For the last fucking time, this is not Daniel Jones' fault. He (and Saquon) needs blockers and guys who can catch the damn ball. Bellinger being back helps, Hodgins is helping out when he can. We also need healthy guys in the defensive backfield who can cover and it would be a nice bonus if they could tackle
There were multiple times on drives where Jones did not feel the pressure AT ALL after holding the ball for 3, 4 or 5 seconds. No offensive line holds up that long. He is missing open check downs and not even looking at all his reads. His pocket reads/decision making is WAY too slow. He’s not the guy, pal. He’ll be an above average backup in the future and I’m happy for him.
Beating ourselves, yet again. That drop by Slayton hurt. If Moreau holds onto that INT, the game would’ve been over. For those that are bashing on the coaching and play calling, you forget the level of talent we have on the field. Coaching only takes you so far.
Coaching was the problem with going deep again to Slayton on 2nd down after the drop. They should have ran something preparing for a shorter 3rd down. Instead it became 3rd and long.
Dropped several interceptions today. Heineke slinging it with no regard for the defense because again and again the Giants DBs can't seem to hang onto the ball. Our WRs have the same problem lol but it continues to baffle me how guys who play football their entire lives can't catch a ball that hits them in both hands.
Rough one, but y'all need to strap in because the rest of our schedule is fucking stacked. I don't expect a win against anyone except MAYBE the Colts, and that's a big fucking maybe.
Or maybe he's more concerned that our OL isn't holding up on the interior and we don't have guys who can get open? They let Jones air it out several times today, one of them resulted in a huge gain and another a horrific drop by our "#1" . Fact is Feliciano, Glowinski and Gates were turnstiles in pass protection against WAS fearsome DL, and the Giants don't have the pieces outside to consistently punish. They tried and Slayton dropped a perfectly thrown ball that hit both his hands. Hodgins and James aren't getting open consistently by the time the ball needs to come out of DJs hands.
You know we’re gonna get abused by the Eagles next week and probably lose the week after with the Commies coming off a bye. 7-6-1 sounds like a pretty lame team to me
I guess it’s not the worst case scenario, but this was a very winnable game we let slip from bad play calling and mistakes. Whoever flexed and gave us the taunting penalty should be benched.
Feliciano doesn't commit a dumbass penalty or Slayton catches that deep shot and we're walking away with a win. Two self-inflicted errors really cost us. Oh well, we'll see them in 2 weeks.
Lotta guys returned from injury today, especially on offense. Other than Bredeson (and Ezudu who might not even start at full strength) this is the offensive toolbox. The defense was missing X and Adoree, but we were far more healthy today than we had been in previous weeks.
This one is on the offensive coaching. We had multiple chances to put Washington to the sword and we never took them. Offensive playcalling been frustrating the last few weeks tbh. We're not the most talented but it's been overly conservative to almost Garrett levels at points.
What about today's performance has you blaming the QB? He made plays to put the team in position to win the game but his teammates (horrific penalty by Feliciano, terrible drop from Slayton) either didn't execute at key moments or made brain melting mistakes. Jones played very well despite the IOL being a turnstile every dropback and despite lacking any semblance of a reliable weapon to throw to. .
I would've rather them lose to be honest. What a pussy way to handle this game. Totally goes against Daboll's philosophy as well. So he comes off as a huge hypocrite today.
I think this damages us, especially given we have the toughest remaining schedule of any team. We needed the two wins against Washington to cement a spot. Now we're dependent on how others teams finish.
First time this season I’ve been genuinely disappointed with the coaching. Had so many opportunities to put it away and didn’t. This shows how far off the Giants are. They score 20 points and just hit a wall.
Three things killed us today: Feliciano's penalty, our inability to cover their receivers, and poor coaching in terms of time management and playcalling. That is all.
Seriously. WR first round - Quentin Johnston would be a dream come true but prob. Won't happen so we'll have to settle for a guy like Jordan Addison or Jaxson Smith-Njigba. Then we better go CB 2nd rd.
That was the wierdest damn thing Ive seen an NFL CENTER do. On a passing play no less. He had to run like 15 yards up field after the play to then flex in front of 4 DBs? wtf. At least flex when you pancake block some DT on a running play.
Daboll is really looking shaky these last few weeks. He’s allowing this to happen. He’s allowing the game flow to be determined by Kafka or he’s doing it himself. Either way it’s not working and it’s obvious.
Big yikes on Daboll and Kafka. Awful time management, awful play calls, way too conservative after the half. It's like they were playing for the tie the entire time.
It's not, but sure feels like it is. Being a in division tie against the team we are fighting with for a playoff spot actually helps compared to anyone else.
