1. Exactly this. Managers calling everyone to get back to the office to be social and collaborate. Everyone goes to the office and just sits at their desk with headphones on.

  2. The company I worked for announced that they actually noticed a company wide 20% improvement in productivity when we started WFH so they weren't in any real hurry to get us back to the office. I guess that dropped off 2 years later because now the push is for everyone to be back in the office as normal pre covid

  3. Pre-pandemic, my offices culture was actually pretty good. They had little parties, scheduled activities, lot of free food and other little perks that I kind of missed about a month in to 2020 work from home.

  4. It’s actually better for some people to be in the office. More people are more productive and a lot of people get no other social interaction. But for the people work better from home (which aren’t actually that many.) it’s way better for.

  5. I would LOVE a remote job. Not for the lazy reasons. Imagine how much money and time you save not having to go to work and back. Hell, I order pretty much everything. I could sell my car. Groceries get delivered now.

  6. I think it's a personality thing. Extroverts don't like the isolated feeling where as introverts love the space and privacy. Also having kids can be good or bad. It's nice to be able to have your kids close if they need you but also being on call while they're acting up is embarrassing. If I had the option I think I'd prefer a 2days in office/ 3days at home schedule

  7. I am an introvert and I vastly prefer to work somewhere else. I can not have my home space that's meant for relaxing and being cozy be turned into a work space. My literal nightmare.

  8. Nobody is talking about what stay at home does to young professionals straight out of college. I’ve watched some people thrive, but I’ve also seen it destroy many others. They develop terrible working habits without leadership.

  9. As an introvert, I love WFH, because I feel like most extraverted co-workers see my personality as "abnormal" or too quiet, even though I am friendly and social when in the mood, but I pretty much keep my work life and social life separate.

  10. If the extroverts feel this way they should all get together, seems simple. Dragging me into the office isn't a viable solution for their unhappiness or anxiety issues and I don't need to be subjected to people that want to force that on others by making them unhappy in an office. WFH is winning, I say suck it up and cope, most of out here love it.

  11. Con: passing out during a teams meeting and 45mins after the call you wake up to a bunch of messages from your boss saying that they could hear you snoring cause you forgot to mute your mic for the entire 90 minute meeting.

  12. if your partner is not working from home or you are single you will be alone at home all day and it can get boring every day, also I know I am more productive at the office and I have a nice kitchen with tons of snacks, a coffe machine and shit at the office, while at home I pay for air conditioning and lights and every food I eat, may sound petty but it piles up, I also know for 100% I'm more productive when I'm at the office because I don't have to deal with shit like laundry/dishes/technician coming over and other stuff, my office moved to a 3/2 routine (wfh on mondays and thursdays) and I show up on wfh days almost all the time, I even like those days better because I have the entire office for me and the teammates that do show up

  13. Ditto on this whole post!! We are the same person. After 2.5 years wfh, I got sick of it and go into the office much more than required. I am blessed to live very close to the office which helps.

  14. I know people who actually wanted to go back to work and hated homeworking. They all had one thing in common though. They had a shitty private life lol.

  15. I don’t know if it has to be “shitty” necessarily. So many people in my office have kids, I can’t imagine the stress that must have come with having to suddenly work and manage your kids all in the same space while schools were closed as well. I’m all for home office, but I realize not everyone is in a position where being at home all day is necessarily less stressful.

  16. Not necessarily, if your partner is not working from home or you are single you will be alone at home all day and it can get boring every day

  17. And how are people supposed to improve their private life’s when many people make friends and relationships out of local coworkers?

  18. I prefer to work in the office. It's because I have a hard time separating my work and home life anyway. Working from home means I just never stop working.

  19. I dunno, I have a fulfilling home life but I need to give myself some time to miss it. I prefer to work from the office but my work gives me a lot of flexibility to take personal time if I need some

  20. If you don’t have a good routine it can be unbelievably depressing working from home. As long as you get up and get dressed, make your bed and go outside a bit it’s not bad but I know too many people that never leave their pajamas and just bum it up all day and they end up napping all their free time away because they are depressed.

  21. I just wanted to go back because I'm a terrible procrastinator. Also, I was missing the chats with my colleagues. Also, in the home office I felt bad for having procrastinated, so I worked overtime to make up for it and ended up having very little time to myself.

  22. I've been wfh for about 10 years now, and for the longest time I thought I missed the office. I missed the office chatter and socializing. I even thought I missed the commute, as I took public transit and it encouraged me to read more.

