What is odd that in Wyoming or Montana from a population density standpoint, most of the population is so separated, they should’ve had extremely low death rates even with low vaccination rates. They have higher death rates, compared to when you look at New York or California where people are packed together in some of those cities like sardines. Very interesting.
This also uses March 2021 as a starting point. California and New York had severe outbreaks in 2020 and early 2021 which likely helped lead to increased early vaccination adoption. I'd be interested to see the data from the beginning of covid. That being said, having a larger population also means the denominator is much much larger for those other states.
It's probably an age thing. From what I know, Wyoming has a really high average age compared to California or NY. As a vast majority of covid victims are 70+, I assume this is one of the reasons why wyoming was hit that hard. But that's just a thought, no idea if it holds any truth
I caught covid in Wyoming, and that’s saying a shit ton, because I worked as an ER tech (in my home state) throughout the pandemic lol. Things were super lax, almost like you could forget about the pandemic for a minute, but surprise, there was a reason for wearing masks after all
Even though the population density is relatively small that doesn’t mean you don’t have a lot of interaction with other people on a day-to-day basis. So the vaccination rate probably does bear out in this case
Yep. Also from Oklahoma. Even with how bad it was people still gave me crap for wearing a mask. Had multiple family members get it. A fair amount of friends I knew had family that got it. Even one of my friends got it. Ridiculous how people fought it so hard on not wanting to stay in and stuff.
They have that much more of a population.... NY had 4.98 Milllion Cases and 67,330 Deaths. OK had 1.03 million cases and 14,010 deaths. NY just has 8.419 Million people in that state.
When in reality it is most likely that many deaths aren't attributed to covid when they should be (pneumonia months after covid, respirator and intubation etc).
Kind of mind boggling that massive cities with dense populations like Los Angeles and New York didn’t make rank much higher on the list. Looks like vaccines and preventative measures do work, according to this study
My dad works as a liaison for a long-term acute care in Oklahoma. During the height of the pandemic he constantly talked about how 99 percent of patients were in the hospital because of covid and almost all of them weren't vaccinated. Having to transfer patients to hospitals out of state because there just wasn't any room here. Ambulances would show up at hospitals and have to hold patients outside as a make-shift room until a room was available, clogging the ambulance availability across the state. God forbid you tell anyone here to wear a mask though. I hate it here.
Oklahoma doesn't surprise me. It's circumstantial evidence but coming back from a backpacking trip in the Ozarks I stopped at a Walmart for some medical stuff in some small town in Oklahoma. I shit you not everyone in that Walmart was so fat it was disturbing except the people behind me in line that were clearly some meth heads. I was fucking shocked. Like so fat I wanted to call an ambulance to be on call just in case a heart attack occurred. I'm from Texas and I've seen plenty of overweight people, but the Oklahoma obese people, I'm not sure who they were even standing up.
I know I'll get downvoted but a lot of those deaths weren't even attributed to Covid. Some people were getting mark as a Covid related deaths even if they didn't die from Covid specifically. They were just lumping anyone who tested positive together at the beginning to try and inflate the numbers. Not saying you shouldn't be scared to catch Covid but there was an obvious agenda. Could be so that they could shut everything down, crash the stock market and buy up stocks at a 90% discount and make millions selling them a year later when everything recovers.
Why is this only taking into account the second year of the pandemic? New York and New Jersey fared horribly but from this map it would look like they did a great job (probably because many of the at-risk people already died).
You could get that information pretty easily elsewhere, such as Google (search for “COVID deaths” and you can sort by per capita for all time, for example). What’s interesting about this is seeing one year since broad vaccine availability. These deaths were so much more preventable than the year prior, so you can arguably see the consequences of individual choices and regional attitudes here.
Because I wanted to see how states did over the second year. I don’t think you can really make the argument that getting hit “hard” initially means the “weak” got killed off early and there were fewer to kill off later. Those initial hard-hit areas actually weren’t that bad when you consider what came next. After a year, most states had been hit hard.
