I was in a karate tournament when I got kicked in the back of the shoulder dislocating it. The head ref, who was a physical therapist by day, walks up and tells me to bite down hard on my mouth guard. The sound of the pop and the rush of pain that entered into my body is still the worst pain I've felt to date surpassing 2nd degree burns on my face, broken foot, and straining all of the muscles in my neck. Adrenaline is the only reason he could keep playing.
Dislocated shoulder stops you in your tracks. I popped it once snowboarding and after it happened sometimes when I sneezed, or coughed too hard. Woke up in the middle of the night abruptly and did it once..eventually got the surgery and been golden since.
Baker had pretty much the same injury...he played through it, but it obviously wasn't the same (and he dislocated again). Justin relies on running and being hit, unlike Baker...which he won' be able to do with confidence.
I’ve dislocated my shoulder 50+ times and have had three separate surgeries due to ice hockey. The actually pain from dislocating is immense. The pain is intense while it is out of the socket. However, my own experience was that it really didn’t hurt once I got it back in. The sensation of relief of the pain was almost worth the initial pain of the dislocation in the first place.
Eberflus said the 2nd down QB run after Fields hurt his shoulder was a mistake. Was supposed to be a draw for Montgomery. Said it was miscommunication between Fields and Montgomery.
If he was a pocket passer and since it's not his throwing arm he could be back this week unless he tore up some ligaments... then he probably should get surgery.
If he gets a device we might need to split his rushing and passing into separate players. Like we did back in the day with Wayne Gretzky’s goals and assists in hockey pools.
What a bleh comment. We will gloss the fact that QBs don’t play each other. He was just throwing to multiple 1st rd WRs with an absolutely loaded team versus a Clemson team that wasn’t very good. Nobody drafted on defense after that season and only two guys drafted on defense the next year, in fact, their only two guys drafted the next year. For a perennial contender to have that weak of a defense is a head scratcher.
My friend played basketball with a dislocated shoulder and it would just keep slipping out while he was running. We had to put his shoulder back in place like 10 times. That's just from running. Imagine throwing 300lbs freaks of nature hitting him, too.
I’ve done this before and idk how tf he did that. I’m sure mine wasn’t as bad as his and even then I felt like hell immediately after, not just with pain but also just like my shoulder was super unstable. I did mine while surfing and could barely paddle back to shore, couldn’t imagine throwing a football even if you had painkillers
Can damage the ligaments and cartilage, both the dislocation and popping it back in. Best left to a medical professional to reset it. Also one dislocation makes another more likely.
Yes, I do all the time. Unfortunately, once it dislocates, it will continue even on minor things like reaching over to the seat next to you or scratching your back. Need surgery and PT to ever get it “set” again.
If you have a mild case then yeah. But they're incredibly painful and very often lead to torn ligaments and cartilage around the socket. Meaning you lose strength, stability, and run a very very high risk of re dislocation.
Shut him down and let the team recover. Find out if there are any diamonds in the rough and move on to next year. The Bears could be good very very quickly.
Lots of misinformation in this thread. The most common soft tissue damage as a result of a first time dislocation is damage to the labrum (bankart lesion). There is also commonly concomitant bony changes from the physical collision and impaction between the head of the humerus and the rim of shoulder socket (glenoid). Regardless of associated pathology, once you have dislocated once, you are at risk for further dislocations. The severity of the concomitant pathology will impact overall stability of the joint and guide treatment. Typically, first time dislocation does not require major bony work, unless there is significant associated bony injury (uncommon after one dislocation). At his age, unlikely to have major rotator cuff pathology. He could continue to play with a brace - the capsular repair (bankart repair), which is commonly done after first dislocation in high level athletes (most common concomitant pathology after first dislocation), is not emergent. It can be done in the off-season. It's about putting him positions to avoid repeat dislocations which could ultimately lead to him needing more significant surgery.
Idk if you're a doctor or just googled a bunch of shit but I had the ex-49ers surgeon do my bankart repair and he totally botched it. PT was a nightmare.
He’s tough as hell. That was evident in college. Kid has seemingly played during games when he shouldn’t have. Hope he has a quick recovery and keeps progressing. Fun player to watch.
I don't mean to sound like a hero or anything, but I've finished a rugby game after putting my own shoulder back in. And I've seen dozens of others do this in my life too.
