. App and idea got cancelled two weeks later. But I digress, firefox gang!
Time to quit Internet for good, abandon all electronics, and move to the dugout jn the middle of the forest, so no company can track me and steal my precious data
You are not wrong. During the week I use a Nokia phone and only switch to smart phones on weekends. It helps me not get distracted and I can focus on work/life.
Until the ATF goes Ruby Ridge on your ass (if you don't know what I'm taking about please look up Ruby Ridge, not enough people know how awful the government is).
Although the logo is similar, chromium is an open source project and is worked on by a lot of developers. It’s the features or the lack there of that separate chrome from the rest. Brave is one that a lot developers love
On mac I find Firefox much faster than Brave. I might have a bug, measuring with the performance tab had Brave 2-3x slower than chrome and Firefox in some cases
Tbf, the bigger problem is google getting the monopoly on web browsers. Also I think it’s not as good as ublock specifically in terms of web ad blocking.
Why should they use adguard (I do, but why should others). Ad blockers have worked quite well for the past 10 years or so, so there was no need to switch.
The reason that it is problematic isn’t the source code itself it is the interpretation of standards and the defacto possibility to push for changes that are not conform. Due to the complexity of v8 or similar changes are hard to identify and patch out.
I don't know about them supporting the goog by using chromium, but Manifest V3 (the update in which adblockers will be removed) will affect all chromium browsers.
yeah me too, I don't get why people hate chromium based engines, it is open source and, as long as you don't use Google search, Google earns nothing from it
Hasn't this partnership been cancelled for negative feedback from users ? I'm not sure, especially since information regarding this announcement wasn't announced and shared en masse.
People are fucking stupid. Google has about as much connection go chromium as Android. It'd open source and third parties have almost full control of their browser and its code. Edge adopting Manifest V3 is like Samsung and Google Pixel both getting Android 12
FR. I got downvoted for recommending Brave to someone who has used Chrome for forever but still wants adblocking, because it’s based on Chromium, which doesn’t fucking matter.
Yeah, I don't give a fuck about using YOUR favorite browser. I'm going to continue to use brave. I like it and it works. And that's all that matters. The Firefox crew really needs to calm down. You're not helping bring people to your browser. You're just pissing people off and pushing them away.
Ok I'm extra dumb rn cuz I'm high so please bare woth ne but like how do I un-use Google? Y'know like how do I use Firefox or whatever the best alternative is on mobile?
Android, like chromium is open source, they don't get anything from it and with android you can remove all the Google services which aren't open source (but usually come with android for convenience) and replace them with alternatives.
If Android was on the brink of being the ONLY operating system on the market then yes, buying iPhones would be beneficial. If only one company controls the entire market with no competition, that means they can do whatever they want - and they will do everything to maximize their profits with disregard for the user experience. Because what are the users going to switch to if they're unhappy? Well, they can't switch because nothing else exists.
There will always be a browser or addon able to block ads, and it seems to be a rule of nature. Just make the switch when necessary. Most won't, that's why Google wins.
I am currently using opera gx browser's in built ad blocker on pc and it works fine for me. If i see stop working then I won't mind switching to Mozilla. The only problem i keep facing is to transfer all my passwords and bookmarks from one browser to the other.
Firefox uses Googles index. Brave does not. Brave is also dedicated to not having a bias for their search results. Almost every search engine has sold out in some way. Pick a ideal and use the best browser for that ideal.
The only real alternative is Firefox which by the way mostly exists because of Google paying them "to be the default option" when what they're doing is probably keeping alive a walking dead to keep antitrust cool considering Firefox is the only alternative to Chromium left, apart from Safari but that's another complicated story of limitations and unfair monopoly
Problem is that that there are only like 2 well working web engines. Webkit being borderline but since its apple they don't really care to develop their webengine beyond the bare minimum.
I'm using Vivaldi since it was released, chromium based, but first thing I did was adblock, after some time, they updated Vivaldi with built in ads and trackers block, so now I have double adblock.
ok so? I genuinely dont get whats wrong with that. I like using chromium engine best and so do many others. Whats the thing with monopoly though if they're the most popular one.
It's gonna take time, but every tech-literate person who installs a browser for a friend or family will slowly convert the world to Firefox. This is how Chrome proliferated and it is how it will die.
Firefox since 2k
Yer, I remember switching to Firefox cause they had tabs, it was so mint not having multiple windows open anymore.