  23. Definitely, I’d much rather work on a project at 7pm than spend 2 hours of my days going to and from work to look busy the majority of the day

  24. That’s how my workplace is. It’s 100% up to you. I’ve been doing Wednesdays in the office and the rest WFH. My boss comes in on Wednesdays too so we can touch base then.

  25. I’ve found it’s the best of both worlds. All of one or the other is too life-force-draining

  26. I much prefer working from a space outside of my home. I like to seperate private and work life as best as possible

  27. I LOVE working from home, but recently had to go into the office due to Internet outage. I surprised myself at how social I was with people who had to come in as well. The only reason I'd want to return to the office though, is to get some time away from my fiancé's brother. We're his caregivers and he can be very tiring with the amount of attention he requires. I love him to death, but everyone needs time and space from things sometimes.

  28. My current job isn't exactly WFH-friendly; ya kinda haveta be there, nature of the beast. But for those elements that could be WFH, about half would be fine, but everything computer-related.... I'd still need to come in. I get very very lazy and distracted around any computer. I hate to say it, but I needa degree of supervision and/or motivation, or else nothing gets done.

  29. 100% love (and miss) working from home. Would "clock in" at 8am, do work until noon, when I would stop and make/eat lunch, then work until 5pm, and at 5 I would promptly close my work email and open netflix. The difference is I didn't have a commute to/from the office so I actually had more free time. Very much miss this.

  30. Honestly I didn't like working from home. Mainly because the stress of the office was in the place I went to escape the stress of the office. Something about working and living in the same building made me feel worn out mentally. I left my work from home job to work at a hospital. Now I'm mostly just worn out physically.

  31. Cons: i miss being in an overcrowded office, the noise, the commute to work, the stress. Oh wait I don't.

  32. There are real cons. You lose the separation between work and life. And some people do enjoy a social element to work, with colleagues physically present. Of course for many people (most?) cutting out the commute still makes it worth it.

  33. Same here. I’m glad I’m not the only one. My company could care less if I was working from home, the moon, or from the office, as long as things get done. I was never a fan of the whole WFH thing from the get go - I missed the act of waking up in the morning, showering, getting dressed, heading to the office (20 minute commute) and greeting everyone and sitting down in my office. Talking to other people to figure out where we’d go for lunch. WFH kind of smeared the whole day into one thing where I’d wake up in the morning and end my day in the same place, with no real boundaries. Problem is, we have a fairly large office, and not a single person besides me actually goes there. Some days I decide to pretend like it’s all cool and do the routine, only to be there by myself the whole day with no one to interact with. It’s a double edged sword.

  34. Work from home 3rd year now. Love it, actually get more done, work longer as no commute. Pros: break is a pup walk, elliptical machine, toss in laundry. Loungy clothes, save on gas & traffic stress. Tons of Teams meets so see co workers throughout the day. Meet old office coworkers for dinner, happy hour to catch up. Cons: higher utilities bills, in Cali HOT, that's about it

  35. A bit disingenuous to say there are NO cons. Lots of distractions if you have a family. Harder to find work-life balance. If you have a partner that also works from home, it can be a bit of a challenge. I am an introvert with ADHD and I obviously I am in the minority but I vastly prefer going to work instead of working from him. My point is that this is why people need options. In this day and age, everyone should have the option.

  36. I sadly know people who wanted to return. They “missed the culture”. Really sad. Like, get some friends, get a life. Don’t get a job to make friends, don’t make work your identity unless you’re in a super specialized profession, which I am not. Just an office drone. Very cringe.

  37. Told my boss I wouldn't be returning to the office. I was now a WFH employee. 2 years of WFH during covid allowed me to turn my side gig into my main gig. When boss announced we would be returning to the office I reminded him of my statement that I wouldn't be returning to the office and quit.

  38. If you were focusing on your side gig whilst wfh, you’ve kinda proved their point. Long term you leaving is best for all parties.

  39. I wish companies would just admit that the reason they want you back in the office is because of the decades-long leases they have signed on the office building, that they can't get out of, and so they need to justify the expense.

  40. Introverts love Work from home. Extroverts don't. The problem is Extroverts work their way into management wile the introverts self manage. Now management wants people around and the introverts are happy at home. The justification for going into the office is really flimsy.

  41. I've been working remotely for about a year now. I'm a geologist and advanced enough in my career to not do too much field work anymore.

