Mandela effect goes in full effect when it comes to tianenman square. Most people remember this guy getting ran over, but there’s a video of him climbing onto the tank and trying to steal it.
At the end of the day, it was a tragedy that China brutally suppressed the uprising, although that's just what governments do when they're internally unified but feel threatened, and they clearly felt that the uprising posed an existential threat to them. I think it's telling that the tank actually stopped though. The tank driver clearly didn't want to just drive over him. That students were absolutely mowed down and killed later on shows that the sentiment wasn't uniform or didn't last, but it didn't start out when them looking for blood; they definitely had orders to make the students to back down though.
Not so sure but there is video of him being pulled away. All though, he did start climbing all over the tank and tried to get in it, so then some other people cam and pulled him out of the way. Some say he was telling them to go back and get more protestors, some say he was telling them to stop, idrk for sure.
Ik I’m late but the guy wasn’t killed he was never identified but there’s a real video showing that he wasn’t crushed and actually got onto the tank but then after he was back down, a couple men pushed him from the tanks way
When you walk the square, you can feel it, even though no one says anything. I asked my tour guide if she had ever seen this famous picture and she said she had never heard of it. I tried searching and could not find it online. I got a little creeped out and acted like a proper tourist the rest of the trip.
I mean… why do they think so many foreign tourists come from around the world to see it to the point they offer tours? If nothing happened, it would just be any other town square. Why even offer tours? Has that not crossed their mind? “Hmm… I wonder why so many foreigners choose our square for tours and not the many many many others”.
When I walked Tiananmen Square I had an unmistakable, overwhelming feeling that I was at the beginning of a mild DMT trip. Just looked up at Mao, the straight lines, the surprisingly tall Chinese soldiers that walked in unison in large groups. "zhe me shuai!" you could hear young women say. It was fear, & awe, & I won't ever go back. My friend and I got caught helping a journalist over a fence to get him in to see whatever he could of the square. The night of his 79th birthday. But all we ever talked about were the tanks.
That’s interesting, I went about 2 years ago and my tour guide actually lowkey fed us facts and told us this was the spot where the tanks where, etc. She was an absolute G, even showed us how to get bootleg sim cards so we could use Facebook
I think it’s important not to say things like “Fuck China”. The CCP is the one who is committing atrocities, but they’ve only been around for so long, when China as a culture, people, land, have been around for ages. There is so much to look at China with admiration for, which is why people should say “Fuck the CCP” or “Fuck Fascism”.
You can hate the Chinese government. But the Chinese people who do cheap labor aren’t the problem. Most likely the hardworking Chinese civilians hate them more than we do. Those aliexpress workers probably would work just as hard under a better government.
The whole story gets crazier when you dive deeper into the protestors and their desires.. some surely wanted “western-style freedoms and human rights” but the majority wanted to return to the Maoist form of communism that led to tens of millions of deaths.. it’s a complicated situation, but it is definitely not as simple as it has been portrayed…
Yeah, the workers got involved because Deng cut a huge number of state policies that provided an "iron rice bowl". By doing this he threw workers to the capitalists, allowing them to be exploited. Deng, and the CCP betrayed it's citizens, no wonder people were pissed, and no wonder the CCP was scared.
The aftermath photos are really powerful. People smashed like pumpkins, legs severed, other people just shot down in masse and that is putting it nicely.
Honestly I don't think the guy driving the tank gets enough credit either. This person could have just kept driving. There were times when they could have snuck around (sort of). But he mostly just said "f-it, I don't really want to do this anyway." I know there were arguments yelled at the guy on the ground. But overall, this illustrated the humanity on both sides quite well. A standoff between two forces acting through two people that ultimately would probably rather share tea together than fight.
I prefer cropped. Yeah, there's more stuff in this version, but it's not as focused and impactful. A guy standing in front of one tank is going to last as long as a guy in front of two hundred tanks anyways.
