How can people "only afford fast food" if fast food is more expensive than doing groceries?

  1. You're right that it is cheaper overall to buy groceries than to eat out (whether it's fast food or not). And people who say that they can only afford fast food are generally using a kind of short hand to describe that it's easier get fast food than go the grocery route. But it's easier for interesting reasons.

  2. To add to this, many people living in poverty live in food deserts, where there are no stores that sell fresh food. In this circumstance they would need to travel to a grocery store far enough away that the cost just to get there and back would be prohibitive.

  3. Food (with some exceptions) can be convenient, inexpensive, and healthy. The challenge is that most food only checks 2 outta 3 of those boxes.

  4. There's also the issue of buying food to feed one person. Most ingredients aren't sold in quantities to make only one serving, and what's left of that pound of hamburger might go bad before you feel like having a hamburger for dinner three more times. People who buys groceries for only one person usually end up buying pre-made single entrees, either canned or frozen. It's still cheaper than fast food, but often doesn't taste better.

  5. The lack of time and energy was one of the big reasons why I ate so much crap over the years. I’d come home exhausted and hungry with no energy to cook. Which made me kinda depressed because I love to cook

  6. Great write up! I actually used to work as a prep cook in restaurant and have fallen into the habit of microwave dinners for pretty much all of these reasons. Even while working there.

  7. My wife and I make just under $200,000 per year and we eat fast food all the time. I don't think it's just people living in poverty that make these choices.

  8. Honestly it can just be cheaper too. I live in a low COL area and those 1.50 mcdoubles are still the cheapest way to get meat. I could...what? Eat a can of beans for dinner? Sure. But if I'm getting even chicken or ground beef it's cheaper to just stop and get the fast food. Or the double cheeseburger and fries for 3 bucks deal they had a while back. If I want breakfast that has protein and will fill kids up on the way to school 2 for 2 mcgriddles can't be beat. I might be able to give them some cheerios or something but for something that will have them full till lunch? This is it.

  9. Also if people don’t know how to cook it’s probably because they were never taught because their parents didn’t cook. Unless there is some education on how to cook somewhere along the line their children won’t know how to cook and so on. I was amazed when I watched some show with Jamie Oliver going around poor areas of the UK and USA and a lot of the kids had never even SEEN a vegetable let alone cooked with one.

  10. Also there's spoilage for small families or single people. A simple example are hotdogs and hotdog buns. A single person can't buy in bulk and so will end up with extra hotdogs. They might not want the spare hotdogs without a bun so those hotdogs will eventually spoil and have to be thrown out.

  11. I’ve lived in poverty and my parents all know these. However, they made sure that while they were addressing the immediate problems, they also made the stride to invest in the basic kitchen stuff. That way they can cook and not feed off stupid food forever. It’s all a matter of priority

  12. Wow. Succinct and comprehensive. I hope everyone reads this comment so they understand a little better the full scope of what's going on.

  13. Thank you for saying this. People tend to often forget how much of an investment of time and energy it takes to cook. It's not as simple as comparing the price of a fast food meal and the raw ingredients of a home cooked meal.

  14. Thank you for this! Seriously, I am going to refer to this answer when the topic pops up in future conversations. And maybe in a practical way in my own life when feeling overwhelmed.

  15. As someone who works out a lot, I had to learn meal prepping techniques to keep up with the calorie intake my body needs. Meal prepping is the way to go, ain’t no body got the free time or money to be cooking a different exquisite meal nightly after work

  16. Plusss I don't really have anything to cook with. Yeah I have an oven, stove, microwave, toaster oven, but not really any pots, pans, etc. So, usually just microwave meals or fast food. Sad life I know

  17. If I only have $6, groceries aren’t going to be a feasible purchase (especially if my gas is turned off, don’t have pots and pans, fridge has no power etc…) but Taco Bell has bean burritos and I can use the drink dispenser to take one to go as well. Been there, it is tough to climb out of without support or family.

