How am I supposed to break into the field?

  1. Ah, silly me, thanks for pointing that out. Great wiki by the way, that information by itself makes me feel less discouraged.

  2. Any tips on LinkedIn? It was rare af that a recruiter reached out to me and in those cases unfortunately I didn't get the job though I went on to a second interview with the company, but I've noticed people use it as a main source to find jobs and the tips out there on articles feel like they're made for bots or some bs instead of humans tbh

  3. Right now is a tough market for entry to IT. It seems like everyone and there mom is trying to get into IT right , so the market is very saturated with people also looking for entry level jobs . Also GPA is pretty useless to mention unless you’re talking about from a very reputable school. Just because a place has all these requirements to apply, doesn’t mean you NEED to meet them all. If I even meet a couple of the requirements , I apply. It’s really a game of numbers for entry level. I would just send out my resume to all the places I’m even slightly interested in to get my foot in the door. No you are not screwed without certs or internships . Though both could be beneficial to your search. Help desk is pretty much customer services, so you can talk about how you help customers in your previous job and explain why you think that could transfer over into a more technical role as well . Some sites you could try and (indeed or dice) they may not be the BEST sites. But they have job listings. Best of luck in your search. Keep on sending those resumes out.

  4. Yep, same problem that happened back in 2008, but this time it's way way way way way worse now that social media is more evolved, driving up the job applications.

  5. Apply to large cities and be willing to relocate. Apply to 300+ a month postings, tailor your resume to specific roles aka include key words. Setup a lab and explore so you understand how to setup a server and vm's. Search on YouTube how to it's free and easy. Your goal is to get a deeper understanding. This will pay off in interviews as you can show some level of competence. Employers want to hire competent people when breaking into IT.

  6. I live within 45 mins to an hour of two of the largest cities in my state, so that's not a huge issue. As for YouTube and self study, that's also part of my plan. Even if I don't end up taking certification exams right away I want to know what I'm talking about in interviews. I've heard some employers will pay for your exams if they think you've got what it takes. Either way it's free, interesting, and useful, and so I don't really have much to lose.

  7. Something else to consider is open source projects are always looking for assistance, and you can find volunteer projects for ngo’s. Guy i am going to class with did some project management work for some hackathons for an ngo. All he did was show up a few times in a row, no real experience needed.

  8. Well you should be working on a cert and doing home labs. A+ be a good start. Apply in all entry level jobs. Can't get a job if you don't apply. Everyone has different experiences when it comes to job sites. Just get to applying. Apply to several a day. Can't apply to a couple and expect something to happen. May take hundreds. If you need help with the resume or not getting calls then post on here ask for help.

  9. I'm planning on getting my hands on some prep materials for the A+ and eventually attempting the test when I have the money, and I've got a bit of stuff set up for a crude homelab as well. I have a spare Netgear N300 router I have repurposed as a network switch, two fairly decent laptops, and multiple Android devices I can use for whatever I might need them for. I've done a lot of basic tinkering with my equipment and now I need to sit down and design my first major project. I'm also going to specifically study for some of the most common interview questions (a decent amount seem to be network related so TCP/IP and the OSI model seem like good things to know thoroughly), though I expect every interview to be different. Job applications are a given, but I'm also doing some networking with my professional contacts as well as connections from my university. Is this the type of stuff I should be doing at this stage in my career?

  10. I would try to her a job at a bank or a financial services company, it wont be a helpdesk or IT job but it’s a 9-5 and beats the piss out of working at like a mall or something like that and once inside you can apply internally to a role you want.

  11. What the heck is a “full blown” degree? I’m studying Info Systems right now and you’re starting to scare me man. I’m really hoping to get an entry level position as soon as I’m done and if the job market is what you say it is then that is concerning.

  12. Don’t just study, do some personal projects to apply theory that you can put on your resume. I’m a senior IS student as well, without past experience, and got an entry level IT role through applying myself outside of college (Purely anecdotal, but it’s possible).

  13. Start working on the internships. If the school is any good, they care about helping you get some job experience before dumping you on the job market.

  14. Intern if you can. Makes things 1000 times easier. I’m one of the very lucky ones to land a job relatively quickly out of college without one. I too was an info systems grad in May and things looked dicey.

  15. If you worked retail then you can show off all your soft skills and how well you can interact with people. If you're going for an entry level help desk position, unlocking accounts and resetting passwords is easy. Helping people through frustrating/difficult situations is not. Not making people feel like an idiot because they're not good with computers is probably one of the most important skills for that position, and you could use your customer service skills as a main selling point.