What a badly coached game from us. We got no points in like 30 minutes wtf Is that. We were up 7 forever ans could not make it two scores. If this game is the difference in us making the playoffs or not is such a giants way to go out.
What a disaster. Anyone that has anything positive to say about this fucking train wreck of a game is obviously better medicated than I am. This team needs to figure it the fuck out.
Post game thread
We have so many offensive coordinators who are also giants fans in here!
76 should be cutt
Oline was not good today. Never ending project.
Ganó sucks fuck him
How much did you lose?
He’s literally one of the best kickers in the league. Get fucked
The second deep attempt at the end of regulation was dumb.
We didn’t go for the win. We played not to lose
Did the defender tip that kick? I can't imagine Gano not having the leg to hit a 58 yarder.
It’s 30 degrees outside
Why is overtime only 10 mins?
For the last fucking time, this is not Daniel Jones' fault. He (and Saquon) needs blockers and guys who can catch the damn ball. Bellinger being back helps, Hodgins is helping out when he can. We also need healthy guys in the defensive backfield who can cover and it would be a nice bonus if they could tackle
You can’t use logic and reason with fanatics …
There were multiple times on drives where Jones did not feel the pressure AT ALL after holding the ball for 3, 4 or 5 seconds. No offensive line holds up that long. He is missing open check downs and not even looking at all his reads. His pocket reads/decision making is WAY too slow. He’s not the guy, pal. He’ll be an above average backup in the future and I’m happy for him.
At least the Falcons lost today
Beating ourselves, yet again. That drop by Slayton hurt. If Moreau holds onto that INT, the game would’ve been over. For those that are bashing on the coaching and play calling, you forget the level of talent we have on the field. Coaching only takes you so far.
Coaching was the problem with going deep again to Slayton on 2nd down after the drop. They should have ran something preparing for a shorter 3rd down. Instead it became 3rd and long.
Dropped several interceptions today. Heineke slinging it with no regard for the defense because again and again the Giants DBs can't seem to hang onto the ball. Our WRs have the same problem lol but it continues to baffle me how guys who play football their entire lives can't catch a ball that hits them in both hands.
Tough catch to make. I don’t think it was a drop
Awful play calling
Man, I’m not even mad at Gano. Our offence could have put the game away about a half dozen times and chose to play like clowns instead.
Next time vs Washington will probably determine WC depending on if we handle our business next week.
I'd rather lose.
Nah cause if we lost we would be out of the playoffs for sure but since it’s a tie we still have a chance
I think we did lol
Rough one, but y'all need to strap in because the rest of our schedule is fucking stacked. I don't expect a win against anyone except MAYBE the Colts, and that's a big fucking maybe.
We just tied the commanders why don’t we have a chance to beat them in two weeks?
I prepared myself after we barely beat Houston
What the hell did we all just witness? This pretty much confirms Daniel Jones isn't viewed as a franchise QB here.
I believe Daboll commended Jones on his game. He had fire and brimstone for Feliciano though.
Or maybe he's more concerned that our OL isn't holding up on the interior and we don't have guys who can get open? They let Jones air it out several times today, one of them resulted in a huge gain and another a horrific drop by our "#1" . Fact is Feliciano, Glowinski and Gates were turnstiles in pass protection against WAS fearsome DL, and the Giants don't have the pieces outside to consistently punish. They tried and Slayton dropped a perfectly thrown ball that hit both his hands. Hodgins and James aren't getting open consistently by the time the ball needs to come out of DJs hands.
Be honest. Your IQ was lower than your high school jersey number, wasn’t it.
And yet his completion percentage was perfect most of the day minus a spike. Makes no sense
Make it make sense
Feliciano. What the hell is that shit, and I hate taunting penalties. Also if thibs’ sack was just one yard more, that safety would’ve won us the game
Weakest taunting penalty. He fucking flexed
Awful offensive play calling in the 2nd half.
Why in the hell would we burn a Timeout when WAS ran a play out of bounds??
A fumble out of bounds does not stop the game clock.
Because our coaches are morons
Daboll and Kafka let Jones and offense down today other than Feliciano.
You know we’re gonna get abused by the Eagles next week and probably lose the week after with the Commies coming off a bye. 7-6-1 sounds like a pretty lame team to me
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Buddy I've got news for you about Toney...
We need to trade Graham Gabo for Kareem Hunt ASAP!
Man our fan base is bi polar as fuck. Some of you need therapy. Lol.
I guess it’s not the worst case scenario, but this was a very winnable game we let slip from bad play calling and mistakes. Whoever flexed and gave us the taunting penalty should be benched.
