Honestly was expecting more middling reviews since the Abbey relationiship building part of the game didn't exactly look great in the previews, but I guess Jake & Firaxis nailed it again. Hopefully they'll do another WOTC style expansion for this one.
From my personal experience, the Abbey relationship building on the preview (and even further from that) was pretty great! More in-depth than I actually anticipated 😅
I was planning on waiting for sale on this one but I think I might just pick it up on release. I love deck builders, XCOM, and Persona/Fire Emblem games. Considering that almost all deck builders out there are roguelites, I think it will be really interesting to play one that is a fully fledged campaign where you build and upgrade your deck through building character relationships. Sounds like the dialogue might get a bit tedious at times, but the gameplay just looks fantastic.
Really happy this is getting good reviews. Chimera Squad was a fun twist on the formula but I still wanted a more meaty experience. While this isn't XCOM 3 it still has the Jake Solomon/Firaxis DNA and I'm hoping for a very rich tactical experience.
I came in on Chimera Squad, and trying to go back to 2 I genuinely couldn't tell if I didn't enjoy the fact the game was more complex, or just that all of the interactions of abilities were infuriatingly unclear, meaning I had to savescum just to learn how I could use the damn tools the game was throwing at me. Chimera Squad had a few niche interactions you had to noodle out (the precise nature of Bind being a "free action" springs to mind), but for the most part how everything interacted and what would and wouldn't end your turn was very clear. Also, and I'm sure the XCOM nuts will hate me for saying this, but breach mode is a lot more fun than "try to stealth through a level half-blind until you get ganked or manage to set up a passable ambush." Not to mention the aliens being cool.
I actually didn't have particularly high hopes for this game so I wasn't really paying much attention to it. I'm glad to hear it looks like it might be a really good game. TRPGs are one of my favorite genres. I'll still probably wait a bit and read some reviews from gamers at large before pulling the trigger though. I've still got some games I bought over Thanksgiving that I really want to play.
So some people say the writing and the characters are absolute dogshit (SkillUp especially gave the game hell due to this) while others claim it's great. Curious.
That sort of thing is super subjective, especially considering all the MCU-fatigue these days. I think it will mainly depend on your tolerance for Whedonisms.
Kinda iffy on that; As he shits on Robbie Reyes for being doubtful and not the usual badass Ghost Rider that most of the people think of. Robbie Reyes being a younger superhero, and much like in his run with the Avengers he was doubtful being part of team, eventhough potentially he was only 2nd to Thor on that team in terms of power.
Most things about games are subjective but nothing more so than characters and writing. Marvel itself is pretty polarising, hugely popular but also a very vocal minority (myself included) can't stand the majority of the writing.
Kinda iffy on that; As he craps on Robbie Reyes for being doubtful and not the usual badass Ghost Rider that most of the people think of. Robbie Reyes being a younger superhero, and much like in his run with the Avengers he was doubtful being part of team, eventhough potentially he was only 2nd to Thor on that team in terms of power
I know almost nothing about Marvel, I've watched about 3 of the films a decade ago, but I do absolutely love XCOM. Will I understand what's going on without prior knowledge? Is there enough combat depth to enjoy even if I'm not invested in the universe?
Any feedback on how this runs on Switch? The game sounds like it would be great for handheld downtime. But just worried about the switch’s hardware handling a big game.
How many times did you miss a 99% accuracy then have that character lose then stop turn it off and rethink every choice you made up until this point in life?
From the couple of negative reviews, it looks like some people really don't click with the writing, and specifically that a lot of it is very human "these superheroes aren't great at normal human socialization" stuff. Otherwise, it seems like people are loving it.
I can't wait for one of the characters to tell me "Hunter, the enemy continues to make progress on their doomsday project, if we're going to slow them down we've got to move fast."
The writing is the part that I've been afraid of, particularly hearing just how much time is spent chit-chatting vs actually playing. I'm super intrigued by "XCOM with cards", but I just know that the writing will turn me off.
Maybe I just need to play the game but taking off so many points for the writing seems like hyperbole to me. The game with some of the worst writing I've ever seen is Insomniac's Spider-Man, and it didn't matter at all, because it's a fun Spider-Man game and you forget all the cringe inducing dialogue the second you go back to playing.
I mean I dunno about obscure team. When a founding member like Morbius is DLC and the team is packed with mainstream Avengers/X-Men, I can’t exactly say this is a Midnight Sons game.