Firefox gang. A dude at worked laughed at me when i said their app ran like shit on firefox. “Who even uses that garbage”, well i so buddy and plenty other that care about not dunking everything in one mega corp. App and idea got cancelled two weeks later. But I digress, firefox gang!
OP: "Don't use these browsers, use an alternative that isn't chromium based" Also OP: doesn't give examples
Netscape Navigator
Firefox, Safari
Examples? Just use firefox...
DuckDuckGo FTW
Intetnet Explorer 6
Umm,
Firefox predates Chrome (and Chromium) for a four years, so I think we're safe
Firefox has already put out statements that essentially say: Google bad. We will not drop Manifest V2.
Firefox relies on Google for a couple of things, which I really dislike, but it's as good as we get.
It's open source, so yes.
What do I do? Which ones do I use? i currently use edge.
Get Firefox. It's better than every other browser I've used
Firefox is the way to go! You can also try many of firefox's forks, I for example am on love with librewolf but there's plenty more.
Firefox with dickduckgo is the best solution.
Keep doing you man.
Honest answer for the average person who isn't completely privacy obsessed; Just keep using edge, it's fine.
Funny how the new edge is based on chromium now ack
Edge uses chromium too
I don't care who i support,i just don't want ads
TOR browser
Then you should use Firefox + uBlock Origin.
Then use Brave. You don't even need an adblocker, since it's built in. Also they didn't have a huge privacy problem like Opera.
Time to quit Internet for good, abandon all electronics, and move to the dugout jn the middle of the forest, so no company can track me and steal my precious data
Reject modernity, return to monke
There is no privacy in this world and unless your "precious data" involves tentacle vore hentai it is worthless
You are not wrong. During the week I use a Nokia phone and only switch to smart phones on weekends. It helps me not get distracted and I can focus on work/life.
Ron Swanson.
And you realize the US government is still spying on you with their satellites/j
Until the ATF goes Ruby Ridge on your ass (if you don't know what I'm taking about please look up Ruby Ridge, not enough people know how awful the government is).
Yes, using an equivalent but better product is the same as turning ascetic.
I dont own any smart devices. The smartest device in my house is my PC and I keep a loaded gun next to it in case it makes a sound I dont recognize /s
Do you have alternative s
Firefox (also has some forks like Waterfox or LibreWolf)
Pi-hole ftw
Didn't work for me on YT FB Insta ads.
You know what, idgaf I will keep using Firefox and Brave.
Brave and Opera make their own choices and add enhancements, so it's not the same. They both have built in adblock so that's not going away ever.
Although the logo is similar, chromium is an open source project and is worked on by a lot of developers. It’s the features or the lack there of that separate chrome from the rest. Brave is one that a lot developers love
Indeed. Google Chrome is a fork of Chromium, but with the added Google features.
Yeah Brave is great for privacy.
Chromium is the root of the issue. It is the thing implementing Manifest V3 that leads to the Ad and Tracker Blockers issues.
I only wish Firefox’s performance was on Brave’s level, I really do
Same.
Brave performs so well because it's based on the chromium engine.
Everyone keeps saying FF is slow, but I'm not sure what they mean, what y'all running it on for the perf difference to be noticable?
On mac I find Firefox much faster than Brave. I might have a bug, measuring with the performance tab had Brave 2-3x slower than chrome and Firefox in some cases
Wdym? Firefox runs like butter on my friends computer (which is from 2012) and on mine its instant!
On my PC it runs just as fast as Chrome, if not faster. I'm never installing Brave.
Firefox is almost twice faster than Brave. Switched about 2 weeks ago - no regrets.
I was a hardcore defender of Firefox until they absolutely fucked all that was good in the mobile version.
For now, I'll stay with Brave until i hate it
But it's got a really cool logo
Cute fox logo better
When will people learn to use Adguard already?
What is adguard?
A DNS ad and tracker blocker will never be as good as a browser based blocker.
I also wanna add the Adguard DNS is free to access and can be set at the router level.
Tried both Blokada & Adguard yet it still doesnt work for apps that uses Facebook for Ads.
Tbf, the bigger problem is google getting the monopoly on web browsers. Also I think it’s not as good as ublock specifically in terms of web ad blocking.
Except that it sucks on iOS :/
Adguard is a paid software while most methods to block ads are free. Also as far as I know it's not the fastest.