  18. Be aware that dried. beans grow 3x in size. When you pick up that 1 dollar bag of beans in the store, imagine you are getting 3 of them

  19. 1 lb of spaghetti and 1 can of spaghetti sauce and you have a days worth of spaghetti with money to spare my friend

  20. You're 100% right. Cooking for one person is a total shit storm. I struggled with that for 20 years of my life. Cooking for three people in the last 5 years has been a breeze. We spend less, eat better food, and if you're lucky you get to have some positive family time every day.

  21. And if you often don’t have $60 in you pocket, but you only have $10 guess what you are eating?

  22. My step mom was actually mentioning this the other day, she said they wasted so much food once they became empty nesters while she adapted to cooking for 2 all the time. For a while they had all 4 kids living with them, plus friends and boyfriends coming around, etc. I was like you should of told me, I have 2 boys with black holes where their stomachs should be, I would of taken any extras 😂

  23. That's the thing though. You may not be able to cook one hamburger for that, but you can most definitely cook one meal. Further, having been on a very tight budget more than once in my life (and far from the most extravagant budget currently), I have a hard time wrapping my head around somebody working with that little being able to afford $10 a meal on any kind of regular basis.

  24. I agree 100% with your premise and I was sure I'd land at the $20 mark, but was at Walmart today and decided to take you up on the challenge out of curiosity. Nothing was on discount or clearance.

  25. It's cheaper to cook not because you can make every meal for less but because you can restrict yourself to very cheap stuff.

  26. I understand what you're trying to say, and given that I don't know what things cost where you live, I can't say this with that much confidence... But...

  27. Where do you live that it's that expensive? I can easily make a hamburger with all the ingredients for $1.5-2... Why does it matter you're only one person? Either make several burgers for yourself and eat during the week, or make something else with the leftover ingredients. You're making an issue of something that is completely normal and most people can handle without food waste

  28. This 💯, no other fast food place offers those kinds of deals. I honestly get frustrated by people who go to McD’s and don’t use the app. Also, save your receipts cuz they usually offer you a free QP with cheese if you fill out a quick survey.

  29. A. Buying groceries rarely consists of buying the exact amount of ingredients. You pay extra for ingredients you don't need right now. This is often an extra expense. If you have $9 right now for supper tonight, you don't have enough to get everything you need to make a meal... but you do have enough to feed a family at a fast food place.

  30. Is there really such a small difference in cost between take out and frozen food in the US? In my country frozen food is so much cheaper then take away. For example I've just checked and 30 nuggets are $2. McDonald's would be 15 or so. Or for example a frozen pizza is 1 - 2 euros, take out for same size would be 10 euro.

  31. This is the answer I was looking for. What you have in your wallet or account that day determines what you can do. You can’t save up for pots and pans and ingredients when you have to spend what you have to feed yourself/your family each day.

  32. Came here to say the first one. I don’t care if the recipe says it’s 30 cents per serving, a pound of beef is still $5 if I’m lucky, and that’s only one ingredient.

  33. Yes to everything! People seem to ignore that a lot goes into cooking vs take out. It's not just the money, but all these other factors you listed.

  34. Absolutely. Some people are living day to day, as in they only have the money they got that day and the next day is a new hustle to get enough money to eat again. Others have $8 per day or less after bills come out of their paycheck. A burger and fries at mcdonalds ends up costing less than going to the store (gas), buying beef, bread, ketchup or lettuce, etc. and that is with no side dish or anything. Plus, you already had to pay for the equipment to make the meal and have electric on, which unfortunately some people often get it shut off.

  35. In the USA there were many districts , of course the poorer ones, where you simply can not buy groceries. But there are fast food places. So if you do not have a car, that is where you need to eat

  36. Fast food is pretty cheap. While you can go to places that have expensive fast food it's generally available at a cheaper price than groceries.

  37. This! A lot of folks are assuming that the poor order the same way as middle class at a fast food restaurant. It’s all dollar / value menu and drink water. Not 8, 10, or 12 dollar combos. BOGO coupons for a “big” sandwich or a free fries is jackpot.