How do ya know it was relocated during the game tho? The first time I dislocated my shoulder was insanely painful, doctors strapping me down and popping it back in was the most pain I've ever experienced in my life. Sounds like he was playing with it all fucked up? Idk
Not quite collar bone but I've broken my foot before and shoulder dislocation was at least 10x more painful than a bone break to me. Ive had stress fractures in my shins before and those were mild. I've also had tooth abscess which is probably the most painful thing I've ever experienced in my life. I think different people react to different injuries differently. If you were able to pop your shoulder back in without issues and continue playing without immense pain or having it falling out it's likely that you've just gotten an incredibly lucky dislocation that didn't damage ligaments or cartilage around it. Shoulder dislocation is considered far more painful than things like ACL or achilles tears mainly because of how packed your shoulder is with ligaments and nerves. I'm on the other side of the spectrum there
It's definitely true. I held Fields, but yeah, he was averaging nearly 150 rushing yards a game with nearly 50 rushing attempts in 3 games. That takes a toll and is far excessive from Josh Allen & Lamar Jackson rushing totals. I suppose you can partly blame the Bears for allowing Fields to play completely unrestricted.
I’m terrified to play him now with the reinjury risk this weekend against a hard hitting Jets D with a good secondary. He will need to run to be successful and that’s so scary this week.
It’s definitely not recommended (because you’ll do more damage AND increase the likelihood of a future dislocation) but you can pop a dislocated shoulder back in by yourself depending on the circumstances.
Damn he’s beast, hope he doesn’t do any further damage by coming back to early. I have tua at least but I’m in a super flex league and fields was keeping me alive
As a former boxer and now boxing coach at American Top Team. I continually suffer from dislocation of my left shoulder. It’s awful. Happens frequently. I could only imagine getting absolutely drilled with it dislocated or run with it.
Traded Fields and Olave for Kamara and Chase on Friday (I have Herbert). Trade went through (due to review period) this morning. Timing was understood by both parties as we were playing in week 11. Thanks for the wins Fields. Now Chase come back!
“Justin Fields died on the field, but somehow played through it. He’s day-to-day.”
Adrenaline is one hell of a thing.
CAN HE PLAY?!
I was in a karate tournament when I got kicked in the back of the shoulder dislocating it. The head ref, who was a physical therapist by day, walks up and tells me to bite down hard on my mouth guard. The sound of the pop and the rush of pain that entered into my body is still the worst pain I've felt to date surpassing 2nd degree burns on my face, broken foot, and straining all of the muscles in my neck. Adrenaline is the only reason he could keep playing.
Dislocated shoulder stops you in your tracks. I popped it once snowboarding and after it happened sometimes when I sneezed, or coughed too hard. Woke up in the middle of the night abruptly and did it once..eventually got the surgery and been golden since.
The Matt Breida experience
Baker had pretty much the same injury...he played through it, but it obviously wasn't the same (and he dislocated again). Justin relies on running and being hit, unlike Baker...which he won' be able to do with confidence.
They have a lot of experience with full body pain unlike us. They get car-crash wrestlemania suplex-crunched a 100 times a year.
I’ve dislocated my shoulder 50+ times and have had three separate surgeries due to ice hockey. The actually pain from dislocating is immense. The pain is intense while it is out of the socket. However, my own experience was that it really didn’t hurt once I got it back in. The sensation of relief of the pain was almost worth the initial pain of the dislocation in the first place.
That last series playcalling. Qb run. Qb hurt. Qb run again. Qb hurt again.
Eberflus said the 2nd down QB run after Fields hurt his shoulder was a mistake. Was supposed to be a draw for Montgomery. Said it was miscommunication between Fields and Montgomery.
18 rush att is insane.
Yeah not a great look after fields himself was saying he was very beat up the week before
He was beat up and cramping. Bears OC- designed run is still on the menu boys.
Violent league. It's hard for the amount of running Fields was doing to be sustainable.
He also played through injury a ton in college (I get downvoted every time I say this) so this isn't surprising to me given the volume he's had.
Also takes a ton of sacks
This is why the " hE wAs oN pAcE fOr" crowd kills me. Business decisions are important....
This is why I hate it, it looks fun to watch but it's never worth it
How long is he out? That is what we need to know
If he was a pocket passer and since it's not his throwing arm he could be back this week unless he tore up some ligaments... then he probably should get surgery.
According to Chicago he’ll either be back tomorrow or they’ve already started planning his funeral. 🫠
Dude played through a bad injury tail end of Ohio State career. He’s tough as nails. It’ll be up to the Bears org cause he’ll want to play.
He may not be back until after the bye if that’s the case.
Probably depends more on if he tore ligaments, muscle or tendons.
Well I own him, so he's probably done for the season. He's going to join Breece, Kupp, lance, and Bateman in my player graveyard.
Get that man the device!