This is crazy to me as someone who, after two years of successfully dodging, finally got caught being complacent. I am double vaxxed and boosted and recovering quickly despite being pregnant. I'm so thankful for the vaccines.
The vast majority of people die with many co-morbidities. You have to understand why and how the CDC uses these. They are not necessarily a contributing factor to a person’s death.
I live in Hawaii, just saying we had the highest vaccination rate in the country, and we care deeply about our elderly. Our population is over 1 million and live in densely populated areas and homes. The numbers don't lie.
I visited Oklahoma during the pandemic in 2020 when everything was shutting down in my area and there was a bustling restaurant scene with no one wearing masks. It felt oddly backwards.
I’d be interested to see the over all death increase from pre COVID years to post. Cause this doesn’t look like much but I know two ppl who tested at home and died at home. They’re not counted in these numbers. And considering healthcare prices here they can’t be alone.
I find it interesting that the first state to really focus on statewide health insurance, Massachusetts, seems to have the lowest death rate. Is there another factor that is more pertinent?
These are not facts and are considered covid related.. you could have died in a car accident with covid and it would be considered covid related. Stop spreading misinformation please.
Firstly, died with covid or from covid? Massive difference. Next do the flu, which in my country kills several times the number of people as covid...but without the panic response
Would also, Ike to see it contrasted with other fatality numbers. Are these high? If not even 2x of a very small rate is not a huge practical difference.
Thank you for your
What is odd that in Wyoming or Montana from a population density standpoint, most of the population is so separated, they should’ve had extremely low death rates even with low vaccination rates. They have higher death rates, compared to when you look at New York or California where people are packed together in some of those cities like sardines. Very interesting.
Less access to readily available medical services for the same reason you listed - Low pop density.
Compare the different ages in population against it.
It's because in rural areas everyone goes to the same stores, churches, schools, etc.
The death rate among vaxers is so much lower, 93% COVID survivor rate.
This also uses March 2021 as a starting point. California and New York had severe outbreaks in 2020 and early 2021 which likely helped lead to increased early vaccination adoption. I'd be interested to see the data from the beginning of covid. That being said, having a larger population also means the denominator is much much larger for those other states.
It's probably an age thing. From what I know, Wyoming has a really high average age compared to California or NY. As a vast majority of covid victims are 70+, I assume this is one of the reasons why wyoming was hit that hard. But that's just a thought, no idea if it holds any truth
I caught covid in Wyoming, and that’s saying a shit ton, because I worked as an ER tech (in my home state) throughout the pandemic lol. Things were super lax, almost like you could forget about the pandemic for a minute, but surprise, there was a reason for wearing masks after all
Climate. Colder climates people live a lot more indoors and COVID thrives during winter conditions in general.
It's almost like there is... a political factor at play here.
Even though the population density is relatively small that doesn’t mean you don’t have a lot of interaction with other people on a day-to-day basis. So the vaccination rate probably does bear out in this case
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As an Oklahoman, yep this seems about right.
Can I ask you a question and please don't be offended, but does almost everyone in Oklahoma know someone who has died of Covid?
It was close at the end but we came out #1!
Yep. Also from Oklahoma. Even with how bad it was people still gave me crap for wearing a mask. Had multiple family members get it. A fair amount of friends I knew had family that got it. Even one of my friends got it. Ridiculous how people fought it so hard on not wanting to stay in and stuff.
Oklahoma Oklahoma Oklahoma!
Interesting how three of five states with the lowest rates were also the ones hardest hit back in March 2020.
Being hit so hard, they adopted the strictest rules.
They have that much more of a population.... NY had 4.98 Milllion Cases and 67,330 Deaths. OK had 1.03 million cases and 14,010 deaths. NY just has 8.419 Million people in that state.
Conclusion: panhandles cause Covid deaths.