I’m torn, been checking out reviews and some footage. I definitely understand many of the complaints, especially about the dialogue and social aspect. I could see that getting annoying fast but….
Fans of RPGs that let you create your character are going to get so much love in 2023. Between Midnight Suns and Baldur's Gate III I could be set for games for the entire rest of the year, but then Dragon Age 4 and Starfield are both rumored for 2023 as well.
Firaxis has always been known more for their gameplay than their writing. Kind of a shame they decided to double down on the story with this one. But if the gameplay is good enough, which it seems to be, then I'll probably give it a shot.
holy shit that entire book club part in the game is just... beyond awful, just wat? and then all the examples he showed, the writing and dialogue looks awful and just straight up boring :/
If you watch video review - it looks indeed extremely rough and insensitive imho. I will hold up to see how steam reviews roll and what people complain about. I'm not even sold on gameplay either. It seems like extremely watered down from XCOM - with absolutely irrelevant positioning tactics.
Sounds like the gameplay is solid but the writing is pretty meh. I don't have as much interest in the marvel cast anyway, my interest is purely for the gameplay from Firaxis so that sounds okay. I'll probably wait for a sale though, too busy these days anyway!
Ive seen a few gameplay videos and it just doesn't seem very exciting. The missions in the new the XCOM games always felt very intense and that definitely doesn't come across here. It seems very flat. I get it's a different genre/atmosphere, but I think I'll wait for some time to pass and a sale as well.
I'm hoping the dialogue and story doesn't bog it down too much. I love love love XCOM1 and 2 and i hope this is fun. And like, XCOMs story was pretty meh so whatever. I want the gameplay to keep me coming back.
watching Christopher Odd play, and the humor is just bad. Iron Man is a quip bot, Dr. Strange is a quipper as well. if character interactions are a big part of this game then it's going to be grating to get through this game.
After watching a couple previews, I’m honestly not sure how anyone came to a different conclusion. The writing and line delivery was awful, and there are HOURS of it, most or all of which is mandatory. This game has some absolutely baffling design decisions in its out-of-combat sequences.
The last few minutes of your review shows uncommented gameplay, cutscenes and voice-acting. Serious, even without your review I lost the interest on that game. Even a deep sale isn't an argument of spending my time on that product!
Good review, thanks. I do think that writing was a weak point of XCOM as well and I still enjoyed it, but XCOM also didn't really made a mechanic out of that part, so I can see it being more annoying here.
I'll be honest, everything I've seen of the game made me think it would be 6/10 or 7/10. Probably just from the expectations that 90% of licensed Marvel games are generic, while the few that rise to the top are incredible.
This definitely feels to me like them making a strong case for "let us be experimental with XCOM, we can do so much more." Chimera Squad got raked over the coals, but it was the game that got Firaxis on my radar, and going back to 2, I didn't like it nearly as much for, I discovered, basically all the reasons XCOM fans didn't like Chimera Squad. Whenever they go back to XCOM, I hope they bring at least a bit of Chimera forward with them, I'm not sure I'll be interested otherwise.
Just a general reminder that the last however many XCOM games that Firaxis has released have been buggy AF at launch. If you are interested in this game and that bothers you, you may want to wait a month or so for patches to drop. Otherwise I recommend saving often, and ignoring any kind of Ironman mode this game has for the time being.
XCOM1 still has tons of bugs today. I've started a playthrough a few months ago and ragequit because of some of those bugs (e.g. units being stuck after a certain actions, places not targettable or painful to target).
watching skillup's review on the story, yikes the examples he showed in the game makes me think all the people that reviewed and said the story is good is fucking nuts.
Hearing that the Abbey stuff takes up half the game is a big bummer. Combat looks right up my alley but I will not wade through 30 hours of unflavored porridge for it.
I could have sworn they said the character building stuff was completely optional, like something to do if you want, but you don't have to. Granted, this is when they first announced the game, so things are obviously subject to change.
I was turned off when the game was originally revealled, but now it has won me over. I love the balancing of turn-based combat with classic JRPG-style social links with you hanging out with the heroes.
Unfortunately from skillup's review only the gameplay part is well done. He likens the social bits to a badly written jrpg, which is saying a lot considering most jrpgs arent well written at bloody all. The social clips in his review are painful to watch.