  42. My buddy is a computer engineer. Been at the same job for years and is currently realizing the same thing a lot of people did these last couple years: other companies are hiring for a lot more.

  43. Or big buisiness trying to play the victim and forcing people back in the office to justfy their rent

  44. You have to understand. If anyone stays home. Then why have I bought/build this beautiful concrete prison for all you slaves. Jees can a CEO never get a break. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  45. I guess the automobile industry and the oil industry have a hand behind this undue emphasis on 'returning' to work.

  46. I’m in the oil industry and am back in the office, but not everyone is. Certain jobs just need to be onsite. My contract company is on a hybrid schedule, which seems ideal too

  47. The only con is that some jobs show reduced productivity while remote. It may be lower level workers who slack without close oversight, or it may be managers who are being shown to be unnecessary because their teams work as well (or better) without their interference.

  48. I thought I was happy with isolation and working from home as an introvert, nah, that dropped my mental health quick, need human interaction other than your family or anyone you live with.

  49. there can be pros to working in person, but i think people don’t want to acknowledge it because they like being at home. some jobs are definitely fine to work remote, but where i work, the face-to-face time is really important to keeping people engaged and getting things done quickly. electronic communication almost always complicates and delays things, and the work we do needs to be fast-paced.

  50. I like coming into the office. I can't concentrate at home. But I also live like 500 feet from the building and have no kids or pets.

  51. My biggest complaint with this has been the lack of choice, especially as an introvert. I have coworkers that love the office and the culture there. I prefer to be alone and get more work done. They shouldn't be forced to be remote and I shouldn't have to come in and be their emotional support blanket. I try not to alienate people who like going in but I've been alienated this whole time for wanting to work remote it's hard not to do.

  52. Here's a crazy thought. Just came to me. An epiphany, if you will. How about corporations determine what it is worth to them to have a job/task/project performed and just paying a salary based upon that. No more hourly crap. Just, "do this and we give you this each year." Then workers can decide when they will complete the work. I used to work in a paper factory (I was in the lab running tests on product) and ALL of the work could have been completed in half the time people were forced to sit in that [email protected] factory wasting away their lives. Yeah, in this instance, schedule shifts but when the work is done, they go home. Same thing for remote workers. Who cares WHEN and/or WHERE the work gets done as long as it gets done. It is almost as if it isn't about productivity at all and about something else, like, dunno, controlling the masses.

  53. Lol half my team is British so I know they’re wanting their afternoon tea and ready to check out by the time lunch rolls around. Working with a team across the pond is great because it’s like two ships passing in the night long enough to figure out what’s been done and what needs done.

  54. Introverts loved it, those extroverts who are the types to always ask what you did last night, do you want to go out tonight, so and sos birthday next week do you want to chip in, stand at your office door and tell you things one could care less about are the ones that wanted to go back lol

  55. There are no cons imo. If you have friends and make plans regularly working from home is fantastic. You have more energy more time more patience since you don’t have to commute. You wake up, work and then live your life. If you stay shut in then yes you’ll be depressed, but if you have friends and people that already support you I don’t see how working from home will affect your mental state in any way. It might actually improve it since now there is a need to keep things clean and organized.

  56. My buddies wife told me she had a coworker that was working from home & one day during a meeting she forgot to mute her mic & was heard having sex with her husband. Now everyone that works from home for that company is monitored.

  57. I’m about to start a job that is fully work from home and I also live alone so I’ve been a bit worried. This post made me feel so much better.

  58. Working from home was a cancer to me. Not everyone has a dedicated space, internet, and computers. Not only that work creeped in, I got lazy, never fully able to relax.

  59. I'm afraid that's a fact, those articles are horse shit because they have big leases and just want people to use it, work from home worked and they mad about it.

  60. My job had us on a flexible schedule, which was two weeks at home, one week in the office. Which like, is better than in office all the time, so I didn’t like to complain but…jeez those weeks in the office were rough. I’d just think like…why am I not at home in my Jammies?! Lol

  61. The only issue is management will keep pushing for more in the office for hybrid. We went from go in when you feel like it to 2 days mandatory to 3 days mandatory with everyone in the office Tues/Wednesday and I know my CEO wants everyone there 5 days. Hopefully hybrid can survive- it feels like the best compromise

  62. I worked from home for a year and a half during the main part of the COVID first, I was fairly ambivalent about working from home, part of me missed the office environment. But that was mostly out of familiarity, not because of communication or anything like that. The only thing I need my boss to do is just tell me which project to work on next, and then I do it, but that's something done via email anyway...I am basically my own department at my company, so I was already used to working all by myself. I don't rely on other people to get my work done, and nobody else relies on me. And that didn't change based on where I was working from.