-50 social credit for all of you! Also we will be punishing generations of your family when our brand of Socialism with Chinese characteristics is introduced... It shouldn't be long now, we are gaining ground against "freedom" loving imperialists.
This was after the massacre, which is part of why his actions are so brave. There's other pictures of the tank man (I think five total), and one is from the ground which shows other people running away, because they know what the army is willing to do at this point.
I would expect it to be based on the scale alone. A few dozen National Guardsmen killed 4 people, and today we all agree that was a bad thing, that's WAY different than the Chinese government killing thousands and then censoring all mention of it from their society.
Come on man, shooting protesting students is completely different from shooting protesting students. America is just a cute little dude who is totally redeemable, every single one of the two billion Chinese people are evil brainwashed commies.
Lol. Millions? Murder? What you are talking about is the US waging wars overseas and displacing millions, killing hundreds of thousands in the process. What China did was a policy mistake, which they corrected afterward by loosening their grip on their market.
All they had to do was put their blinkers on.....but NOOOOO
I don’t think you could see them from on top of the tank anyway.
Was he killed?
No one knows for sure.
I don't think that he was, but hundreds to thousands were in the moments just before this photo.
He might have been killed bit trough his actions he'll outlive us all
He was “disappeared”, probably send to some facility far in the middle of nowhere, executed, or most probably both.
There is no man in Tiananmen Square.
Wang Weilin was forcibly moved and disappeared a few days later. 1 of 2 things happened. He was saved and forced to change his identity or....
Mandela effect goes in full effect when it comes to tianenman square. Most people remember this guy getting ran over, but there’s a video of him climbing onto the tank and trying to steal it.
He wasn’t.
At the end of the day, it was a tragedy that China brutally suppressed the uprising, although that's just what governments do when they're internally unified but feel threatened, and they clearly felt that the uprising posed an existential threat to them. I think it's telling that the tank actually stopped though. The tank driver clearly didn't want to just drive over him. That students were absolutely mowed down and killed later on shows that the sentiment wasn't uniform or didn't last, but it didn't start out when them looking for blood; they definitely had orders to make the students to back down though.
Not so sure but there is video of him being pulled away. All though, he did start climbing all over the tank and tried to get in it, so then some other people cam and pulled him out of the way. Some say he was telling them to go back and get more protestors, some say he was telling them to stop, idrk for sure.
no
No. The complete video shows how the army treated him gently in trying to make him move. Believe it or not (the video is on the internet anyway).
Dunno. There's a video over at YT where (I am guessing) a couple of students pull him aside.
No, he climbed on top of the tank and opened the hatch, he exchanged a few words with the crew and then left.
Ik I’m late but the guy wasn’t killed he was never identified but there’s a real video showing that he wasn’t crushed and actually got onto the tank but then after he was back down, a couple men pushed him from the tanks way
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He was moved away by bystanders, so not killed in that instance if that was what you were asking.
When you walk the square, you can feel it, even though no one says anything. I asked my tour guide if she had ever seen this famous picture and she said she had never heard of it. I tried searching and could not find it online. I got a little creeped out and acted like a proper tourist the rest of the trip.
The great firewall of china in action
I mean… why do they think so many foreign tourists come from around the world to see it to the point they offer tours? If nothing happened, it would just be any other town square. Why even offer tours? Has that not crossed their mind? “Hmm… I wonder why so many foreigners choose our square for tours and not the many many many others”.
When I walked Tiananmen Square I had an unmistakable, overwhelming feeling that I was at the beginning of a mild DMT trip. Just looked up at Mao, the straight lines, the surprisingly tall Chinese soldiers that walked in unison in large groups. "zhe me shuai!" you could hear young women say. It was fear, & awe, & I won't ever go back. My friend and I got caught helping a journalist over a fence to get him in to see whatever he could of the square. The night of his 79th birthday. But all we ever talked about were the tanks.
