I mean, can this really be classified as “gc drama”? There was the turret drama at champions a few months ago over another shitty Riot ruling. This is a Riot problem, not a GC problem
Call me batshit crazy but I don't see his Tweet being that inflammatory...it would have made more sense to suspend him for the bird only than for the bird and the Tweet. Not that a suspension for the bird makes any sense in the first place.
Actual moronic decision. We've had T1 pro players do this after games and they haven't ever copped close to this punishment. Yet they wanna make the coach miss the Grand Finals.. nah.
Clap Clap Clap. Thanks for ruining a great year of gamechangers riot. If G2 wins tomorrow everyone will side eye the title of the first ever Gamechangers Champions.
lmao? I get the C9 players were just bantering but like they literally shit talked Shopify all year. He flicks the bird for like 1 second and is suspended from grands??
I highly doubt the finals will get higher vierwership since the finals are at the same time as the first match of the World Cup. But yeah, this doesn’t help
Not defending the suspension, but do you not see the difference in tweeting on your own twitter vs an action on Riot's broadcast from a business perspective?
Even though I think what he did was kinda weird—the optics of a grown coach flipping off teenage girls, especially in a format like game changers isn't the best—suspension and a fine feel too excessive. They're obvs citing a direct rule that he breached, so he had to know, in some capacity, how to behave and the fallout of not following those rules.
That's gonna sting for a grand final tomorrow. It does seem a little excessive for a middle finger but he kept poking the bear with his tweets, pROBably regretting it a little bit now..
Yeah I feel like it’s obvious that this is the result of him poking the bear and being petulant on main. In which case it sucks for the SR players that this happened but, better to set the precedent now ahead of the franchise league. Just send a message to all the coaches. “Hey, you’re being held to a higher standard than the players because you’re supposed to set an example. If you poke the bear the bear will maul you with a suspension”. Everyone’s acting like he got banned over a middle finger.
Absolutely horrible ruling imo. A fine is MORE than enough if you want to punish it. Was it maybe an extreme reaction in the moment? Sure. But there is shittalk constantly. Like, FPX wasn’t fined/suspended after their comments during the XSET FPX situation—nor should they have been. This has been made into a WAY bigger deal than it is.
if they have an analyst or assistant coach, maybe they can take the place of the suspended head coach and the head coach can relay info to them too? Thats maybe the best they can make out of the situation.
as a fan of valorant, this ruling is disgraceful. just a big middle finger to the development of a great esport that could have great rivalries and great storylines.
I am Rob's father, and I raised him right and taught him manners and how to be a man. I did not teach him to show middle finger. After this incident of his behavior recently, I have disowned him. He is no longer a son of mine. I must urge a boycott of Shopify Rebellion. Come home my boy.
I guarantee it would've been just a fine if he didn't give the passive aggressive tweet. Also the guy's a coach, they should be held to a higher standard
There were multiple middle fingers in male Valorant as well, people are trolling riot with them under the tweet announcing the ruling. Riot are being soft and dumb as fuck. None of those were suspensions. Plus riot has the middle finger moment in their highlights video, it's fucking ridiculous.
Yep. Knew it. And the unrepentant behavior/tweets is probably what sealed the deal on him getting suspended for tomorrow's grand finals. So stupid, he's hurt his team's chances to win.
Imma be down voted for this but it's immature and childish to give a middle finger to someone who is competing at a pro level no matter how much they trashtalk prior. Of course riot would punish this type of behavior.
Wish both teams can walkout to boycott the ruling tomorrow. Its unfair the SR girls have to suffer because of this. If he walked up to C9's faces or threatened them and did it, it would make more sense but JUST A GESTURE AND FOR THE GRAND FINALS UR INSANEEEEE
If they had any integrity they'd boycott. Fuck this shit. I want to see two teams at their best in the grand finals, not a title with an asterisk next to it.
Then we'll be boycotting till the heat death of the universe. Arbitrary rulings based upon optics/how offended riot feels has always been the norm when it comes to riot e-sports.
people use NFL or NBA as examples but they are ignoring that those are grown ass people, in this case young people are involved. it would be more appropriate to use examples of this happening in the baseball little league or it's similar for the rest of the sports
Riot devs would poop their pampers if they were in the FGC. Btw I'm now certain Riot devs parse the subreddit cause every action is made after a meme post gets popular. If you see this, John Riot, you suck
A bunch of losers defending the coach, I guess it does reflect most of the Valorant player base so I shouldn't be surprised so many people are defending this type of behavior that shouldn't exist in any sport, period.
https://reddit.com/r/ValorantCompetitive/comments/yzierj/respect_to_robwiz_for_taking_the_fine/
Respect to RobWiz for taking the suspension 💀
Ngl, it looks like he's being used as a precedent for possible future incidents.