  38. Jack in the Box for many years: two tacos and a chicken sandwich add tomato = 2.12 sometimes 2.17 if the location charged for the tomato

  39. "Would it not be better if they spent more money on wholesome things like oranges and wholemeal bread or if they even, like the writer of the letter to the New Statesman, saved on fuel and ate their carrots raw? Yes, it would, but the point is that no ordinary human being is ever going to do such a thing. The ordinary human being would sooner starve than live on brown bread and raw carrots. And the peculiar evil is this, that the less money you have, the less inclined you feel to spend it on wholesome food. A millionaire may enjoy breakfasting off orange juice and Ryvita biscuits; an unemployed man doesn't. Here the tendency of which I spoke at the end of the last chapter comes into play. When you are unemployed, which is to say when you are underfed, harassed, bored, and miserable, you don't want to eat dull wholesome food. You want something a little bit 'tasty'. There is always some cheaply pleasant thing to tempt you."

  40. In addition to some of the great answers so far, people affected by poverty are also more likely to live in a food desert: where there are few grocery stores and the only options in the area are convenience stores and fast food. This distance can increase the time and money cost to acquire groceries just enough to put it out of reach.

  41. Not true, I work in a inner city area and there is grocery stores easily within reach. The problem is there are even more fish and chicken spots with drive throughs, I think it’s more lack of education on nutrition than anything plus if your a single mom trying to hold it down everyday by yourself it’s hard to make yourself cook.

  42. If you live paycheck to paycheck and gave limited food money available you want the most “bang for your buck”. In the past, my budget has been so tight to have only $20-25 per week left after rent and electricity for food. Two or three dollar-menu fast food items give the most calories, fat, and carbs per dollar. That will fill your belly to work an 8-10 hour shift better than $2-3 of groceries.

  43. I tried making fried rice and orange chicken last week. Market bill was over $while a bowl from the Chinese restaurant close to my house is $8. Theirs taste better(though it might not be healthier). I probably got 3-4 servings out of it.also Restaurants have the comparative advantage because they can buy in bulk and have mastered the flavors.

  44. I had no idea how to cook for most of my life outside of pizzas in the oven or ground beef on the stove. Some people were never taught how to cook for themselves so they eat fast food.

  45. I absolutely love to cook. But i have a tiny apartment (for 5 people) and 3 kids. I can't take 2 babies and a six year old shopping and expect to a) stay on budget and b) spend less than 3 hours in the store.

  46. When I was stuck in this position, I had 2 jobs, but was supporting my drunk, jobless brother and his 13yo son. I have always been food/health conscious, and cooked as often as possible. But, when you start your day at 6am and come back from job 2 at 6 or 7pm knowing your nephew needs food and help with his homework, and tomorrow it’s the same, it’s not humanly possible to accomplish this at a reasonable hour. Sometimes you know that the closest grocery store is the one with the smashed/wilted options, the screaming babies, and the longest lines (because management sent grocery staff home at 7 to keep numbers down). There’s no “Fresh-e” next door, just Taco Hell or Fake-a-burger…at least Fake-a-burger will put a smile on nephew’s face…so you do it.

  47. I'll use Terry Pratchett's boot theory. A rich man can buy a nice pair of boots, boots that will last him the rest of his life, for $100. But the poor man, who never has more than $50 at a time, has to buy the cheap boots for $20, even though the soles are made of cardboard. These boots will also give out within a month or so, prompting the poor man to shell out another $20, over and over, whenever his boots start to go. The rich man won't have to buy another pair of boots for a while, but the poor man has to keep buying cheap boots (in order to keep working), and ends up spending hundreds on replacements.

  48. Part of the challenge now is I can go to the grocery store, take a hand basket, fill it, and have $120 worth of food in there. When I was a kid, when my parents went to the grocery store, $120 would literally fill two carts to overflowing, two carts, piled as high as they'd carry. That was $120 35 years ago. Today, I can hold $120 in my hand.