I would actually love the "tacked-on, boring, relationship building, "humanization" of heroes," IF it was good, portraying the characters in ways that made sense to their natures from the comics and exploring their relationships in an engaging way. Unfortunately, from the reviews, they seem to have had NO idea what they were doing here, and delivered a bunch of stock footage storylines that have no relevance to the actual characters.
Same. I sat through that shit to get through Persona 5 and at least SOME of that stuff was charming - or at least gave me a little peek into some aspects of Japanese daily life. This stuff looks even worse - why would you ever let me hang out with Ghost Rider and NOT have you go cruising around in the hell car looking for trouble?
I'm surprised by the reviews. I'm happy for them, but it's just not for me. I was turned off from the initial gameplay reveal. I just don't like cards. I find card mechanics are just too random and tedious for me.
Honestly baffling to me how ppl can even like a turned based card system in the first place tbh… gameplay legit stops while taking your turn, a bunch of random shit constantly all over the screen, and (with this game anyway) the graphics are PS3ish imo. But hey, it seems awesome for the ppl that like it so power to them. Diff strokes for diff folks I guess
I adore XCOM so I’ll probably end up getting this, especially since the reviews are mostly good. As others have said it seems that the writing has provoked mixed reactions, but I enjoyed the “banter” in chimera squad so I imagine I won’t mind some “marvel humor” if this game has some of that kind of thing. Especially if the combat is fun
game optimization is horrible, lag, drop fps and slutter everywhere. Microtransaction to buy hero custom lol, what a scum. Character are super cringe, joke every five second like a stupid Marvel movie, you know the deal
God. My kids bought me this because they have witnessed my unhealthy obsession with X Com 2. A game with almost limitless replayability. But this... This... Honestly what the fuck were they thinking. I have fell asleep twice trying to get through the most boring story cutscenes I have ever had the displeasure to sit through. I don't know whats going on. Dude was talking to a ghost in the library for about 10 minutes and the camera never moved and they were just talking buzzword gobbledegook bollocks and I was asleep.
Sorting the comments in here by new has been fun. It's just a string of negativity while the game continues to just rack up great review after great review. It's not all sunshine and rainbows or anything, (graphics for one look very last gen to me, and the dialogue seems spotty for sure but not nearly as insufferable as SkillUp took it), but it's probably the best reviewed major superhero game in a long time. I kind of expect some of this with my massive RPGs, frankly, and it's always felt like sacrifices had to be made here and there to get something this massive out there.
As a super fan of the XCom series reboot with more hours into WotC than I’d want to admit to, I have no desire to play this game and the reviews lead me to believe it will be an unpolished disappointment. But I want other people to buy it in order to keep up hope for XCom 3.
Interestingly from the write-ups the game almost sounds more Into the Breach than XCOM. Which is great by me because Into the Breach is also a strategy masterclass. But its a very different game.
I wanted this game to be good SO BADLY and I'm extremely excited at initial reviews. I've got $50 on an xbox gift card just staring at me, almost spent it on Soul Hackers 2 this week. Might wait until it's out and gets a patch or 2 to pull the trigger but so far this looks amazing.
So freaking excited for this game regardless of what any of these reviews say. Every single thing I have seen about this game looks great and Firaxis almost always delivers top notch games. Can't wait until Friday!
Game is up for purchase... And so is the in-game currency. Purchasable currency is an instant nope for me. It's a shame because I was warming up to the game over time for it to be ruined at the finish line.
The marketing was a mixed bag, initially some people seemed to think that the card based gameplay was going to lead to yet another Marvel licensed game filled with micro transactions / lootboxes.
Reviews on this are much better than expected. I figured the slow conversational aspect of seemingly half the game would throw a lot of people off of it.
Really enjoying the game ,I didn’t think I could love a card game but it’s truly a great piece of work , many heroes , different ways to play , not just a card game at all
The game trailer is a misleading false advertisement claim/claims waiting to happen! I purchased the most expensive version of this game based on what an employee at GameStop told me! He stated that this game was like the Spider-Man games using the same mechanics! Which was a straight up lie! I hate card based games like this where you have to play a card to use powers on someone or something! I give it a 3/10 rating score and that’s only because the graphics and visuals were good! And before someone gets uptight and starts going off and bashing me I have a right to give my opinion of the game! If you like the game then awesome but I don’t and that’s my opinion!