  16. If I were you. I'd turn to your college's career center (assuming they have one). Your degree is a specialty degree so they should have some resources to help you get a job in that field.

  17. I think they do and as a recent grad I also get free resume reviews iirc. Not sure how many of the career center's services tailor to specialty degrees but they do have job fairs in person and virtually and I will double check their directory to see if there's anything else I would benefit from.

  18. If you're still in contact with your college department see if they can recommend you for some positions or an internship of some sort. I had the same kind of degree. I'm basically a glorified business major with some extra computer classes. My department head recommended me an internship that turned into a job.

  19. Watch these videos. Start with CCNA. Consider your degree as a certification and watch step 3 on the first video. While you are doing CCNA make up your home lab. I would look at the Microsoft Virtual training days for Azure. You can pick up free vouchers for their entry level certs. Your GPA may be handy for right now but its half life is short. Consider getting the CAPM cert from PMI. That is an entry level certification in Project Management.

  20. You should always ignore experience and education requirements in job listings. They are not relevant

  21. Wow, this is like me verbatim. Even the GPA is almost the exact same. Ended up back in retail for 4 months after graduation. Also got a computer information systems bachelors

  22. You don't really need the A+. You already have a degree. The A+ is really for people who don't have any IT experience or education. You have the latter. Imo, it would be a waste of time and money to get the A+ for your situation.

  23. I might actually benefit more from what I'd learn from a CCNA anyway, I definitely think networking is an area where I'm less knowledgeable. I've heard people describe the A+ as "a mile wide and an inch deep" so a lot of that is probably things I could teach myself or learn on the job. A CCNA is definitely on the menu and I've already signed up for Cisco's free Networking Essentials course via NetAcad/Skills For All.

  24. So you wouldn't recommend finishing the trifecta and getting the Sec+ / Net+ after the A+? What's the benefit of going straight to CCNA if you don't mind me asking?

  25. I have not read all the comments so I may be redundant, but I am a hiring manager. Yes your GPA will be a plus because as some hiring managers look through resumes that will differentiate you. Even though you don't have experience, it shows that you have a good apptitude for the subject matter. Some may not care but we would definitely look at that. If you don't have experience, a good place to start is on a help desk. If you want to get into hardware you can also consider applying places like Best Buy Geek Squad which also gets you hands on experience although not the same as corporate experience, organizations do look at that.

  26. Alright my guy. I was in the same position as you. Trying to find a job during COVID. Have a bachelor's degree in information technology (3.8gpa). And i only have a+ and i worked in retail for 2 years(i was selling electronics products). No internships Found a job after searching for like a year and a half. Had a lot of interviews. Some went well some didn't. You just have to not give up. Don't blame yourself if they don't call you back. There are so many reason why they may not call you back. Companies may decide that they don't need anymore people, or that your skills are not useful in the company setting. Some companies are also an experience when it comes to hiring people, so there is a change that hr manager running around, have no idea what's happening. Now for your questions. Include retail experiences. There are company companies that looking for people that have experience in IT/register system. They don't usually require a lot of experience. Also customer service is pretty important part in IT. Don't worry about experience too much. A lot of it is incorrect. Also you should be applying everywhere. Zips recruiter, indeed, Linkin, on Google, your local recruitment agencies, everywhere. At list 20 applications a day also start studying for certs.

  27. I've been hiring for entry level positions since ~16 days ago... I was off on PTO last week but interviewed literally every hour of the day, every day, the week before.

  28. Thank you for taking the time out of your day to respond, I appreciate the insight from the other end of the table. I figured this might be the case as I did have my resume reviewed by a hiring manager almost a month after I applied to that position, which indicated to me that there were just a ton of applicants to every position. Was a little reassuring to know that I passed the first couple of HR barriers.

  29. Customer Service is a key factor so you can definitely use that to your advantage. No degree / certs will make it more difficult but not impossible. You'll need to do projects to distinguish yourself from your peers. Try Linkedin, you're going to go the shotgun approach so you can spam the easy apply button.

  30. I will respectfully disagree with you on this statement I've seen degrees hold more weight than certs in about 50% of interview instances (everyone in our company is required to interview everyone so I've seen a LOT of candidates) really it comes down to your customer service skills, your knowledge and ability to retain your knowledge, and your attitude.

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