  49. Yes, that's called inflation and is perfectly normal. $120 in 1987 is equivalent to $312.86 in 2022 dollars.

  50. Yeah my wife and I have this problem in our relationship (not so much of a problem, because it's not something we argue over, but still).

  51. Dude your summary of knife skills is better than 95% of the nonsense I see on Reddit. Even using the proper Peppin knife against the knuckles at all times safety technique which is the proper way (fight me). Cheers, it's not hard to get decent at cooking fast, it's just something people have a mental block against as far as picking up and investing time in. Yet they'll watch car repair YouTubes all day and waste their time changing their oil. Nuts.

  52. My meals are either frozen dinners, Sonic cheeseburgers combo meals, Dominoes Pizza and hoagie sandwiches I make myself. I can't cook, tied to follow a recipe once and I ended up wasting so much food and ingredients on a failed meal I couldn't eat because it tasted like a cow pie.

  53. You can cook. Google a recipe with the word ' 'easy' in front of it - 'easy chicken recipe', for example, and you'll get something appropriate for a beginner.

  54. Go to your nearest grocery store and buy the refrigerated/frozen boneless chicken breasts, along with a few spices (salt, pepper, any others that look appetizing). Preheat your oven to 425 and while it's heating, slather the chicken breasts in olive oil and then sprinkle the spices on them (both sides). Stick a meat thermometer in the thickest one and then put all that in the oven.

  55. Fat and sugar (very common flavor enhancing ingredients) literally are addictive. Sugar in particular is very much so.

  56. Also to note: groceries to plan meals ahead can cost more money upfront, even if it's cheaper in the long-run. To plan my meals this week for dinner, it cost nearly $150. I can make several meals and eat left overs for the week, but that's a lot more upfront than a $15 meal somewhere that might last you two meals if you save some.

  57. Also they don't have the money to stock up on sales. Like I went the other day to get groceries and as an example found tomato soup on sale for 50 cents a can, I bought a case of them cause they last forever and were cheap. A person going in living paycheck to paycheck can only afford 1 can, maybe 2. Next pay when they need another can they may be regular priced at $1. And that's smaller items. Bigger ticket items add up even more, like when I found ground beef a month ago for a little more than half the regular price but it was sold in bulk of 5 lbs a pack, I bought 3 packs (so 15 lbs), got home, split it up and sealed them into those individual bags that you can remove the air from and put them in my freezer. A person living paycheck to paycheck may not even be able to afford a single pack since it was only those large packs on sale and even if they could, do they even have a freezer large enough to hold it all on top of anything else? I've been there, yes I'm comfortable enough now to not have to worry about my next meal, but I have been there where I had to search couch cushions for change for a 79 cent box of Mac and cheese that could be enough for 2 meals if you stretch it out.

  58. This does assume you put it all to good use. If you were to take me for example, I have ADHD and depression. Good combo. It means that I'll buy shit with great good intention and not use it and go eat a burger because either it's gone bad or I cannot cope with all the steps involved with making a proper meal. Then, I'm just cooking for one. So, that gets crazy expensive buying all these different meals because well, I need all the things but won't eat them before they go bad. If I'm having a depressive episode, it's that. My ADHD is unmedicated so that's a fuckin crapshoot if i can even make myself make something other than peanut butter on a spoon. So I try to stick to The One True Meal. Basically, I buy what I'd buy for one meal but it's enough for the week because there's just me. So I eat the same thing every single day. There's The One True Breakfast and The One True Dinner. Boring AS HELL. But food. And I usually just eat one actual meal because that's easier, so math-wise, the $10 burger might come out to what I'd have spent on that day's groceries. Yes, I'm a disaster.

  59. Time and transportation is definitely major factors. Where I live; I have one grocery store that’s about 5 mins away. The next closest one is about an hour. I have no access to fast food in a reasonable distance(hour away) so it forces me to prepare ahead and cook my meals. I can spend about $15 and have enough salad and extras in it(cheese, olives, etc) for it to last a week. I’ve actually saved money by living somewhat remote.