Feliciano doesn't commit a dumbass penalty or Slayton catches that deep shot and we're walking away with a win. Two self-inflicted errors really cost us. Oh well, we'll see them in 2 weeks.
If the queen had balls she'd be the king.
Fire Slayton into the sun
We tied using our practice squad and people are blaming the play calling lmao
Lotta guys returned from injury today, especially on offense. Other than Bredeson (and Ezudu who might not even start at full strength) this is the offensive toolbox. The defense was missing X and Adoree, but we were far more healthy today than we had been in previous weeks.
Yes? We had dozens of opportunities to put this game away. It’s a disgrace that we didn’t win this.
Fuck. We had so many opportunities to win.
This one is on the offensive coaching. We had multiple chances to put Washington to the sword and we never took them. Offensive playcalling been frustrating the last few weeks tbh. We're not the most talented but it's been overly conservative to almost Garrett levels at points.
I don’t like this tie we had like 9 chances to end it and stupid bullshit kept happening
I don’t care how thin the line is. Cut Feliciano. Get him the fuck off this team.
James is coming for us
We should have put this game away mid third quarter ffs hated this game
Jon Feliciano, remember the name
Well now everyone knows how tough he is. Fuck doing it by being a good offensive linemen, show the world that you can lose a game single handedly
Daboll was a fucking pussy today
I'm done with Jones and ready for a real QB.
What about today's performance has you blaming the QB? He made plays to put the team in position to win the game but his teammates (horrific penalty by Feliciano, terrible drop from Slayton) either didn't execute at key moments or made brain melting mistakes. Jones played very well despite the IOL being a turnstile every dropback and despite lacking any semblance of a reliable weapon to throw to. .
Feliciano and James kinda ruined both game winning drives he was putting together
He's the only reason we were even in this game clown
AGREED
Are you serious right now?! He played extremely well
We were lucky not to lose.
I would've rather them lose to be honest. What a pussy way to handle this game. Totally goes against Daboll's philosophy as well. So he comes off as a huge hypocrite today.
First Giants tie I've seen in my life live and I'm pissed off
I have never felt so old.
So does this tie help us in holding onto a Wild Card spot you think?
I think this damages us, especially given we have the toughest remaining schedule of any team. We needed the two wins against Washington to cement a spot. Now we're dependent on how others teams finish.
But we have to win our next two division games now
We’re still ahead of Washington for now but we needed this win. Now we’re gonna play both the eagles and a rested up commanders away
They count as a half win and loss. So now 9 may get it done. We need the Seahawks to lose at least 3 games now tho
Yes
So fast to show fuckin commercials they don't even show a replay. Idgaf about handshakes
Need a Seattle loss now
No copper kupp or Stafford only God can help us now
So uh, that missed flag on the spike for neutral zone infraction...would those extra yards have given Gano enough?
Nah, live it was pretty short
God damn it the nfl needs to change this overtime system its so awful, the ncaa does this shit way better
Well that was depressing
They needed to step on their throats in the 2nd half and failed to do so. A tie just feels, blegh.
needed that time out but honestly, that kick would have been short from 50 yards.
It was very weak. Very strange
How does this actually affect us in the playoff standings?
We stay put where we were before.
How does this affect Lebron’s legacy?
If only we had a competent player in the secondary who didn't break their hand on their bye week to help cover McLaurin
Damn boys I feel so, undeservedly neutral after this game I can't explain it
This is the personification of what a tie is. We’re all with ya buddy
So yeah I don't ever wanna see Feliciano on the field ever again
He’s horrible man
The two stupidest parts of the game bit us today. Unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and ties
First time this season I’ve been genuinely disappointed with the coaching. Had so many opportunities to put it away and didn’t. This shows how far off the Giants are. They score 20 points and just hit a wall.
Blame Feliciano not Daboll
Gross
Well, we didn’t lose… but that was one we really needed to WIN
So 2 wins gets us in and that was the case if we won anyway?
Three things killed us today: Feliciano's penalty, our inability to cover their receivers, and poor coaching in terms of time management and playcalling. That is all.
And going way off script for that final fourth quarter drive
We honestly didn't deserve to win that game.
Yes we did
At least when soccer ties you didn’t waste your entire afternoon
Because you didn’t watch the game?
Daboll soft as fuck
Ugh..... pain.
Wonder how short. I'd like to see another angle
Looked like it was easily 5 yards short.
Yeah it looked like it made it to me
Yeah can't believe that didn't have the distance
How about a replay?
If we don’t take a reciever in the first round I’m personally shitting on Joe schoens front lawn
Seriously. WR first round - Quentin Johnston would be a dream come true but prob. Won't happen so we'll have to settle for a guy like Jordan Addison or Jaxson Smith-Njigba. Then we better go CB 2nd rd.
