I would have to say Robert Queen. Without his sacrifice, Oliver wouldn't have been able to become the (Green) Arrow, that is at least what Moira seems to think in the final episode.
Tommy’s death changed Oliver’s trajectory drastically when it came to his mission. At first it was about righting his father’s wrongs. But after Tommy died, Oliver’s mission became about actually saving the city.
I gotta disagree with that. He couldn’t even be bothered to say he loved her when she was on her deathbed when everyone else did. Oliver’s parents and Tommy’s death affected him way more and led to him making decisions based on what they would want him to do.
So killing bad guys means you’re not a hero? Pretty sure if some psycho was shooting up a public place and some random person that could’ve been a victim takes down the shooter and kills him, he would still be deemed a hero…
Of course Robert was the whole reason he put on the cowl. But I would say after that it was Tommy and Moira. It changed up Ollie's whole MO, deamenor and how he treated the people and city for the better.
There are strong arguments for all of them honestly, especially Tommy and Moria, but atm my choice is Laurel. Even without her death, she serves as the motivation for many of his decisions in the first two seasons, in her death this is elevated. He never thought she should be fighting in the first place. He’s more protective of her than any other character, so he pulls the ultimate Oliver and is his most broody and self-blaming self. He refuses to work with anyone, keeps rejecting the idea of a new team. He feels like he’s let her down a second time. He is even protective of a clearly evil version of her bc of this.
For sure it can’t be Tommy or Moira there were brought back. Remember Moira telling Thea that Oliver couldn’t bring back people who didn’t change the hero he was.
I would have to say Robert Queen. Without his sacrifice, Oliver wouldn't have been able to become the (Green) Arrow, that is at least what Moira seems to think in the final episode.
The kid’s name was Akio Yamashiro.
His father. His entire "Arrow" lifestyle was built after Robert's death.
Ik there’s other but Robert deserves to be there
Tommy’s death changed Oliver’s trajectory drastically when it came to his mission. At first it was about righting his father’s wrongs. But after Tommy died, Oliver’s mission became about actually saving the city.
IMO, Laurel's death is what drives a lot of what Oliver does in Season 4b and Season 5.
I gotta disagree with that. He couldn’t even be bothered to say he loved her when she was on her deathbed when everyone else did. Oliver’s parents and Tommy’s death affected him way more and led to him making decisions based on what they would want him to do.
tommy was the whole reason he stopped killing (for a time) and that propelled him into becoming a legitimate hero
So killing bad guys means you’re not a hero? Pretty sure if some psycho was shooting up a public place and some random person that could’ve been a victim takes down the shooter and kills him, he would still be deemed a hero…
Of course Robert was the whole reason he put on the cowl. But I would say after that it was Tommy and Moira. It changed up Ollie's whole MO, deamenor and how he treated the people and city for the better.
Probably his own. I’d have to imagine that dying would have to have some pretty significant effects on a person
WAIT LAUREL DIES?! .....anyway
It’s marked as spoiler…
What about Sara Lance
Robert
I'm gonna' say Moira. He essentially gave up after she died and was ready to let Slade kill him.
Robert Queen.
Robert easily
Robert queen. Without him oliver would never become the green arrow
I mean Robert for sure
Robert by far. Out of these though probably Tommy
The chicken in season one..
Are you talking about the bird that Yao Fei killed?
Thea
There are strong arguments for all of them honestly, especially Tommy and Moria, but atm my choice is Laurel. Even without her death, she serves as the motivation for many of his decisions in the first two seasons, in her death this is elevated. He never thought she should be fighting in the first place. He’s more protective of her than any other character, so he pulls the ultimate Oliver and is his most broody and self-blaming self. He refuses to work with anyone, keeps rejecting the idea of a new team. He feels like he’s let her down a second time. He is even protective of a clearly evil version of her bc of this.
For sure it can’t be Tommy or Moira there were brought back. Remember Moira telling Thea that Oliver couldn’t bring back people who didn’t change the hero he was.
his dad
I'm shocked slade was never in attendance