  60. I am qualified to answer this question. As a young man I was on the road with a rock band. We didn’t make a lot of money. I’ll never forget getting to Thursday and I had $5 left and no one in the band had any money to loan me. Literally nothing. We didn’t get paid til Sunday & there were no advances.

  61. If you download the McDonald’s app they surprisingly hook you up a lot! It’s usually bogo on Big Macs and QP with cheese.

  62. I was raised very poor- fried bologna sandwiches for dinner one night, a scrambled egg the next, cinnamon toast the next, a hotdog on regular bread the next- you get the point.

  63. Some people are homeless. Some people are living in their cars. Some people can only afford to rent a room and don't have a kitchen. Some people can't afford kitchenware.

  64. Cooking at home requires you to already have a pantry of staple items. A meal is cheap if you already have the oil, spices, flour, sugar etc needed to supplement the meat and veg. If you hav euro buy every single thing needed to make something. (Including the pots and pans) it is suddenly not cheap at all and $6-10 per meal at fast food is suddenly a lot cheaper.

  65. My sister says she can't get groceries because she doesn't have a car; so I assume that is a big part of it for a lot of people.

  66. I was feeding myself and 2 kids on tip money. $5 would get us each a cheeseburger and then they split a fry too. School fed them the other 2 meals of the day and I just got used to eating once a day.

  67. Not being able to afford it involves two things: money, and time. It's more expensive monetarily, but it costs more time to get groceries and prepare meals.

  68. tbh i don’t think there is a good reason. I’m a broke AF college student and I make all my own meals. Haven’t had fast food in like a year. Lotta oatmeal n pasta. if you can afford fast food, you can afford to cook. i think the only real barrier is people’s energy levels. Cooking can be exhausting at times. even if you don’t wanna cook though, you don’t need fast food. just eat cereal. or a sandwich. i think the real reason is habit. you just fall into that lifestyle and don’t realize you can get out of it. it’s not laziness exactly like some people are saying, maybe closer to ignorance? but not in a demeaning way? idk, i just know that i am very much poor and i manage to do it.

  69. Time. When I was living paycheck to paycheck I was also working 40-50 hours a week plus two side hustles with no car. Some weeks I would only be in my apartment to sleep and I would eat all of my food on the go.

  70. Thank you everyone who answered this question with thought and compassion. A similar question popped up in the comments of another post a while ago, I replied similarly, but everyone else replied saying "haha those are all just excuses if they WANTED to eat better they COULD" I have a bit more faith in humanity now.

  71. Every fast food place I know has a $1 menu. You can’t feed yourself at a grocery store for just a few dollars and if that’s all you have in your bank account $1 menu it is.

  72. Well once the recession hits in full force, I suspect many people are going to rediscover the lost art of cooking their own food.

  73. People who often eat fast food, have just developed incredibly bad appetites for healthy food. Possibly because they were never exposed to it and grew up with crappy fast food, but that is what they eat.. I know a number of people that fall into this category that will eat the most horrible stuff on the road and even when presented with a healthier alternative, are not interested. Cheap greasy food with lots of salt and spices is something you become addicted to. Good eating is a learn to behavior and of course does not have to be expensive. You can live on Greens, eggs, healthy beans occasional chicken occasional fish and a number of other things for the same amount of money that you spend at a fast food joint. I've watched the numbers end kept track on my end just to prove the point

  74. Because most people can't cook or figure out how to take care of themselves beyond ordering pizza. I've lived on $800 a month for a long time and didn't lose any weight. Now I make over $5k a month and my diet has barely changed

  75. There’s this deal like every day at McDonald’s to get a bacon egg and cheese bagel, sometimes a big mac, for free with purchase of a dollar, so I get a bottle of water for 1.40 and a free sandwich for less than I could make a sandwich at home 🤷‍♂️

  76. I live in CT. I got Aldi for cheap vegetables and grains. I use Costco for meats and frozen, and some grains. Have a car, can travel. When younger I would bus across the city, but your trips are limited by what you can carry. Some bodegas in CT have fruit and vegetables and limited real groceries more expensive. Uber can be a big help and we have grocery delivery.