the game looks rushed Pubg 3D movement when running around and wtf is that T-pose falling off a height no basic physics and little to no Facial Expressions when talking and interacting with other NPC; Combat lacks basic stuff like running out of time to make a turn and overall other character's fighting the NPC's with animation until I make a turn not just standing still and watching them it's like they forgot about time in this game and the bugs, of course, it crashes, of course, it has bugs because they can patch it later right because the story is still playable right? to hell with that I say. i hope they can improve on these I know this game was made for the masses but I'm just so disappointed by the titles released from this and last year bf 2042, cyberpunk 2077 , marvel avengers ...... and a lot more this game more or less looks like a mobile game with a pushed microtransaction also like wtf they could have easily made a few millions of dollors or more if they made this on mobile with the same things and mobile graphics lol it already has the graphics from mobile just in higher resolution lmao like (ok dudeeee) It's like they copy pasted Marvel Future revolution graphics into pc , Marvel titles are lacking a lot of things even the movies gotten worse too; only sony's spider-man 2018 is one of the best games I played in a marvel title along with the amazing spider-man 1 and 2 from activision that they removed from steam these dev's think we still live in the past and don't see the lack of development and just want to cash grab us what happend to games released with no bugs play tested by more than 100 people on different systems nowadays it's like release game in buggy messed up state because we can patch it later.
I know it's just alphabetical, but it does my heart good seeing ACG as the first review people will see. Jeremy is one of the last surviving quality game reviewers not picked up by a publication and not just a corpo sellout.
Does anyone know if the bullshit non-mission stuff is skippable at all? There’s a 0% chance I’ll ever play this if it isn’t, based on SkillUps review of the shit like fishing etc, which would be sad because the actual real gameplay looks like stuff I’d love. I can’t believe they’ve fucked the game up so much with all the filler garbage
My biggest issue were the "relationship scenes" seemed like it was out of the Mass Effect 1 standing still talking heads playbook. Did they improve those?
Sorry, but as a real Midnight Son fan, seeing them devolved into an angst teen club called EMOKIDS and having their origin story given to the avengers infuriates me to no end.
Nope, not touching this. I really hoped this would be Marvel Xcom, the special units in WOTC looked like an excellent blueprint for superhero units. This Fire Emblem shit is a big no-no for me and I don’t like how the combat looks.
The IGN review said the game takes about 75 hours to beat which is ridiculous. I guess the developers are okay with 99% of the people playing it never seeing it to the end.
I mean XCOM 2, thier previous game, also took about 70 hours for a full campaign if you did everything, and most fans of that game have put hundreds of hours into it.
Honestly was expecting more middling reviews since the Abbey relationiship building part of the game didn't exactly look great in the previews, but I guess Jake & Firaxis nailed it again. Hopefully they'll do another WOTC style expansion for this one.
From my personal experience, the Abbey relationship building on the preview (and even further from that) was pretty great! More in-depth than I actually anticipated 😅
Everything in the abbey is painful. It's absolutely horseshit.
I love relationship building mechanics like the persona games. it sounds like they nailed it so this is a must buy for me
I was planning on waiting for sale on this one but I think I might just pick it up on release. I love deck builders, XCOM, and Persona/Fire Emblem games. Considering that almost all deck builders out there are roguelites, I think it will be really interesting to play one that is a fully fledged campaign where you build and upgrade your deck through building character relationships. Sounds like the dialogue might get a bit tedious at times, but the gameplay just looks fantastic.
Really happy this is getting good reviews. Chimera Squad was a fun twist on the formula but I still wanted a more meaty experience. While this isn't XCOM 3 it still has the Jake Solomon/Firaxis DNA and I'm hoping for a very rich tactical experience.
I came in on Chimera Squad, and trying to go back to 2 I genuinely couldn't tell if I didn't enjoy the fact the game was more complex, or just that all of the interactions of abilities were infuriatingly unclear, meaning I had to savescum just to learn how I could use the damn tools the game was throwing at me. Chimera Squad had a few niche interactions you had to noodle out (the precise nature of Bind being a "free action" springs to mind), but for the most part how everything interacted and what would and wouldn't end your turn was very clear. Also, and I'm sure the XCOM nuts will hate me for saying this, but breach mode is a lot more fun than "try to stealth through a level half-blind until you get ganked or manage to set up a passable ambush." Not to mention the aliens being cool.
I actually didn't have particularly high hopes for this game so I wasn't really paying much attention to it. I'm glad to hear it looks like it might be a really good game. TRPGs are one of my favorite genres. I'll still probably wait a bit and read some reviews from gamers at large before pulling the trigger though. I've still got some games I bought over Thanksgiving that I really want to play.