Correction: Panhandle behavior is strongly correlated with covid deaths.
Kinda sucks to be Oklahoman right now.
There's a time when it doesn't suck to be in Oklahoma?
People will still see this and consider it a hoax and fake data
When in reality it is most likely that many deaths aren't attributed to covid when they should be (pneumonia months after covid, respirator and intubation etc).
I'd be interested to see this visualization starting as early as 2019
The first covid death in the USA was on Jan 9, 2020, so the 2019 data would be pretty uninteresting!
It would be the same, except high density states (esp NY) would balloon up quickly and the South and rural states would finally pass them late 2021.
Source: NYTimes Github Repo
Can you do this with counties? (yes, I realize it'd be a cluster of a map...)
It's almost as if rates were higher in places where mask/vaccine/social-distancing usage was lower.
Kind of mind boggling that massive cities with dense populations like Los Angeles and New York didn’t make rank much higher on the list. Looks like vaccines and preventative measures do work, according to this study
It just shows that the impact is minimal though,if you calculate the absolute risk increase between states (not the relative one) it's not that high
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My dad works as a liaison for a long-term acute care in Oklahoma. During the height of the pandemic he constantly talked about how 99 percent of patients were in the hospital because of covid and almost all of them weren't vaccinated. Having to transfer patients to hospitals out of state because there just wasn't any room here. Ambulances would show up at hospitals and have to hold patients outside as a make-shift room until a room was available, clogging the ambulance availability across the state. God forbid you tell anyone here to wear a mask though. I hate it here.
Oklahoma doesn't surprise me. It's circumstantial evidence but coming back from a backpacking trip in the Ozarks I stopped at a Walmart for some medical stuff in some small town in Oklahoma. I shit you not everyone in that Walmart was so fat it was disturbing except the people behind me in line that were clearly some meth heads. I was fucking shocked. Like so fat I wanted to call an ambulance to be on call just in case a heart attack occurred. I'm from Texas and I've seen plenty of overweight people, but the Oklahoma obese people, I'm not sure who they were even standing up.
They drive tractors for a living so the don't stand much
You could almost use this as an electoral map..
I would like to see that overlay
You most def can with counties.
Still blows my mind how political this became in the US.
I know I'll get downvoted but a lot of those deaths weren't even attributed to Covid. Some people were getting mark as a Covid related deaths even if they didn't die from Covid specifically. They were just lumping anyone who tested positive together at the beginning to try and inflate the numbers. Not saying you shouldn't be scared to catch Covid but there was an obvious agenda. Could be so that they could shut everything down, crash the stock market and buy up stocks at a 90% discount and make millions selling them a year later when everything recovers.
So what killed an extra one million Americans over the last two years?
Why is this only taking into account the second year of the pandemic? New York and New Jersey fared horribly but from this map it would look like they did a great job (probably because many of the at-risk people already died).
You could get that information pretty easily elsewhere, such as Google (search for “COVID deaths” and you can sort by per capita for all time, for example). What’s interesting about this is seeing one year since broad vaccine availability. These deaths were so much more preventable than the year prior, so you can arguably see the consequences of individual choices and regional attitudes here.
Because I wanted to see how states did over the second year. I don’t think you can really make the argument that getting hit “hard” initially means the “weak” got killed off early and there were fewer to kill off later. Those initial hard-hit areas actually weren’t that bad when you consider what came next. After a year, most states had been hit hard.
Ok but what about the US territories
There is too much political massaging of data to be believable.
Something killed an extra one million Americans the last two years.
When in doubt ask “what would the fine folks in Oklahoma and West Virginia do?” Then do the opposite.
This is crazy to me as someone who, after two years of successfully dodging, finally got caught being complacent. I am double vaxxed and boosted and recovering quickly despite being pregnant. I'm so thankful for the vaccines.
A salute to the great Joe Manchin. The sorriest state in the union chooses the sorriest leadership.