Portmaster is a more advanced alternative for windows, which integrates directly with the firewall.
Why should they use adguard (I do, but why should others). Ad blockers have worked quite well for the past 10 years or so, so there was no need to switch.
Better to use a pihole.
Firefox supremacy
How does it being based on an open sourced chromium build support Google? Do you understand what open source is?
The reason that it is problematic isn’t the source code itself it is the interpretation of standards and the defacto possibility to push for changes that are not conform. Due to the complexity of v8 or similar changes are hard to identify and patch out.
I don't know about them supporting the goog by using chromium, but Manifest V3 (the update in which adblockers will be removed) will affect all chromium browsers.
Chromium is implementing Manifest v3. Chromium uses Blink. It is furthering Google’s interests, and they are driving development.
Time to uninstall Chrome and dust off the ol' reliable Firefox again
Use librewolf. It's based on firefox.
*LibreWolf
Waterfox and Palemoon are good forks based on Firefox
There is only 2 browsers now...
Safari is webKit based but that's only for the apple guys
Honestly as long as i get an adblocker I'm fine
Just use Firefox ffs, it's awesome.
Time to switch to Netscape or even… safari
i still use brave
yeah me too, I don't get why people hate chromium based engines, it is open source and, as long as you don't use Google search, Google earns nothing from it
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Apparently, they
Oh no
Hasn't this partnership been cancelled for negative feedback from users ? I'm not sure, especially since information regarding this announcement wasn't announced and shared en masse.
People are fucking stupid. Google has about as much connection go chromium as Android. It'd open source and third parties have almost full control of their browser and its code. Edge adopting Manifest V3 is like Samsung and Google Pixel both getting Android 12
They're desperate for a conspiracy theory but don't know how it actually works
FR. I got downvoted for recommending Brave to someone who has used Chrome for forever but still wants adblocking, because it’s based on Chromium, which doesn’t fucking matter.
So which browser should be used?
I'd suggest Firefox but use whatever you want, brave and opera GX seem to be good options for chromium
Firefox and Librewolf are the top options. Others might still be out there, but please just use one of theese, they are great
That's why I still have the fluffy fox, and it's really nice.
I honestly don't know many people who use Chrome. Firefox and Duck Duck Go seem to be what's hip.
Firefox is the future
Chromium might be the basis of chrome and other browsers, but
Oh no...wait...nah, I don't care.
USE INTERNET EXPLORER
It's dead
Yeah, I don't give a fuck about using YOUR favorite browser. I'm going to continue to use brave. I like it and it works. And that's all that matters. The Firefox crew really needs to calm down. You're not helping bring people to your browser. You're just pissing people off and pushing them away.
just use whatever you want, I'm a Firefox user and advocate but so long as people are aware of the choice then it's fine
Brave is adopting ads in 2023 with manifest V3
Ok I'm extra dumb rn cuz I'm high so please bare woth ne but like how do I un-use Google? Y'know like how do I use Firefox or whatever the best alternative is on mobile?
just install Firefox through the play store or app store and import bookmarks or whatever else
Everybody with a Android support googel too in their monopoly of smartphone softwares nice so I do not ccare
Android, like chromium is open source, they don't get anything from it and with android you can remove all the Google services which aren't open source (but usually come with android for convenience) and replace them with alternatives.
Google will grow eventually consuming us all like a red giant, any "market" diversity will be illusory.
Solution: use firefox
Nice try, Firefox.
If Android was on the brink of being the ONLY operating system on the market then yes, buying iPhones would be beneficial. If only one company controls the entire market with no competition, that means they can do whatever they want - and they will do everything to maximize their profits with disregard for the user experience. Because what are the users going to switch to if they're unhappy? Well, they can't switch because nothing else exists.
Use Tor peeps!
Tor is unusable for normal browsing
Brave has incognito + ToR built into it as an option, FYI
brave is much more superior in hardware finger print blocking and overall ad/tracker blocking compared to firefox. never gonna stop using it.
who tf cares if someone's using a brave browser i thought we live in a time where we respect everyone's choices
There will always be a browser or addon able to block ads, and it seems to be a rule of nature. Just make the switch when necessary. Most won't, that's why Google wins.
I am currently using opera gx browser's in built ad blocker on pc and it works fine for me. If i see stop working then I won't mind switching to Mozilla. The only problem i keep facing is to transfer all my passwords and bookmarks from one browser to the other.