  77. It’s way more expense to buy fast food than doing groceries in the long run. But it’s super addicting. Especially if you experience constant high levels of stress and see cooking/cleaning as just another stressor. The convenience and time saved is worth more than the dollars saved. Long run thinking isn’t the first thing on someone’s mind when they’re worried.

  78. In addition to all the excellent points which have been made, clean, natural items in the grocery store are more expensive than zero nutrition white bread, cupcakes etc. My students worked on a project with headstart to develop easy post school snacks and small meals. They were astounded by how much grapes or apples, peanut butter etc. Can be

  79. When I was a supermarket cashier I was so tired after work that my legs would shake when I made dinner. And I already worked at the damn food store. So I imagine if I worked somewhere else it would have been even harder to make food.

  80. Because the ingredients, stove, knives, plates, forks, microwave, pans, measuring cups, utilities, internet connection/cookbook ain't free. It is overall cheaper, but only if you have the resources to cook ahead of time.

  81. On top of that, yes, buying big bags of rice and beans and frozen veggies and those Costco tubs of parsley and basil and whatever on sale in the meat department and freezing it is all very cost effective, every meal you can make out of that is the equivalent of like 2 bucks, but. You have to have the 100 to buy all that bulk in the first place. Yes each meal is functionally cheaper than a $5 burger but you have to have enough to hit that initial barrier. A lot of people don't have much at any one time, and waiting til they did have that much would mean going hungry. If you have $15 right now and you need food, even if ultimately rice and beans would be cheaper over all and you'd get more out of it you won't be able to buy much with what you have.

  82. Not gonna lie, when I’m trying to save a bit of money, I just use the McDonald’s app. They always have deals that aren’t available at the counter and you can basically get a sandwich, medium fries, and small drink for about $3.50.

  83. Time is of the essence. The healthier the food, the shorter the time period it lasts in the kitchen or refrigerator. Every time I try to eat “healthy,” I end up with rotted fruits and vegetables. It also makes no sense to me to spend 30-45 minutes doing food prep for a meal I will eat in 5-10 minutes when, instead, I could be getting other things done even while I wait on a frozen pizza to cook.

  84. There are several factors that you have to look at with this question, does a person have a place to keep food? I was homeless but had a minivan and lived in Florida so I had a place to store simple shelf stable items that didn’t need refrigeration, including shelf stable milk! I had no way to cook food other than cup noodles and tea because I could ask the wonderful people at my local coffee shop for hot water! So my go to was cereal with milk in the morning, pb&j sandwiches for lunch and if I had enough, I’d get a McDonald’s side salad, cheeseburger and a sweet tea for dinner which cost about 3$. I was lucky in that I had food stamps at the time so was able to afford the cup noodles, cereal, milk, bread, peanut butter, jelly and Maria cookies as a treat! (They were 69 cents for a packet and quite yummy!) If I hadn’t had my minivan, I would have never been able to make it as I couldn’t have kept the non perishable foodstuffs safe from rodents and insects! So you also have to consider what the person’s circumstances are!

  85. I feel the need to remind everyone who seems to have forgotten: instead of McDonald's you can buy a loaf of bread, a jar of peanut butter, and a couple bananas. This requires no cooking, no refrigeration, no pots and pans, no time, and no skill. Sure, if you literally only have $2 and no way of coming up with a few extra dollars and and no kitchen resources of any kind (you can still get a box of pasta and a jar of sauce for around $3, but for some reason we're assuming here that a stove and a pot and a spoon are inaccessible for some reason) then fast food might be your best option. But the "I only have $2 and the shirt on my back" scenario is the exception, not the norm. Are peanut butter sandwiches or spaghetti super exciting and tasty compared to fast food? No. Do they provide at least as much nutrition as a burger and fries loaded with salt, fat, and sugar? Yes. Now I will sit back and wait for all the "but I can't have bread or pasta because I'm on a low carb diet" and "I have to have meat or it's not really a meal" or "I get so bored of eating like that I can't take it anymore."