That’s interesting, I went about 2 years ago and my tour guide actually lowkey fed us facts and told us this was the spot where the tanks where, etc. She was an absolute G, even showed us how to get bootleg sim cards so we could use Facebook
I'm thinking she lied.
People think this can only happen on the other side of the world. This is what an unstable government looks like and it can happen in just a lifetime.
Seriously fuck China...
Fuqq China sideways!! BTW finally got my cheap new schenzen cloned gate opener!!
I wonder what happened afterwards. Maybe the BBC knows.
I think it’s important not to say things like “Fuck China”. The CCP is the one who is committing atrocities, but they’ve only been around for so long, when China as a culture, people, land, have been around for ages. There is so much to look at China with admiration for, which is why people should say “Fuck the CCP” or “Fuck Fascism”.
Not "Fuck China". Say "Fuck CCP". Stop mixing ideas. Chinese communist party acts are hateful But chinese people and culture don't deserve your racism
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You can hate the Chinese government. But the Chinese people who do cheap labor aren’t the problem. Most likely the hardworking Chinese civilians hate them more than we do. Those aliexpress workers probably would work just as hard under a better government.
Our Chinese tour guide was aware of this and when we were in the Square told us in hushed tones about where the hotel that the photo was shot was.
CCP censorship and insecurity is reaching levels previously thought impossible.
What do people think happened there that day? Protestors killed military personnel.
Source: I made it up
and then everyone clapped
Source : I made it up
This is du h obvious bs only reddit could eat it up
The envoy wrote: "Students understood they were given one hour to leave square but after five minutes APCs attacked.
The whole story gets crazier when you dive deeper into the protestors and their desires.. some surely wanted “western-style freedoms and human rights” but the majority wanted to return to the Maoist form of communism that led to tens of millions of deaths.. it’s a complicated situation, but it is definitely not as simple as it has been portrayed…
Yeah, the workers got involved because Deng cut a huge number of state policies that provided an "iron rice bowl". By doing this he threw workers to the capitalists, allowing them to be exploited. Deng, and the CCP betrayed it's citizens, no wonder people were pissed, and no wonder the CCP was scared.
Hmmm I wonder why they wanted to return to communism? What do you mean they had better life then? Can’t be, all lies pee poo poo
Brrrrrrrrttt is all the comes to mind.. But seriously what a bad ass never seen the full picture.. Man had nerves of steel and balls of tungsten
The aftermath photos are really powerful. People smashed like pumpkins, legs severed, other people just shot down in masse and that is putting it nicely.
And the mush that was people bring hosed down street drains
Honestly I don't think the guy driving the tank gets enough credit either. This person could have just kept driving. There were times when they could have snuck around (sort of). But he mostly just said "f-it, I don't really want to do this anyway." I know there were arguments yelled at the guy on the ground. But overall, this illustrated the humanity on both sides quite well. A standoff between two forces acting through two people that ultimately would probably rather share tea together than fight.
I prefer cropped. Yeah, there's more stuff in this version, but it's not as focused and impactful. A guy standing in front of one tank is going to last as long as a guy in front of two hundred tanks anyways.
What ? Nothing happened .
Just lots of dead students.
why is the picture blank
When I see the picture of Tank Man, the song Refuse/Resist from Sepultura always comes in my mind.
The pictures of what actually happened are much more powerful and devastating.
Idk why we are just now seeing this as if they didn't have access to all angles probably
Because you probably never thought to look before and the cropped photo is easier to discern the guy.
-50 social credit for all of you! Also we will be punishing generations of your family when our brand of Socialism with Chinese characteristics is introduced... It shouldn't be long now, we are gaining ground against "freedom" loving imperialists.
What happened after?
This was after the massacre, which is part of why his actions are so brave. There's other pictures of the tank man (I think five total), and one is from the ground which shows other people running away, because they know what the army is willing to do at this point.
