I hate that Iām probably jinxing this butā¦ā¦. Dustin porier never breaking his hand even though he has like a million striking wars in the cage is so damn impressive, and that includes some quick turns like his Garth into Eddie fights
Pretty sure Brian Ortega almost started a fight cageside last night and got escorted out. I was right below the nosebleeds and I'm pretty sure that was him
It was a really good fight, first 3 rounds were back and forth, there was a moment I thought Holland was gonna get the finish late in the 1st, and then Wonderboy just styled on him in the 4th with body shots and head kicks. I think Bisping hyped it up a little much, I wouldnāt call it a top 10 fight all time or anything but definitely a top 10 fight of the year, maybe top 5.
This fight most likely motivated him to read his opponents better. At 30ās still too young to call it quits and throw in the towel. He put up a great fight even hes been bested by someone nearing his 40s and retirement age.
I honestly respect holland for standing and banging with Stephen fucking Thompson. We all wanted to see a striking match between the two and thatās what we got.
Blocking head kicks with one hand over and over is not a good idea. I think those kicks fractured Kevin's hand / wrist. Then wonderboy noticed it, so kept spamming those left kicks along Kevin's upper body, knowing how bad they'd hurt to block, and if not blocked, how bad they'd hurt the the liver. Smart shit.
Ate a hundred billion kicks on his arms. An underrated thing you learn in muay thai/kickboxing is to kick the arms. Even if they're blocking, it fucking hurts after a while especially when they only block with one arm. X block is a life saver. Canelo attacked the arms of Callum Smith. Legit strategy.
Yeah, might be time to really commit to winning before entertaining too. He fought a hell of a fight but despite recent results, he's not shabby at all on the ground and should really mix that in against a guy like Wonderboy if/when winning is your #1 goal. He's got an amazing chin but each big shot he eats shortens that chain, and that's something you want to rely on when you're getting tagged in contender/championship fights years from now...not a 'fun' kickboxing match with Wonderboy after a loss. Or, he might not see a path to the title because WW is packed with grappling specialists at the top. Or, it's neither of those, lol. I'm glad it was stopped in-between...I really like Holland.
Now that it's clear that WB is never going to be champ in a division full of grapplers they should just feed him strikers. Conor, Jorge 2, Michel Pereira, Daniel Rodriguez...would be fireworks.
DC keeps trying to sell that Wonderboy should retire. He has taken minimal damage, he wonāt be champion, but the dude has some high profile wins in him if he is selective
Idk why they even would want to match Wonderboy up with grapplers at this point in his career. That should be the very last matchmaking options for him.
It's very rare for a fighter to retire after such a good performance. Too bad I see two more wrestlefucks and maybe a KO in WBs future. Not too many people will just let him stand up like Holland tonight.
Don't think that fight goes any differently than the first lol. Wonderboy looks like hasn't lost a step since the fought and I think Masvidal just gets pieced up against to a unanimous decision.
That was like a fight you'd see in a video game where neither of the guys know the grappling and takedown controls so they just go all striking, and then in the 4th, just spamming all the kicks lol
Thought about it this week a few times. I think he could, but it would be a longshot. Would LOVE to see it. Wonderboy taking the belt at 40-41 years old would be fucking BADASS and couldnāt happen to a better guy.
All champs have good ground game except Pereira. And that's just because he fought Adesanya, who has great TDD but no grappling. WB's TDD and grappling abilities are quite bad. Considering that, he couldn't be champ in almost any division.
crazy fight, UFC has some things to work out. they can have better more exciting fights with favorable match ups... they need to copy onefc, and quickly start the stand up only division with 4 oz gloves. we would have never seen such a display of kicks and karate.
Totally agreed. Although that would be an entirely new thing as one has muy thai and kickboxing but not a general stand up only division right ? I love that idea haha
It wasnāt until watching Holland fight Wonderboy that I realized how sloppy Hollandās hooks are. I can see how he broke his hand. Either from throwing or blocking
UFC should just manage both those guys with good matchmaking for maximum entertainment. I don't need to know who can outwrestle and I don't want to find out
Everyone giving the corner credit when they were probably ready to just throw Holland to the wolves again. Kevinās a smart dude, he said āget this shit off of meā meaning ātake off my wraps, Iām doneā and THEN they stopped the fight.
Wonderboy has list a little bit of speed, power at least from the sound looks the same. Kevin just has a meme chin. That 4th round he just wouldnt go down
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hell of a card to see for my first live UFC event, blessed.
I want holland to be good so bad but I think itās over
Lmao
He doesn't have the dawgggg in him
We just had an entire card of amazing fights for FREE. Meanwhile boxing had a PPV with Fury vs Chisora⦠and people wonder why boxing is dying.