  63. I started a new job during the pandemic and doing remote work. I loved all of the freedom but I do feel like a lot of onboarding/training stuff fell through the cracks. That's the only real downside in my opinion, I don't think most companies should go without having any office space, but they could easily just have it primarily as a training and meeting space and have 90% of the employees working from home.

  64. I disagree with the not being tied to work. At my job at least, pre-pandemic I worked very little time over my 8 hours. There was no expectation to work more either. At home since there feels like a small expectation to work a bit longer. Ive pulled an all-nighter for a deadline where we normally arent expected to and would normally just brush off for a day or two. Also, now that we are available remotely, we are seemingly available all the time. Instead of just when at work. It is what it is though.

  65. At home my work and play area are the same, which is bad in itself amd I am often less productive at home since communication with collegues is easier at work.

  66. Maybe these people who work from home have more space than I do, but I would lose my mind being in my house all day every day.

  67. There are absolutely things I miss about the office, especially around social interaction. I miss lunches with friends and teammates, i miss morning coffee and talks over coffee, i miss spontaneous post work happy hours and our scotch tastings after hours. I miss talking to people about what they're excited to be working on, what blockers their running into, a lot of times they wouldn't even know it was something i could help with until the mentioned.

  68. I couldn't agree more with this post. My company finally said fuck it, productivity is just as high when in the office, we don't have to pay for an office space and utilities, we don't even need internet access so let's take our budget in that and give everyone $50 towards their internet service each month. We have tools like Slack and Teams so we can literally be anywhere there is internet access and have a meeting when we need to. So why go back to office life? My boss tries to have a "team building" event every other month. And by "team building" I mean we meet somewhere like Taco Mac, drink beer, eat food, laugh, joke, and talk about anything but work, and he usually picks up the tab for it. So yeah, working remote is awesome, that's why I won't ever quit this job! Not trying to brag or anything, but if your company doesn't offer any of this, maybe you need to look around, just saying.

  69. My company is fine with either. I prefer going to the office because I don't want my home to be my work. I want to get home and have no trace of my job. However there are days where I just want that extra 30 min in bed or want to do laundry etc. which is nice to be able to do and be free in the evening.

  70. Hmmm well in all honesty I've seen more or less an equal amount of articles of working from home being good and bad, but idk tho it might just be my timeline.

  71. Well I got duped into moving back into the city with 2k rent to end up only going into the office 3 times despite their constant fear mongering of firing people that won’t return.

  72. I've never been happier than the year my now wife and I got our first apartment, and I worked part time and from home. I spent that year able to pay my bills, playing with, caring for, and watching our puppy grow up. I took care of chores around the house. I would sit on the porch every day at 2:30 PM after my shift, let me dog go potty, and watch the kids from the school across the street go home, hearing all of the "Look there's a puppy!" From them.

  73. My company had a big "town hall" broadcast to all the employees with some of the top executives, and it opened with a lot of them saying how happy they were to finally return to their corporate offices.

  74. Cons: people are taking up all the remote jobs so those who are trying to do the same are unable to make a living to provide for their families.

  75. I got my current job right as my company was transitioning back to the office. Every day, I’m reminded of just how easily I could do my job without having to sit in traffic for an hour+ every day. My boss emails me assignments, I email completed assignments back to him. Our offices are 20 feet apart but may as well be 20 miles. It doesn’t matter in the slightest where either of us physically is. Case in point: we each travel somewhat often and still get work done when we’re in different countries. I wanna go home.

  76. Well to be fair. Lock down and wfh really put to display for everyone to see, how unimportant and useless middle management really is. I do understand why they cry to get people back in the office - so the middle manager appear to be of use to the company

  77. Lmao. I swear this is exactly how I feel! I never wanna go back. Every time I see one of those articles, I'm like "shhhhh!".

  78. Speaking quite generally, introverts have lived in an extroverts world forever, and now many of them get to work how they’ve always wanted to. It’s not that either can’t adapt or enjoy, it’s a question of fairness in how people prefer to work, and the fact that a big chunk of the workforce is unhappy with one group dictating the terms of the deal, when it’s proven that the workplace can be way more flexible with people.