Yes that is how precedent works lol
This just in: establishing a precedent sets precedent
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I mean, can this really be classified as “gc drama”? There was the turret drama at champions a few months ago over another shitty Riot ruling. This is a Riot problem, not a GC problem
Thank you for highlighting this.
its obv sexism since its toxicity towards women /s
Mel even posted this tweet regarding the situation.
Everyone's scared of being XSETed at this point
Well if SR wins now I am sure he’s gonna show the finger again
Its kind of bs how a match as important as the grand finals might be decided over a middle finger
this is what everyone should be feeling.
Clearly more than that. It’s his response to the ruling that triggered this
imo the coach deserves the hate more than riot for putting his team in this situation
A suspension is way too excessive of a punishment. A fine makes sense, but this is just way too much of an overreaction.
seriously fuck rito, C9W had been trashing every other team 24/7. big L here
Maybe don’t tweet challenging Riot and the ruling and this wouldn’t have happened. He couldn’t help himself though
You can’t even type “dumb” in league chat right now without getting banned. Riot is going insane.
I still don't understand why Riot is so against BMing in Val; why can't this be considered as a joke that went a bit too far due to emotions?
lmao riot clownery yet again
He probably would have just been fined but showed no remorse afterwards with his tweet which likely increase his punishment.
I actually think the fact that it was caught on camera is the only reason his punishment is this harsh. Riot cares about the optics after all
Call me batshit crazy but I don't see his Tweet being that inflammatory...it would have made more sense to suspend him for the bird only than for the bird and the Tweet. Not that a suspension for the bird makes any sense in the first place.
Bro is this the old Overwatch player Robwiz? Never thought I'd see him in the Valorant scene al these years later, let alone GC.
No it's the COD robwiz
i understand a fine, but a suspension FOR THE MOST IMPORTANT MATCH OF HIS LIFE?
Holy shit i feel stupid for giving riot so many props over valorant esports now
SR Benita's tweet just put this into more of a perspective. I feel so bad for them, this is the worst fucking outcome.
what tweet?
Sentinels won iceland w/o coach all g
Actual moronic decision. We've had T1 pro players do this after games and they haven't ever copped close to this punishment. Yet they wanna make the coach miss the Grand Finals.. nah.
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Clap Clap Clap. Thanks for ruining a great year of gamechangers riot. If G2 wins tomorrow everyone will side eye the title of the first ever Gamechangers Champions.
lmao? I get the C9 players were just bantering but like they literally shit talked Shopify all year. He flicks the bird for like 1 second and is suspended from grands??
I highly doubt the finals will get higher vierwership since the finals are at the same time as the first match of the World Cup. But yeah, this doesn’t help
also it’s like 4AM over there decent chance his ass is asleep rn LMFAOOO
Not defending the suspension, but do you not see the difference in tweeting on your own twitter vs an action on Riot's broadcast from a business perspective?
Even though I think what he did was kinda weird—the optics of a grown coach flipping off teenage girls, especially in a format like game changers isn't the best—suspension and a fine feel too excessive. They're obvs citing a direct rule that he breached, so he had to know, in some capacity, how to behave and the fallout of not following those rules.
That's gonna sting for a grand final tomorrow. It does seem a little excessive for a middle finger but he kept poking the bear with his tweets, pROBably regretting it a little bit now..
Yeah I feel like it’s obvious that this is the result of him poking the bear and being petulant on main. In which case it sucks for the SR players that this happened but, better to set the precedent now ahead of the franchise league. Just send a message to all the coaches. “Hey, you’re being held to a higher standard than the players because you’re supposed to set an example. If you poke the bear the bear will maul you with a suspension”. Everyone’s acting like he got banned over a middle finger.
Are they allowed another coach? Or are they just playing without one?
Absolutely horrible ruling imo. A fine is MORE than enough if you want to punish it. Was it maybe an extreme reaction in the moment? Sure. But there is shittalk constantly. Like, FPX wasn’t fined/suspended after their comments during the XSET FPX situation—nor should they have been. This has been made into a WAY bigger deal than it is.
Seems like the punishment is way to excessive imo
There's actually no way they suspended him for that lmfao
wow turns out you can't flip off the other team on camera, who knew?
Flipping the bird seems super mild to me. No idea why it's even being punished beyond maybe an apology
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way too severe of a punishment imo
if they have an analyst or assistant coach, maybe they can take the place of the suspended head coach and the head coach can relay info to them too? Thats maybe the best they can make out of the situation.
Absolute joke of a ruling. Valorante child game etc.
So many creative people working at Riot... Always finding new ways to be ridiculous.
Guild abusing the Viper Molly bug: I sleep
Suspension lmao. Such a shit decision, but honestly I kind of expected this from Riot.
I think my favorite thing about Val esports at the moment is all these attempts at making it rated G for little kids.
don't think we should be suspending people for flipping the bird but coaches talking shit is so cringe in esports man
as a fan of valorant, this ruling is disgraceful. just a big middle finger to the development of a great esport that could have great rivalries and great storylines.
another day another horseshit ruling from riot games, their refs are actually atrocious lmao
I am Rob's father, and I raised him right and taught him manners and how to be a man. I did not teach him to show middle finger. After this incident of his behavior recently, I have disowned him. He is no longer a son of mine. I must urge a boycott of Shopify Rebellion. Come home my boy.