  86. I fed two growing boys home cooked meals out of a cooler and with using a wood stove for cooking and cleaning while also having a job. We had no running water or electricity. Where there’s a will there’s a way.

  87. its all part of the plan to keep the poor sick and fat, so that they have to buy medicine. its all one giant machine designed to keep rich people rich. that’s why.

  88. In addition to what's already been said by other commenters: where I live supermarkets usually have a selection of frozen processed fastfoodstuffs that's cheaper than going for what would be a homemade equivalent. The convenience of it already being mostly prepared adds to the appeal for people who have to manage their lives around scarcity. Like frozen french fries are by weight 30% cheaper than potatoes, and chicken nuggets cost less than half of a chicken breast by weight.

  89. For transparency’s sake, I love to cook at home. It’s fun and it makes me happy, but it is far from a perfect solution. Groceries run out so quickly, and it costs so much money to restock a kitchen of basic cooking essentials, turning what should be a meal worth a couple of cents into a $10 grocery trip. Every time I realize I need more vegetable oil or garlic, another piece of me dies.

  90. This is a good question and honestly it brings up the dollar menu for me when you can go to Taco Bell and get two burritos for four bucks I can't help but think I could go buy a pack of tortillas for like 2:30 and maybe a can of beans for like another dollar and then make it myself but you're literally only getting a bean burrito when you factor in buying everything tortillas beans making me seasoning cilantro tomatoes onions jalapenos cheese hot sauce it can run you maybe 40 50 bucks and that sounds like it so yeah you should just go to Taco Bell but then each burrito you make out of maybe a 20 pack of tortillas you could possibly make 20 solid burritos that are very large but the thing is is that it won't taste as good and it only doesn't taste as good as because it doesn't have the additives added to it that make you love it the reason you love Doritos is because they have a perfect ratio of additives mouthfeel texture the perfect amount of flavor that basically makes it addictive if there aren't addictive additives as well in the cheese powder it's all the extra things that you don't know about that make them better but not better for you then again I grew up really poor....

  91. It’s $4 for a 1 lb bag of grapes at Publix. It’s $4 for a burger nuggets fries and drink at Wendy’s. When confronted with what I choose for dinner I’m gonna choose the burger.

  92. Mainly they don't want to eat boring food. Check out some third-world countries, and you'll find people grilling up mashed-mosquito burgers with a grin.

  93. Those people are just coming up with excuses to be lazy. They can afford groceries if they can afford fast food every day. Hell bulk groceries are WAY cheaper, and WAY healthier than fast food every day. Fast food is anything but cheap these days.

  94. These jerkoffs on Reddit are something else. I went to Burger King because I had to drive out of state for a licensing test. The meal cost me 11.50. For that price I can buy enough ground beef for 4-5 meals. I make sausage and pancetta pasta for $25 bucks and it lasts eight meals.

  95. Its the same as when people say theyre too poor and are fat because they "have to eat fast food". Not related to decisions or quantity or anything.

  96. Food deserts are real. I go through a lot of small towns. Full sugar soda and processed foods are the ONLY options. Maybe there are bananas at the counter, but that is it. The fried food behind the counter is gross, JoJo’s (what the hell is a JoJo?), fried everything, etc.. To get real food, some people have to travel at least 30 miles. This is modern Oregon.

  97. You are mistaken. To get the amount of calories in a fast food meal from groceries there is truly no comparison. They have performed numerous peer reviewed studies and confirmed that eating healthy is more expensive.

  98. I've tried to figure this out myself. Where I live at least, even a moderate fast-food meal for one is now the best part of $10, which is far more expensive than an equivalent amount of groceries.