The Fury card was ESPN +
So funny that he gave up dominate positions to meme only to be a panic wrestler by the 3rd and 4th rounds anyways.
I hate that Iām probably jinxing this butā¦ā¦. Dustin porier never breaking his hand even though he has like a million striking wars in the cage is so damn impressive, and that includes some quick turns like his Garth into Eddie fights
Pretty sure Brian Ortega almost started a fight cageside last night and got escorted out. I was right below the nosebleeds and I'm pretty sure that was him
Holland said on his IG story that he broke 3 knuckles. Wonder when weāll see him back.
Honestly would love if Wonderboy snuck into a title shot somehow
Thatās really not that fun of a fight. Leon would clinch and outgrapple the shit out of him. Heās not a dumb brawler like Kevin.
Off an unranked win and previous to that being shut out by Muhammad and burns? Lmao
I think Leon would wrestle with him to clinch rounds, Holland had takedowns that he purposely didnāt do anything with/finish
hell yeah wonderboy leon would b awesome
I can't believe Michael Johnson was less than a minute away from beating Josh Emmett and then got slept
i can believe it, its Michael Johnson
Great night of fights, awesome to see so many legends on one card
so is the post-fight conf video just mangled and not working tonight?
Wonderboy looked good but definitely a bit past his prime. Wish he could go out on this fight. It was a textbook Wonderboy performance.
I wonder how many fights left he has on his UFC deal, Wonderboy can still be a massive asset to Karate Combat
Nah heās still got 10 more years at least
glad to know his family was there he is good guy deserves it
Was the main event as good as the commentary made it sound? Could only listen to it Edit: missed the main event
It was a really good fight, first 3 rounds were back and forth, there was a moment I thought Holland was gonna get the finish late in the 1st, and then Wonderboy just styled on him in the 4th with body shots and head kicks. I think Bisping hyped it up a little much, I wouldnāt call it a top 10 fight all time or anything but definitely a top 10 fight of the year, maybe top 5.
Main event was top 5 foty
It was amazing at the Amway tonight
Yeah great card, extremely fun main event
High action and even higher fives
Go back for it. Do it
better :) Way better.
Every fight on the main card was a finish. All 7. Which canāt remember a time we had so many fights on main.
Great night of fights capped off by an amazing round 4 by wonderboy, very enjoy
Anyone have that crazy switch kick clipped?
That jumping switch kick was beautiful, as well as all of the hook kicks thrown! Would love to have someone post a clip!
nows the time for Wonderboy vs Usman. Winner gets Leon
Not even Wonderboy would want that fight.
Usman wrestles/foot stomps him into the next dimension, those kicks canāt land with that constant threat of the takedown
We just saw wonder boy become wonder man
I'm wonder dad and me and wonder mom are so proud
rush is a good band my favorite blessings
I miss the DOs Anjos stache heheeee
Anyone else getting checked for cancer after this card?
Ball checks and colonoscopies with the boyssssssssss
Yooo another shoutout to RDA! Fucking controlled the fight and put on a BJJ clinic
Iād bet wonderboy would have set the record for most heel strikes thrown/landed in a single bout if they kept records for it.
Depends if you count Usmans foot stomps in masvidal 1 of not
Imagine being 40 and fighting like you're on skates
This time he was on skates but next time heāll be left frozen, like Elsa.
Could wonderboy beat Leon
4-5 years ago, yes. Think Leon grapples him to a W if they fight today.
Leon wouldnāt hesitate to grapple the way Kevin gave up positions in the first few rounds
Probably not with Leon's grappling
If Edwards loses, him vs Thompson is banger
Yes agree
Idk if this has been asked but Is this the first time thereās been a finish in every single bout on a main card?
Santos vs Hill in august was 100% finishes (main card + prelims).
It's tied first with the 50 other times it has happened
Nah happened recently
Nah
Not me constantly refreshing Hollands Instagram to make sure he hasnt posted a retirement video.
Holland needs to retire. Just got beaten by a guy who was born during the Reagan presidency
This fight most likely motivated him to read his opponents better. At 30ās still too young to call it quits and throw in the towel. He put up a great fight even hes been bested by someone nearing his 40s and retirement age.
Me and Nancy will fuck you up
I think Till beats Du Plessis, if he makes it to the fight.
I honestly respect holland for standing and banging with Stephen fucking Thompson. We all wanted to see a striking match between the two and thatās what we got.
Bisping drunk already? WB already fought Till with some BS handicaps, and Till is now at 185
What handicaps?