** Dalvin Cook bursts through the door and bestows the device upon our young prince’s shoulder**
If he gets a device we might need to split his rushing and passing into separate players. Like we did back in the day with Wayne Gretzky’s goals and assists in hockey pools.
Get this man to QB slide...
So glad I kept Tua too
Got Geno on my bench. You think he'll miss next week?
Glad I kept Dak as well
Same!
I kept Lamar… but I’m not feeling great about it tbh. At least his schedule looks good ROS (other than Broncos W13)
Yeah - really glad I kept Josh Allen. Been nice to have a non-scrub in the lineup the last couple weeks, but I guess I'll have to go back...
so glad I traded away hurts
I was trying to sell Lamar all week lmao thank god I failed
Same.
Same
I'm sittin on Herbert. Time for the bolts to pick back up.
0-3 weeks per google
Does that account for having a dawg in you?
That’s for normal people, not NFL athletes I’m assuming?
Hey siri what’s the recovery timeframe if he’s Him?
Source: The dawg
Pretty much best case scenario I’d think
One tough bastard.
He beat Trevor Lawrence in a bowl game with broken ribs, while setting throwing records for Ohio State. I'm not surprised.
What a bleh comment. We will gloss the fact that QBs don’t play each other. He was just throwing to multiple 1st rd WRs with an absolutely loaded team versus a Clemson team that wasn’t very good. Nobody drafted on defense after that season and only two guys drafted on defense the next year, in fact, their only two guys drafted the next year. For a perennial contender to have that weak of a defense is a head scratcher.
Better than a fracture
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Dalvin cook seems to do it once every other year
My friend played basketball with a dislocated shoulder and it would just keep slipping out while he was running. We had to put his shoulder back in place like 10 times. That's just from running. Imagine throwing 300lbs freaks of nature hitting him, too.
I’ve done this before and idk how tf he did that. I’m sure mine wasn’t as bad as his and even then I felt like hell immediately after, not just with pain but also just like my shoulder was super unstable. I did mine while surfing and could barely paddle back to shore, couldn’t imagine throwing a football even if you had painkillers
I’d be terrified in the water with that injury, especially if the waves are ripping that day.
Can’t you usually just pop those back into place
Martin Riggs would.
Can damage the ligaments and cartilage, both the dislocation and popping it back in. Best left to a medical professional to reset it. Also one dislocation makes another more likely.
Yes, I do all the time. Unfortunately, once it dislocates, it will continue even on minor things like reaching over to the seat next to you or scratching your back. Need surgery and PT to ever get it “set” again.
10 dislocations later and I’ve done it myself every time 🤣
Yes but after one dislocation it's extremely easy for it to pop out again without surgery
If you have a mild case then yeah. But they're incredibly painful and very often lead to torn ligaments and cartilage around the socket. Meaning you lose strength, stability, and run a very very high risk of re dislocation.
Dislocation should sit for 2 weeks from injury. So in theory should miss 1 game and not throw all the following week and then ay week 13.
Avoids the Jets and back in action for a high scoring game with the Pack. As a Jets and Fields owner, I can get onboard with this.
They have a Week 14 BYE would be shocked to see him back Week 13 given that. Week 15 is probably best case.
Someone get T H E D E V I C E
Shut him down and let the team recover. Find out if there are any diamonds in the rough and move on to next year. The Bears could be good very very quickly.
Rest up King, maybe get to see you after the bye.
Lots of misinformation in this thread. The most common soft tissue damage as a result of a first time dislocation is damage to the labrum (bankart lesion). There is also commonly concomitant bony changes from the physical collision and impaction between the head of the humerus and the rim of shoulder socket (glenoid). Regardless of associated pathology, once you have dislocated once, you are at risk for further dislocations. The severity of the concomitant pathology will impact overall stability of the joint and guide treatment. Typically, first time dislocation does not require major bony work, unless there is significant associated bony injury (uncommon after one dislocation). At his age, unlikely to have major rotator cuff pathology. He could continue to play with a brace - the capsular repair (bankart repair), which is commonly done after first dislocation in high level athletes (most common concomitant pathology after first dislocation), is not emergent. It can be done in the off-season. It's about putting him positions to avoid repeat dislocations which could ultimately lead to him needing more significant surgery.
Idk if you're a doctor or just googled a bunch of shit but I had the ex-49ers surgeon do my bankart repair and he totally botched it. PT was a nightmare.
Okay nerd
He’s tough as hell. That was evident in college. Kid has seemingly played during games when he shouldn’t have. Hope he has a quick recovery and keeps progressing. Fun player to watch.