  79. Pros: happiness, spending more time with family, excellent work/life balance, maximized comfort, reduced stress, saving money, increased productivity

  80. If a viable option for your field of work (say for example an office job), it should be mandatory for businesses to have working from home full time as an option for employees

  81. Pros-can just walk up to the computer; no hours-long commute. -Save gas, wear and tear on car. -Save on dry cleaning and hair/makeup -Less office politics and fewer personality clashes

  82. I prefer working at an office, I’m more productive there an procrastinate a lot at home. Should be a choice though on whether you want to or not

  83. I've worked from home for over ten years. The Pros far outweigh the Cons, but to imply there are no Cons is idiotic.

  84. CNBC and other MSM won’t stop trying to make this happen by ringing this bell that most companies are now calling everyone back in 🥹

  85. Con: the ever looming desire to forgo work/school and browse the internet not stop whilst thinking “I have time, I can do it later”

  86. Working from home would save my wife 30 hours of her life and $140 a month in gasoline. Why wouldn't someone want more work life balance and more money in this time of inflation?

  87. This is why office jobs are lame. Couldn’t imagine having to work inside a building for 8+ hours. Sounds so fucking boring & repetitive. Glad I’m in environmental & get to visit a different river, lake or stream every single day & get paid to take nature hikes.

  88. I like going in to the office from time to time it's nice seeing people instead of just sending them messages on IM. I miss the hybrid schedule I used to have.

  89. Con: my living space that I originally set up to be my escape has slowly been taken over by work/school and now I truly feel like there’s no place that my job can’t get to me.

  90. The only con is they try to micro manage tf out you in your own house. Like bitch I’m not about to ask to go to the BR in my own house lol.

  91. I enjoy the office bc it has a better set up than what they can offer me just at my own place. Also more consistent internet. Also away from my kids. I wouldn't mind it either way, but tbh I prefer working in an office.

  92. Wfh is awesome Log into work in your underwear, you can actually work when you’re actually productive you can go wherever you want to you can have people over, you save a lot of money in rent and travelling expenses

  93. I would never want to give up my office to stay home. Have my own thermostat to control AC, fully stocked kitchen with espresso machine and Illy coffee imported, lunches paid for, an assistant to do the menial work. It's nice having a change of scenery too, I wouldn't want to stay home every day, having done so before.

  94. (Country accent) Those bosses just want to get back to their nice big offices where they can sit in their comfy chairs behind their huge desks and watch us be miserable in our little cubicles thru their big glass windows and think about which time-wasting “teambuilding” exercise they’ll force us to dance along to for the second time this week and how many pointless meetings they’ll make us attend when we’re supposed to be working because LORD FORBID we get our work done and not pretend to be busy for 3 hours out of the day!

  95. Pros: I have my dogs, I don’t have to have a dress code because my work is just talking on the phone so no one sees how I look, saving gas, I can sleep(if I want) until a half hour until my shift starts. Or even until 5 minutes until my shift starts.

  96. I actually quit a job (just prior to Covid) because they wanted me to start coming in every day, when my written agreement was that I come in three days a week (since my commute was 50 miles a day, one way). Jump to 2020 and I was as chill as I have ever been and as productive as at any time in my career. I actually won a monetary award for my innovation during the Covid lockdown ( IT professional tasked with supporting company infrastructure). It is ridiculous to require employees to be onsite when it is not absolutely necessary. I hope work from home becomes normalized. Companies want to control the lives of employees, not work as partners.

  97. I've observed a really big divide when it comes to commute difficulty. People that have long, annoying commutes tend to be convinced that any claims of large numbers of people wanting to be in the office are made up. People that have easy commutes are more likley to want to go into the office, and are convinced that people that want to work from home are being lazy by refusing to contribute much to the workplace beyond the exact letter of the work assigned to them.

  98. I said I was never going to work in person again, but I’m glad I was wrong. It’s nice to actually meet my coworkers, we get free lunch twice a week (plus breakfast food and snacks), and I get pulled into spontaneous conversations and problems, meaning more people know to ask me for help and I see more parts of the tech stack. The important thing is that my job is nice and they make it worth it to come in, rather than expecting me to follow their policies without incentive

  99. I will never go back to an office. Working remote is the way. The one con is the expectation of 110% productivity and calls being scheduled over lunch time and outside of working hours. I find myself having to check people and protect my time.

  100. I'm probably one of the extreme few that enjoys driving into the office every day to work. I just recently got a job fully remote that's 100% remote and I'm not sure how I'm going to keep my sanity :/

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