There were a half-dozen photographers taking pictures from a nearby hotel that day. This particular photo was taken by
Your parents fought so you can pray to your god Xi. Making them proud.
Notice the disciplined drivers maintaining a straight line in a permissive environment. Nothing has changed, nothing to see here.
just one tank passing by your house is enough to rattle the windows and the ground. imagine what he felt
Fuck Pooh.
Even if they still censor this, he was not the president at that time, but okay.
Meanwhile, even people in the western world believe stupid articles such as these:
What the fuck
nah its correct wikileaks is much more trustable that any western medisa
I wonder what happened afterwards. Maybe the BBC knows.
The “tank man” wasn’t killed. His friend pulled him aside to let the tank pass. Also, those tanks were leaving.
cable 89 beijing
Indeed, take my upvote
I agree
I don’t see anything
Woooow, that is bravery
The Tank Balls on that guy.
you have balls. I like balls.
https://youtu.be/YeFzeNAHEhU
Except the tanks were leaving.
After massacring hundreds of people
Must be “Fuck China” o’clock on Reddit again.
Yes
And somehow simultaneously fuck you thirty
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Oh stfu
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This was taken after the massacre, not before it.
Lol dafuq
No, less so. Photojournalists and editors get paid for a reason. Leave them to it.
Bet you havent seen the videos of them dozering pieces of students away after. That shits brutal
I've been there.
THAT ONE GUY STANDING IN FRONT , IMMIDEATLY GOT GOOSEBUMPS
Looks like they are collecting dead bodies and prisoners.
6/4/1989 nothing happened
me as a cpt.. "wait.. cant we just line up the other way and we'll go right passed him?"
What happened to him?
At least 20 tanks blocked by a single, unarmed man
Pretty off topic, but imagine an A10 warthog just bbbrrraaaappping down that line of tanks.
Why don't you ask the kids at Tiananmen Square, Was fashion the reason why they were there?
humans are squishy :(
That guy is a fucking badass.
That is absolutely incredible.
I wonder if redditors will lose their sympathy for protesters after learning that most of protesters were maoists against deng's reforms?
Nope. It doesn’t really matter what they were there for, what matters is the government slaughtered them after they’d been there peacefully for weeks.
Just wait until you see the video and the tank politely stops and no one shoots the person on sight like they would in America
what's funny is that the dude suffered no harm here, in the full video they just let him go.
Wait the guy is stopping the tanks from leaving
I wonder if we may ever know his name and life
There is so much misinformation on this thread. You want proof? 3 videos… before, during and after the massacre. Less we Forget.
anyone here who knows the story behind this knows it wasn't a pleasant day
I remember the events clearly....a memorable moment that affected the world s populations deeply....
If that happened in my city, the driver would get out himself because he can’t be late for work.
Tiananmen man is actually Steven Seagull.
Funny how often this image gets posted in comparison to let's say John Filo's Kent State picture..
I would expect it to be based on the scale alone. A few dozen National Guardsmen killed 4 people, and today we all agree that was a bad thing, that's WAY different than the Chinese government killing thousands and then censoring all mention of it from their society.
Come on man, shooting protesting students is completely different from shooting protesting students. America is just a cute little dude who is totally redeemable, every single one of the two billion Chinese people are evil brainwashed commies.
This post is about humans doing impressive things. The murder of millions under an oppressive, dictatorship government is NOT impressive!
This post isn't showcasing the tanks, its for the one man standing in front of all of them
Now imagine how impressive it would be to stand up to such an oppressive dictatorship
Lol. Millions? Murder? What you are talking about is the US waging wars overseas and displacing millions, killing hundreds of thousands in the process. What China did was a policy mistake, which they corrected afterward by loosening their grip on their market.
Expanded with AI art.
This photo has been around way before dall-e and midjourney.
There's clearly plenty of room to go around. Terrible tactics, China.
cold photo
Pretty sure I've seen this exact post before with the same title and everything...
I watched that happen in real time on television in Australia