Wonder Boy vs Masvidal 2?
why? that fight does nothing for either of them
That fight was way more fun than I thought it would be. Wonderboy clearly spent time praying at the Cro cop shrine this camp.
Kick-heavy fighters are some of my favorites
how to fight someone with a reach advantage 101
Wonderboy was sensational tonight. Would love to see a match up between him & Edwards
Edwards would wrestle him
If/once Darren Till loses next week, that's a good comeback fight for Holland.
Perfect comeback fight.
Khamzat took away any title hopes if Holland had any so I can see why he decided to throw down
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karyn bryant lispin like a mother fucker. she get invasalign? š¤·āāļø
I was thinking maybe she had a stroke or something. Definitely very noticible
This fight shows that UFC should introduce Kickboxing in 4oz gloves
Would be a lot better than Slap Fight Championship or whatever the fuck Dana's new money laundering thing is
What happened to Kevins hand/arm though? From blocking so many kicks or was he just gassed?
broke 3 knuckles in the first round when he blasted wonderboyās forehead
Blocking head kicks with one hand over and over is not a good idea. I think those kicks fractured Kevin's hand / wrist. Then wonderboy noticed it, so kept spamming those left kicks along Kevin's upper body, knowing how bad they'd hurt to block, and if not blocked, how bad they'd hurt the the liver. Smart shit.
Ate a hundred billion kicks on his arms. An underrated thing you learn in muay thai/kickboxing is to kick the arms. Even if they're blocking, it fucking hurts after a while especially when they only block with one arm. X block is a life saver. Canelo attacked the arms of Callum Smith. Legit strategy.
Pretty sure he either broke his hand or forearm
Hopefully this fight is the stepping stone to Holland becoming the new generations wonderboy after he retires lol
Yeah, might be time to really commit to winning before entertaining too. He fought a hell of a fight but despite recent results, he's not shabby at all on the ground and should really mix that in against a guy like Wonderboy if/when winning is your #1 goal. He's got an amazing chin but each big shot he eats shortens that chain, and that's something you want to rely on when you're getting tagged in contender/championship fights years from now...not a 'fun' kickboxing match with Wonderboy after a loss. Or, he might not see a path to the title because WW is packed with grappling specialists at the top. Or, it's neither of those, lol. I'm glad it was stopped in-between...I really like Holland.
Holland would've won if he didn't eat all those punches and kicks and landed more of his own offence
I've got no patience for these hot takes!
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I agree, if Holland didn't lose he would've won
He would've won if he didn't lose
Beautiful insight
Now that it's clear that WB is never going to be champ in a division full of grapplers they should just feed him strikers. Conor, Jorge 2, Michel Pereira, Daniel Rodriguez...would be fireworks.
jack della maddalena
Winner of Lawler Ponzinibbio
DC keeps trying to sell that Wonderboy should retire. He has taken minimal damage, he wonāt be champion, but the dude has some high profile wins in him if he is selective
I can see why DC would want him to retire while heās on top. It only takes one fight to be āone too manyā in this unforgiving game.
DC is just mad he cant get his legs up that high.
Does she have a lisp?
Only since after the fight.
Uhh Karyn Bryan has a lisp now?
Rampage Jackthin
I really like holland but Iām happy wonderboy won Kevin will be fine but if wonderboy lost it wouldnāt be good for the rest of his career
Yooo, Kevin may have lost, but Iād definitely tune in to see one of his fights
Pettis was getting dominated until the KO though
Holland's hand was (wait for it).... A BALEEWN
Kevin Holland is outrageously tough. Any one of those head kicks would have killed most men
one of those liverkicks he took was so loud I actually felt like I took some of it for him lmao i winced instantly
no
What a feather in Pettis' cap though am I right
The timing of that superman punch was legitimately insane, countered right off of the sidekick.
no
Idk why they even would want to match Wonderboy up with grapplers at this point in his career. That should be the very last matchmaking options for him.
if he wants to fight up that's all he's got
its mma, everyone has some grappling. holland clearly could have used some if he wanted to.
Finishes all night, this shit should've been a PPV
Yooo this card was a banger
Fun fights but none of them really mean much for their respective divisions.
Dude I thought it was
Couldāve been* thank god it wasnāt haha
The prelims were mostly decisions, but the main card yeah.
Holland is as durable as they come.
give wonderboy to pereira and holland to ponz if he wins
wanna see wonderboy vs masvidal
It's very rare for a fighter to retire after such a good performance. Too bad I see two more wrestlefucks and maybe a KO in WBs future. Not too many people will just let him stand up like Holland tonight.
Just say no to grapplers, Wonderboy.
Wonderboy vs Masvidal 2 is the fight to make
Don't think that fight goes any differently than the first lol. Wonderboy looks like hasn't lost a step since the fought and I think Masvidal just gets pieced up against to a unanimous decision.