Firefox uses Googles index. Brave does not. Brave is also dedicated to not having a bias for their search results. Almost every search engine has sold out in some way. Pick a ideal and use the best browser for that ideal.
Is DuckDuckGo valid
ddg is chromium based on mobile and the mac browser is webkit. better than vanilla chrome but I'd suggest a Firefox based browser
The only real alternative is Firefox which by the way mostly exists because of Google paying them "to be the default option" when what they're doing is probably keeping alive a walking dead to keep antitrust cool considering Firefox is the only alternative to Chromium left, apart from Safari but that's another complicated story of limitations and unfair monopoly
but what if i still wana use brave (it has good adblocks)
Use DuckDuckGo
The major ones that aren't Chromium based are Firefox (Mozilla) and Safari (WebKit)
I never actually used firefox, is it good on both? (Phone and pc)
PC - absolutely. It's fully costumizable (you can make it almost indistingushable from Chrome with stuff from
What about opera gx? Please don't tell me that's going
Safari?
fuck Chrome i am using Opera
Problem is that that there are only like 2 well working web engines. Webkit being borderline but since its apple they don't really care to develop their webengine beyond the bare minimum.
So non-chromium browsers are Firefox and Safari. I know only these 2 (non-chromium)
Good iOS alternative supporting webm?
Use firefox guys. You'll love it.
Discart
we are here to evangelize you all to switch to firefox
I think I've still get Netscape on a floppy disk...
Except chromium is open source so google ain't seeing anything from you using it.
I use Sex as my web browsing software
That's why I'm using qutebrowser
is google serious about diabling ad blockers? was there an official statement? when is this cham=nge coming?
me who uses opera gx: nervous sweating
FIREFOX LEGION RIIIIISE!!!
So Uh.... can someone explain what’s happening with Google/chrome to me like I’m 5/an idiot because I am an idiot.
Google will stop supporting a standard that most adblockers used, and replace it, that doesn't allow them to operate propperly.
Not a chance am I giving up Vivaldi
I'm using Vivaldi since it was released, chromium based, but first thing I did was adblock, after some time, they updated Vivaldi with built in ads and trackers block, so now I have double adblock.
Firefox ftw
As long as my YT experience is ad-free… who gives a F?
Laughs in Firefox
Is Torr a good alternative?
Duck duck go uses googles search engine
Firefox users be like: I don't have such weaknesses.
Long live firefox
Brave is better than chrome
ok so? I genuinely dont get whats wrong with that. I like using chromium engine best and so do many others. Whats the thing with monopoly though if they're the most popular one.
God i am so fucking tired of these memes.
Firefox Market share is about to explode again. Everywhere you look there's a chromium based browser but Firefox stays true to their project.
OPERA TEAM WHERE YOU AT
What about opera gx?
I'd like to use something else than Opera GX, but it's so convenient for me, especially the built in VPN and net limiter
I remember going from Firefox to Chrome way back in the day and how scary of a feeling it was. Now it's time to go back home it seems.
Ig DuckDuckGo works?
What about duck duck go?
What's safe to use then?
Is that browser known only in states or what? I heared about it for the first time this week
Just switched to Firefox yesterday and it's not that groundbreaking to switch, so just do it. You can merge all your data and bookmarks easily too
Here I am using Links, and Lynx (when I only need text).
Honestly, I don't care if they use ads or not, I'll use anything as long as I know they aren't looking at my data
Firefox be looking real good right now.
Maybe Firefox
Inaccurate. Brave is safe nevertheless. They just use the engine, nsa from Google
Tl:dr just use firefox
When Edge announced moving to chromium, we knew this future was coming.
So I'm suppose to use bad web browser why?
Isn't chromium open source ?
Firefox is the only non-Chromium based browser than I know of that still exists.
Damn
This is just dumb. It's an open source project.
welp boots up tor
Tbh idgaf I just use the browser I like
It's gonna take time, but every tech-literate person who installs a browser for a friend or family will slowly convert the world to Firefox. This is how Chrome proliferated and it is how it will die.
Netscape Navigator!
Can someone tell me why is this important?
Me who uses safari
You should worry about the situation on iOS.
Been using firefox for 3 years now. Havent looked back once
Firefox Gang? Anyone?
What about duck duck go?
friendship ended with google, now firefox is my best friend
Oh shut the fuck up