I’m hoping for Rashee Rice out of SMU!
Lucky to tie.
that tie was mercy
We played like absolute pussies the entire game
That 3 and out to end regulation was fucking atrocious.
I mean Slayton dropped a 35 yard game sealing catch
LOL they threw it
Or how about when they ran into each other?
Slayton needed to catch that pass and we wouldn’t have even been in OT
I'll take the tie. So many moments I thought Washington would win
People in here are hilarious. Worst game of the season? The two games against Dallas and the Seahawks were better than this?
This has to be the Giants first tie in 25 years.
Since 97
If I’m in a room with Hitler, Putin and Jon Feliciano and I have a gun with 2 bullets, I’m shooting Feliciano twice.
Correct
That timeout was horrible
Can’t wait to hear the excuses made for this coward coaching staff
After the Slayton drop they should have went back to what was working to get a first down or kill time. Hate the deep pass in that situation.
Idk how to feel with this.
I feel nauseous.
What a fucking game.
Thank you defense
Play for 60 minutes, nothing changes in standings or anything because of a tie.
Idk why it isn’t a golden goal situation where the teams play until someone scores
Everyone here with at least half a brain at least knows that's on coaching and not Gano.
That 2nd timeout call was bad. We should have used it that last drive and stop the clock so we could have had one more play and get closer for a fg
Anyone who blames Gano for anything, our literal MVP, needs to be slapped.
I don't expect anyone but Justin Tucker to hit a 58 yd FG to win overtime
We should not have even been in overtime. Fuck
On the bright side, at least we won't go 0-6 in the division.
True
Being a Giants fan is infinite pain.
I guess that justifies the punt over the FG in the previous drive lmao
Neither team deserved a win
We suck fire everyone. Burn down the stadium. Trade Daboll for a bag of dicks.
Why bring the Cowboys into this?
Honestly fuck this sport
Tied to a taunting penalty. That is a first.
That was the wierdest damn thing Ive seen an NFL CENTER do. On a passing play no less. He had to run like 15 yards up field after the play to then flex in front of 4 DBs? wtf. At least flex when you pancake block some DT on a running play.
Daboll got some splaining to do
Daboll is really looking shaky these last few weeks. He’s allowing this to happen. He’s allowing the game flow to be determined by Kafka or he’s doing it himself. Either way it’s not working and it’s obvious.
You play to win the game….HELLO????
Giants had so many chances to win. Don't even deserve the tie.
Big yikes on Daboll and Kafka. Awful time management, awful play calls, way too conservative after the half. It's like they were playing for the tie the entire time.
They were up 20-13 and sealed the game with a first down past midfield to Slayton
That 3 and put where we doubled down to Slayton was suspect.
Except for the 3 and out to end regulation with 3 straight bombs….
Knew it was a matter of time until we started fucking up the season
NOOOOO
That is so anti-climatic it could restore virginity.
Better than a loss but I feel sick from not winning this. Offense really was horrible 4th quarter and cost them a win.
When is a tie a loss?
It's not, but sure feels like it is. Being a in division tie against the team we are fighting with for a playoff spot actually helps compared to anyone else.
If we don't come into next game with a better offensive plan then we deserve to miss playoffs.
Rollercoaster of emotions, holy shit. What a shit game for the Giants.
Dabs gotta get his shit together. Play to win? Tie? WIN? Tie? Tie? Win?
Yeah really disappointed by his play calling. Dude got soft. I’d rather lose then tie tbh
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What a badly coached game from us. We got no points in like 30 minutes wtf Is that. We were up 7 forever ans could not make it two scores. If this game is the difference in us making the playoffs or not is such a giants way to go out.
I fucking hate football… See you guys next week
Is this loss?
LMAO. Well played
Tie
Was there like a 60 mph gust in his face? How?
Sure yeah, the kicker list the game by not making a franchise record long FG
2 missed penalties to end the game. First interference and the second was defensive offsides. Terrible way to end the game
What a disaster. Anyone that has anything positive to say about this fucking train wreck of a game is obviously better medicated than I am. This team needs to figure it the fuck out.
Where does that leave us in the playoff hunt?
Exactly where we were prior
also wondering this
Jones gotta go eventually, he’s not special.
If you're expecting him to be the same type of special you are then I'm glad he's not.
It’s fucking hilarious after this game you come to that conclusion. It’s clear you people will never give him his due.
Well that was stupid.
Waste of time
We deserve every bit of this pain. The coaching staff was horrendous today. That was so avoidable. Honestly in shock