  99. I do cook mostly but I can imagine what a fair few people mean by this is "I can't afford to buy a 4 pack of chicken breasts when there's only 2 of us and 2 will end up in the bin as we don't have freezer space. Better to spend that same money on a small meal today and a small meal tomorrow, which will have to come from a fast food place as every damn grocery store seems to only cater for families"

  100. I've never understood this. Me and my wife often say "can we afford a takeaway tonight or should we cook"

  101. Put very simply, a meal for 1 person is oddly the same as a meal for 2 or 3, as food is sold for families, not for individuals. Because of this, for a single meal alone, it can be cheaper to get fast food.

  102. Depends on the country. In the US fast food is cheaper than groceries. In the EU groceries are about 2-3 times cheaper.

  103. Part of it is poorly educated people buying $1 burgers for them and their kids. It continually amazes me that our local McDonald’s seems like it’s always busy

  104. It's cheaper than eating in a regular restaurant, that's what they mean. (But what it really means is: "I blame someone else for being overweight.")

  105. They just lazy and oblivious to budgeting. People would rather eat overpriced poison than cook themselves and know what the fucks in their food. Bunch of dumbasses.

  106. See my issue is that I can spend less money and feel more full from getting a burrito at a Mexican spot that tastes much better compared to places like McDonald's. Though fast food places are clutch for mornings or late nights where nothing else is open. I'm not cooking breakfast at 4am or making real food at midnight.

  107. It really not about the money, but about the convenience of not having to cook or prepare anything, and in most cases, it tastes better.

  108. Fast food is not worth it anymore. I would rather cook at home. I enjoy doing it and so does my wife. Alot cheaper and better for you.

  109. On a related note, has nobody really come up with an idea for healthy fast food? I realize it would be expensive to keep ingredients fresh and buy fresh ingredients every day, but I feel like it would be doable with a large initial investment. Making healthy food really isn’t hard or difficult, it’s all about which ingredients are used. Like, dunno, a vegan fast food chain given how vegan is all the rage right now? With a lot of tasty and healthy sauces? Like I did work for a vegan restaurant once and I would get the leftovers for lunch and frankly I remember this radish-based sauce that was absolutely mind-blowing. Never got the recipe, but it was insanely good and tasty.

  110. Salad and go is a chain of fast food salads. Not sure where they have locations, but lots around me in dallas. They don’t have a dining room, drive through only. Faster service than a burger place.

  111. In the UK at the moment it's not just that the ingredients are expensive but also the gas and electricity used to cook the food costs too much. Some food banks are reporting people turning down food that needs to be cooked and opting for bread tinned tuna, cheese etc so they can make sandwiches and not have to turn the oven or microwave on.

  112. I didn’t have the best growing up, but we always had a home cooked meal. It was 3 of us, then my grandma moved in after my mom got sick. We rarely ate out because we couldn’t afford it. Breakfast was either oatmeal, grits, or cereal and milky scrambled eggs (thin it out to stretch it) and sometimes “bacon” from ground meat. My mom/grandma would only get protein from the meat market because they had the combination specials. It was mostly liver, chicken drums and wings, cold cuts and pork chops, ground meat, sausage, and pickled meat. Veggies was always from a can except for collard greens and cabbage (we only had these for holidays). The only fruit we would get is apples and bananas, sometimes oranges and a watermelon (not all at once tho). And a whole lotta rice and beans (red, white, butter, black eye peas). Rice was eaten everyday! Cheese was “government cheese”, that big ass block lol. The cheapest bread we could find, usually the day old bread from the bakery. And we made groceries once a month. Growing up in the South, eating out was a luxury.

  113. 4 chicken breasts to a lb. raw on average, per search engine. I can get 12 meals using this chicken protein. Add some vegetables, pasta salad and you're eating healthy & tasty. Well worth the effort in the long run.

  114. Groceries require equipment to prepare them into meals, a place in which to prepare the meals, and refrigeration to keep the prepared meals from decomposing. All of these things, and equipped kitchen, and a house or apartment are expensive.

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