That was like a fight you'd see in a video game where neither of the guys know the grappling and takedown controls so they just go all striking, and then in the 4th, just spamming all the kicks lol
So I have to ask⦠could WB possibly still beat Leon?
Wonderboy looked weak in the clinch. That might be an issue.
hell no lol
Thought about it this week a few times. I think he could, but it would be a longshot. Would LOVE to see it. Wonderboy taking the belt at 40-41 years old would be fucking BADASS and couldnāt happen to a better guy.
Leon showing up with knee sleeves
Leon's striking is leagues worse than wonderboys. That being said it doesn't take much to hold wonderboy on the ground.
Leon would wrestle fuck wonderboy
No, he'd get wrestle fucked
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All champs have good ground game except Pereira. And that's just because he fought Adesanya, who has great TDD but no grappling. WB's TDD and grappling abilities are quite bad. Considering that, he couldn't be champ in almost any division.
Guida, RDA, Johnson, and WB with the wins. Cool night.
OG's for sure!
UFC 282 way too weak to be a PPV
I couldnāt be less excited for jan vs ankalaev. At least glover vs jan would have been somewhat exciting. What an awful main event
I think they mean performance of the year
Guida Johnson and Wonderboy all winning I feel like it's 2015 again
One is washed up and the other still in his prime.
Statement fight for Wonderboy. He lost to grapplers, but his striking still what it always was. You can't hang with the dude there.
despite making sense in rankings, I'm 0% interested in Strickland x Cannonier
Cannonier is going to UD him.
I'm excited to see strickland get brutally KOd again
Especially after that Hermansson performance, Sean beat Uriah Hall and Hermansson by split and got toward the title picture LMAO
crazy fight, UFC has some things to work out. they can have better more exciting fights with favorable match ups... they need to copy onefc, and quickly start the stand up only division with 4 oz gloves. we would have never seen such a display of kicks and karate.
Totally agreed. Although that would be an entirely new thing as one has muy thai and kickboxing but not a general stand up only division right ? I love that idea haha
GGs boys and girls. See ya next event.
Lol at Wonderbreads reaction when they were cutting Hollands tape off.
āš§ oh NO!ā
It wasnāt until watching Holland fight Wonderboy that I realized how sloppy Hollandās hooks are. I can see how he broke his hand. Either from throwing or blocking
He blocked a couple very hard kicks with his hand alone.
I liked real hate between Khabib and Connor. But let's be honest, real lovers of MMA has to have this fight in their top 10 ever.
This is the type of fight you want to show to a friend whoās new to MMA.
Hespect
Cannonier vs Strickland: Bath salts vs Psychopath OG
Crystal powers vs crystal meth
Tonights fights were like getting a free bag of cocaine.
UFC should just manage both those guys with good matchmaking for maximum entertainment. I don't need to know who can outwrestle and I don't want to find out
These fights cards this year in particular have been such fucking bangers
FOTY? no. Jiri/Glover, Khamzat/Burns plainly better, lots others in line before this one. was fun though
Yeah, not enough back and forth to match Jiri/Glover. It might have turned out that way if Holland didn't injure his hand.
It looked like it was shaping up to be in the first two rounds, but it was too one sided after that to be FOTY.
Jiri Glover was not better than this. Fantastic finish but not an overall better fight
Yea this was like a nostalgia trip, seeing Stephen win against a really competitive fighter
Everyone giving the corner credit when they were probably ready to just throw Holland to the wolves again. Kevinās a smart dude, he said āget this shit off of meā meaning ātake off my wraps, Iām doneā and THEN they stopped the fight.
Kevin had clearly been hoping the ref was going to help, he made no secret his hand was broken, he was hoping for it to get called because of that
282 is going to have tough time to live up to this card
0 chance but itās got some solid fights. Main event fucking sucks tho
Great W for Wonderboy
Bonus for the lot of the fighters tonight please Uncle Dana. What a card!
Has Wonderboy lost the power with age or is Kevin Holland built different?
Wonderboy has list a little bit of speed, power at least from the sound looks the same. Kevin just has a meme chin. That 4th round he just wouldnt go down
holland toughness/youth/lack of career damage
Iād say Kevin has a chin and Stephen is getting a bit older. Stephen has power though, but itās not his style to throw hooks from a boxing stance
Holland is tough as fuck, Wonderboy shots were audible on broadcast in a crowd.
Sucks ass that Wonderboy's natural division is WW. He never really stepped up to the grappling.
Holland was definitely concussed with the way he was squinting in that interview lol
This guy CTEās
Photophobia is real.