Oklahoma, where the state is red and the people are dead
A more useful map would have taken into account age as well.
Oklahoma's median age is 37, West Virginia is 43 and on the higher end of the age spectrum.
Dude it's overcooked stop
But but but Biden and gas prices and pizza gate!!
People in Wyoming and Oklahoma don't believe in masks. I wonder if there is a correlation 🤔
Not really. South Dakota didn't require masks or vaccines and it remained pretty low.
This resembles a political map as well... look at all of those republican states.
Thumbs up to the deep south for at least putting WV and OK to shame.
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Look, you made a red-state blue-state map using orange.
90%+ with 4 or more co-morbidities
That’s not a valid $tatistic
The vast majority of people die with many co-morbidities. You have to understand why and how the CDC uses these. They are not necessarily a contributing factor to a person’s death.
What’s the multi variation analysis show… red states?
I live in Hawaii, just saying we had the highest vaccination rate in the country, and we care deeply about our elderly. Our population is over 1 million and live in densely populated areas and homes. The numbers don't lie.
Being an island may have a bit to do with it.
These are much lower then I would have thought
I visited Oklahoma during the pandemic in 2020 when everything was shutting down in my area and there was a bustling restaurant scene with no one wearing masks. It felt oddly backwards.
Maybe I'm just dumb, but some things are bothering me about this chart.
Imo, per capita just means that it’s normalized by population. You can then scale that as you’d like.
I'm glad I live in a blue state.
Not a meaningful graphic. Deaths attributed to covid is really just counting how many deaths hospitals used for extra funding.
Then explain to me what killed an extra one million Americans over the last two years? Aliens?
Died FROM covid or died WITH covid?
Something killed an extra million Americans over the last two years. Got an alternate explanation for what killed them?
I’d be interested to see the over all death increase from pre COVID years to post. Cause this doesn’t look like much but I know two ppl who tested at home and died at home. They’re not counted in these numbers. And considering healthcare prices here they can’t be alone.
Oh gee. The doom and groomers predicted Florida and Texas with their non hysteria policies would be 50%. Numbers are no different than other areas.
Found the guy who doesn't understand maps or the meaning of 'per capita'.
twice that of California, that's a difference.
Who predicted 50%?
So someone is going to post this every year for the next 50 years? Oy vey do we really have to?
Man read the title but add the exlcimation marks with it.
Not surprising that the bible belt got hit hard with all their antimask and antivax bs
I will be interested to see if these deaths have any effect on the midterm elections
Yep. This graph showed my expectations before even watching it. Damn Republican states.
California and New York did very well all things considered.
Now overlay with percentage of counties voting for Trump and number of churches per square mile
And for this the entire world must suffer
I love how OPs title reads like a product rebranding advert lol
Just like I intended.
I find it interesting that the first state to really focus on statewide health insurance, Massachusetts, seems to have the lowest death rate. Is there another factor that is more pertinent?
I'd love to see the electoral map laid over this.. I bet it comes pretty close to matching up perfectly.
Damn Oklahoma getting hammered
These are not facts and are considered covid related.. you could have died in a car accident with covid and it would be considered covid related. Stop spreading misinformation please.
Stop spreading information you hear and don't understand.
Such a tiny fraction of the population, yet they spammed it on the news that it's the most dangerous virus ever.
These look like abortion stats.. you know.. deaths as fractions of a person
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Firstly, died with covid or from covid? Massive difference. Next do the flu, which in my country kills several times the number of people as covid...but without the panic response
There is not a massive difference between “with COVID” and “from COVID.”
Would also, Ike to see it contrasted with other fatality numbers. Are these high? If not even 2x of a very small rate is not a huge practical difference.
This map seems very… political
Hm i wonder why all these conservative urbanizing states got hit so hard...
What do you mean by conservative urbanizing
Ah barely any more than flu I see
Hardly. ~10000 people per year die in the US from influenza.