I'm going to have to pick up Matt Ryan and start him. Lord help me.
I don't mean to sound like a hero or anything, but I've finished a rugby game after putting my own shoulder back in. And I've seen dozens of others do this in my life too.
How do ya know it was relocated during the game tho? The first time I dislocated my shoulder was insanely painful, doctors strapping me down and popping it back in was the most pain I've ever experienced in my life. Sounds like he was playing with it all fucked up? Idk
Not quite collar bone but I've broken my foot before and shoulder dislocation was at least 10x more painful than a bone break to me. Ive had stress fractures in my shins before and those were mild. I've also had tooth abscess which is probably the most painful thing I've ever experienced in my life. I think different people react to different injuries differently. If you were able to pop your shoulder back in without issues and continue playing without immense pain or having it falling out it's likely that you've just gotten an incredibly lucky dislocation that didn't damage ligaments or cartilage around it. Shoulder dislocation is considered far more painful than things like ACL or achilles tears mainly because of how packed your shoulder is with ligaments and nerves. I'm on the other side of the spectrum there
Time for the device! Call up Dalvin
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It's definitely true. I held Fields, but yeah, he was averaging nearly 150 rushing yards a game with nearly 50 rushing attempts in 3 games. That takes a toll and is far excessive from Josh Allen & Lamar Jackson rushing totals. I suppose you can partly blame the Bears for allowing Fields to play completely unrestricted.
You’re getting downvoted because statistically, even running QBs are more likely to be injured in the pocket.
Downvoted by salty Fields owners
If you watch his games. Every time he’s hit sacked tackled touched or breathed on… he is grimacing in pain or can barely stand up after the play
I have dislocated my shoulders dozens of times. I figured this was it when I saw it.
I’m terrified to play him now with the reinjury risk this weekend against a hard hitting Jets D with a good secondary. He will need to run to be successful and that’s so scary this week.
He's not going to play. They aren't stupid. Fire your jets d up against Trevor siemien
Fields got that dawg in em
Gym rat?
God damnit I knew when they got the ball back shit could get bad but I didn’t think it’s was gonna be this bad.
Thank the lord I didn’t trade/drop Dak Prescott
It’s definitely not recommended (because you’ll do more damage AND increase the likelihood of a future dislocation) but you can pop a dislocated shoulder back in by yourself depending on the circumstances.
Damn he’s beast, hope he doesn’t do any further damage by coming back to early. I have tua at least but I’m in a super flex league and fields was keeping me alive
What does he need his shoulder for? Throwing?
How can you go back and play after that? Did it go back in the socket? That shit is fucking painful
How was this not diagnosed during the game lol, wtf are they doing
I separated my AC joint in my shoulder in a game 14 years ago and it’s just not starting to cause me some grief.
If he only had a consistent offense that can protect and pass to. Stay healthy young man!
That sounds less worse and makes me optimistic. But I thought football players play through these all the time?
My league only allows 2 qbs on your roster. 12 team no IR. I have fields and Watson. I just need fields to play one more game.
That's a 2 week vacation at my job. These are some tough SOB's playin in the nfl
Get Mr. Miyagi Stat.
PFT Reported it wasn't a dislocation.
Sit the man. The Bears are vying for a high draft pick, not a playoff berth.
It was a good ride Fields. Let’s ride next year.
Vegan power
I traded him for McLauren to the 1st place team lol.
Y’all must’ve not watched Fields in OSU. Dude played through so much
Time to bust out The Device®.
Just throw the Dalvin device on it and get back out there Fields
As a former boxer and now boxing coach at American Top Team. I continually suffer from dislocation of my left shoulder. It’s awful. Happens frequently. I could only imagine getting absolutely drilled with it dislocated or run with it.
Traded Fields and Olave for Kamara and Chase on Friday (I have Herbert). Trade went through (due to review period) this morning. Timing was understood by both parties as we were playing in week 11. Thanks for the wins Fields. Now Chase come back!
Sure glad I traded Lamar before this week
Are we playing him this week? Or should I pivot to burrow?
I'm 4-7 with a very slight chance at the playoffs, he's been my lifeblood the past few weeks keeping my team alive.
So is he out?
As a Jets fan this is great news.
everyone was doggin me for trading fields for burrow after that dolphins game Lol
If he's back for fantasy playoffs give me fields all day with fresh legs
Oh no! What will the Bears do to fill the void of his 6 pass attempts every game???
Damn. I'm still not 100% from mine 2 years later. These guys are insane athletes
Lol just traded for him
I was adamant Fields wouldn’t last long with the rushing volume he was having. He also doesn’t slide enough.