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Suspended for the Grand Final?? What is Riot smoking??
I guarantee it would've been just a fine if he didn't give the passive aggressive tweet. Also the guy's a coach, they should be held to a higher standard
Anyone old-timers remember the time Riot fined C9 Hai for flipping someone off? Riot has a precedent here.
I mean if all he got was a fine this isnt following a precedent its imcreaaing on it...
There were multiple middle fingers in male Valorant as well, people are trolling riot with them under the tweet announcing the ruling. Riot are being soft and dumb as fuck. None of those were suspensions. Plus riot has the middle finger moment in their highlights video, it's fucking ridiculous.
soft, soft, SOFT, omg
Even though I thought his reaction was weird and out of place I don't think this is a fair punishment.
Insane decision. Overreaction.
Just fine him lmao 🤦♂️
G2s coach was literally in VC IGLing, T1s coach was text chatting comms, but rob flips the bird and he's suspended???
I was expecting just a fine. The non-apology on Twitter afterward probably didn't help.
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Yep. Knew it. And the unrepentant behavior/tweets is probably what sealed the deal on him getting suspended for tomorrow's grand finals. So stupid, he's hurt his team's chances to win.
bro what the fuck. A suspension is way too harsh. Imagine how bad he must feel if SR loses tomorrow.
Maybe they'll replay the game like the turret round.
Kinda harsh/an overreaction imo. Also kinda stupid because it'll impact the game tomorrow when it doesn't really warrant that
seems much too severe.
Which idiot in riot said to suspend him for the finals for showing the middle finger. Just give him the fine bruh
Suspend whoever made that decision
Same dogshit company that was going to have 4 groups with only 1 team qualifying to Playoffs in Masters Berlin.
Imma be down voted for this but it's immature and childish to give a middle finger to someone who is competing at a pro level no matter how much they trashtalk prior. Of course riot would punish this type of behavior.
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I don’t think anyone’s arguing that he shouldn’t have dealt with a punishment, just that a suspension is too far, should’ve just been a fine
Riot esports taking another L.
I love that he did it, and the punishment is likewise totally warranted by the league.
You're underestimating the coach's impact I think, SR wins a lot of rounds after their timeouts.
You're lost.
It would be weird if they didn't fine him and put him under a close eye but this is just silly.
So soft bruh fine the man and move on
Biggest L ive seen this whole month
This is an absurd ruling. Suspending him for finals is a wild move. A fine sure, but suspending him for champs for a middle finger?
Wish both teams can walkout to boycott the ruling tomorrow. Its unfair the SR girls have to suffer because of this. If he walked up to C9's faces or threatened them and did it, it would make more sense but JUST A GESTURE AND FOR THE GRAND FINALS UR INSANEEEEE
If they had any integrity they'd boycott. Fuck this shit. I want to see two teams at their best in the grand finals, not a title with an asterisk next to it.
Wait so the grand finals gets basically decided off a middle finger GJ rito
GC is fucking clown fiesta. I am done.
boycott this shitty ass esports till they change how the ruling works
Then we'll be boycotting till the heat death of the universe. Arbitrary rulings based upon optics/how offended riot feels has always been the norm when it comes to riot e-sports.
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There is barely any Cod scene anyway.
nah this is a joke
Imagine if this ruling happened at VCT2022. No way the fans or players would have let it fly.
Overreaction just fine him for x amount of money
nobody knows what he did ?
silly af
LMAOOOOOO
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people use NFL or NBA as examples but they are ignoring that those are grown ass people, in this case young people are involved. it would be more appropriate to use examples of this happening in the baseball little league or it's similar for the rest of the sports
Very very lame tbh
Good. Funny from a third party perspective? Yes. Wildly unprofessional and antithetical to everything the GameChangers circuit stands for? Also yes.
To be fair, it was a guy coach who did it to a team of females…feels wrong especially in this tournament
Common L
Amount of false narratives being exposed around this is hilarious.
Riot devs would poop their pampers if they were in the FGC. Btw I'm now certain Riot devs parse the subreddit cause every action is made after a meme post gets popular. If you see this, John Riot, you suck
Can't wait to see what happens when Project L releases and we get face to face confrontations at LANs.
Excessive
This is some bullshit. It's the grand finals and they're already underdogs. Hope the girls can put up a good showing anyways
A bunch of losers defending the coach, I guess it does reflect most of the Valorant player base so I shouldn't be surprised so many people are defending this type of behavior that shouldn't exist in any sport, period.
I wonder how much G2 paid Riot... 🧐
lol cringe
Oh no, now you've giving NA another excuse when they lose
Wait until they realise how we talk in ranked.