YSK to avoid “Devilcorp” type job postings if you are currently job searching.

  1. Also, do not work any type of job where you have to pay the employer before you can start working. Wether that's paying for merchandise, training, or resources, any reputable employer will pay for what you need to get the job done or send you to a regular store to get what you need that they don't have (such as work appropriate attire).

  2. I had to pay for my uniform and accessories before I could start working at a very popular chicken restaurant that's only open 6 days a week. They were so nice to offer the option of having the expense for said items taken out of my fist check.

  3. I worked for a company that required us to wear some of the clothes we sold. They gave us an allowance, I think seasonally but it's been about 20 years, for the clothing. You just needed to wear one piece of the current collection and you could pair it with something generic like jeans or with pieces from previous seasons. It was definitely a perk

  4. You're right, but in my experience, "Lifeguard" is the exception to this rule. Lots of young people fill that role, and they need training and equipment upfront for it. Sometimes they take it out of your first paycheck, and sometimes you pay for it in advance.

  5. I wasted so much time showing up for interviews that turned out to be either commission only life insurance sales or freaking commission only Kirby vacuum sales. Our local Kirby dealer has five different phone numbers on five just-different-enough ads. It's ridiculous

  6. Go to an interview, get there to find that instead of an a solo interview, you're put in a room with others (who thought the same as you!) then they give you applications/contracts and have you watch a video about how you'll be SELLING KNIVES (never mentioned!)!

  7. In college I responded to an ad for Vector Marketing not knowing what they were. The interview was unlike any other. I showed up at a industrial type building without any windows and just a small sign over the door. I was led into a large open warehouse type space with 30 foot ceilings and two dozen chairs set up facing a projector screen. Six or eight of us candidates filled the seats. They started into a powerpoint talking up the company, red flag 1 was that there was no description of what the job would be.

  8. Yeah, same!! I just posted above as well about all the red flags I didn’t recognize because I was 17 lmao. It was Vector as well, but inevitably CutCo.

  9. Bots or not, do NOT fall for any sales position that is commission only, as I once did. You'll work your ass off for no pay until you finally land your first account, then your slim percentage will come in 30 days later and you're like "WTF, how'm I supposed to live off this?" as you go back out and try to land another one. Absolutely nothing in the way of bennies as you're considered an independent contractor, which also means you're responsible for your own taxes.

  10. It depends. I know a few realtors who are doing not bad, one who is doing very well. I think car sales people can do OK too if you are reasonably good. Commission works OK on big ticket items like a car or house.

  11. I had a whole argument in business school about how unethical this is. My professor, an elderly Harvard PhD, failed to see the issue with not giving a salesperson a regular salary. He believed it was actually better motivation for someone to work on commission only and basically ensured those who worked hard would receive the compensation they deserved. I thought of a specific stupid position I was offered in the past which was selling office printers and service packages. Job had a joke of a below minimum wage salary and was for the most part commission only. The territory I would've been responsible for covering spanned a lot of miles and the interviewers were very shady when asked about gas/toll reimbursement. Most offices I worked in at the time already had pre-existing service contracts with a large printer brand. There was no way in hell I was going to walk in someone's office and basically sell them something they've already thought to buy on day 1 and make an entire income from that.

  12. I had the particularly terrible experience of accepting a job offer from one of these, earlier this year. I was messed around from the very beginning, from being told there was three weeks paid training, only to find out I wouldn't be paid a base salary and it was door to door selling from the off, to them mixing up the days or something, so two days in a row I travelled to their office and was sent away both times. They asked me to come in the next day and I politely told them where to put it.

  13. I fell victim to one of these postings!! It made me feel HORRIBLE when I was trying to apply to job a long time ago. This is a great YSK that I wish I had seen years ago.

  14. You should be proud that you saw through the scam before signing to work with them. Not everyone is so savvy.

  15. It's so easy to get caught up in the prospect of getting a job. Especially when you need one! Don't feel too bad or embarrassed that it happened to you. Their sole job is draw inas many people as possible, hoping that at least a few stick around long enough to make them money. Hopefully you've had success since then and at least you know what to look out for now!

  16. Yeah I’m pretty savvy with scams and this kinda stuff but even I fell for this once. They wanted a same day zoom interview which lasted TWO HOURS and then asked if I could do another literally the next day

  17. Damn, I wish I would have seen this earlier in my life. I worked for smart circle for just shy of two years in my early 20’s. Took me a bit too long to understand the circle would never complete and I was wasting my time.

  18. Fucking "Primerica" always pulling this shit, and they have so many people at my university wrapped up in it. People are so aware of it now that they don't tell you the name of the company just say "Hey I work for this financial company, I was wondering if you'd want to interview with them?"

  19. I like to think of myself as a pretty smart and savvy person, but I fell for one of these scams when I was at the absolute lowest point in my life, and completely vulnerable. I was so depressed I could barely get out of bed, and because of my depression I had absolutely no money. Saw a posting for a job working with labor unions, and it said the pay was between $40k - 60k. I'm super pro-union, and would've walked through fire to make that much money back then, so I was the perfect mark.

  20. This was the most educative and entertaining post I have ever seen. Lol thank you for sharing. I think I remember coming across something like this when I was in my early 20’s I went to an interview for prime America and I remember the chick that was hiring me was asking me all sorts of weird questions and I had this weird feeling. I noticed them standing a lot, no furniture and that pretentious over positive personality that made you feel weird. lol I bounced immediately.

  21. I get lost at management. The only people I know that want to be managers are people that don't want to work or are incompetent :p I've been manager, and I like to think I did well at it. But I didn't specifically try to become a manager. Eventually it got to the point where I was teaching and training all the time and telling people where they need to focus. But anyone I've met that's like "I want to work a management position" I'm like what's wrong with you lol. But then they get there and they do like 2 hours of a work a day and I'm like oooohhh I see.

  22. Although they are rare any more, avoid telemarketers too. I worked for a company called KUSA or something like that when I was in my late teens. They actually paid good for the first week. But when we showed up to get our checks on the second week, we found a note on the door saying that they were closed. We sold coupon books for them. I was really good at selling the coupon books, too. I was actually considered the top seller two weeks in a row. It's a shame that they were just a scam. The funny thing is that I really liked that job. But as the saying goes if it's to good to be true, it isn't.

  23. I "fell" for this for but the anxiety of commission-only business-to-business sales had me quit by Thursday of my 2nd week. I think I made under $200 for 8 days of hustle.

  24. Yea I went to the seminar myself and it wasn't until the end that I pieced together what was happening. Had a few friends who did it, and my cousin sold knives for years.

  25. The business model for these companies is basically to get as many people in the door as possible. Get them to sell whatever to their friends and families, once that is done they cut the person loose and replace with a new person

  26. I always avoided commission jobs. If it was such a great selling product, there is no way they would commission it. They don't commission iPhones or PlayStation

  27. Fell victim to this too. When first moved in September 2019. The job they sold was hella different than actual. Barely lasted 2 months (3 months too long). Started a new (and different kind of toxic) job very beginning of 2020.

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