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So some people say the writing and the characters are absolute dogshit (SkillUp especially gave the game hell due to this) while others claim it's great. Curious.
That sort of thing is super subjective, especially considering all the MCU-fatigue these days. I think it will mainly depend on your tolerance for Whedonisms.
Kinda iffy on that; As he shits on Robbie Reyes for being doubtful and not the usual badass Ghost Rider that most of the people think of. Robbie Reyes being a younger superhero, and much like in his run with the Avengers he was doubtful being part of team, eventhough potentially he was only 2nd to Thor on that team in terms of power.
Most things about games are subjective but nothing more so than characters and writing. Marvel itself is pretty polarising, hugely popular but also a very vocal minority (myself included) can't stand the majority of the writing.
Probably depends on if you’re a Disney adult or not
Kinda iffy on that; As he craps on Robbie Reyes for being doubtful and not the usual badass Ghost Rider that most of the people think of. Robbie Reyes being a younger superhero, and much like in his run with the Avengers he was doubtful being part of team, eventhough potentially he was only 2nd to Thor on that team in terms of power
I did the review for [GGRecon] (
Are all the combat arenas just flat spaces like we saw in all the preview footage?
What all is carried over in NG+? Are there any options to it or is it just "this carries over and this doesn't".
Were you able to play through Guardians of The Galaxy? How would you compare the writing/storytelling to that?
My only question is this, can you get Carnage on your team?
I know almost nothing about Marvel, I've watched about 3 of the films a decade ago, but I do absolutely love XCOM. Will I understand what's going on without prior knowledge? Is there enough combat depth to enjoy even if I'm not invested in the universe?
Any feedback on how this runs on Switch? The game sounds like it would be great for handheld downtime. But just worried about the switch’s hardware handling a big game.
My 3 questions:
What did you think about the writing? People seems to be really down on it.
Do you know who the voice actress for Female Huntress is?
How many times did you miss a 99% accuracy then have that character lose then stop turn it off and rethink every choice you made up until this point in life?
Love XCOM, very bored of Marvel. Should I bother?
Can you give me a non-hedging answer to the question of if this is a tactics game? Evert review, even yours, uses a line like this:
How is the difficulty? XCom could be very rough. One mistake in a mission and basically the whole campaign was unrecoverable on higher difficulties.
From the couple of negative reviews, it looks like some people really don't click with the writing, and specifically that a lot of it is very human "these superheroes aren't great at normal human socialization" stuff. Otherwise, it seems like people are loving it.
I can't wait for one of the characters to tell me "Hunter, the enemy continues to make progress on their doomsday project, if we're going to slow them down we've got to move fast."
Looks rather divisive with some people saying it's what elevated the game for them.
The writing is the part that I've been afraid of, particularly hearing just how much time is spent chit-chatting vs actually playing. I'm super intrigued by "XCOM with cards", but I just know that the writing will turn me off.
I really loathe 'dialogue-by-quips' so I don't know if I could stomach this one, or hardly any Marvel property these days.
Maybe I just need to play the game but taking off so many points for the writing seems like hyperbole to me. The game with some of the worst writing I've ever seen is Insomniac's Spider-Man, and it didn't matter at all, because it's a fun Spider-Man game and you forget all the cringe inducing dialogue the second you go back to playing.
I'm very glad this is reviewing well, I want Marvel to do more games like this, with a different tone and more obscure teams.
I mean I dunno about obscure team. When a founding member like Morbius is DLC and the team is packed with mainstream Avengers/X-Men, I can’t exactly say this is a Midnight Sons game.
NOT releasing on switch this year:
I’m torn, been checking out reviews and some footage. I definitely understand many of the complaints, especially about the dialogue and social aspect. I could see that getting annoying fast but….
Fans of RPGs that let you create your character are going to get so much love in 2023. Between Midnight Suns and Baldur's Gate III I could be set for games for the entire rest of the year, but then Dragon Age 4 and Starfield are both rumored for 2023 as well.
FYI, only PC, Series X|S, and PS5 versions are releasing on Dec. 2. The other versions have been delayed (with no specific release date).
Shit, I was counting on switch version on the 2nd right until I saw this comment
The game sounds interesting, but man, if
Firaxis has always been known more for their gameplay than their writing. Kind of a shame they decided to double down on the story with this one. But if the gameplay is good enough, which it seems to be, then I'll probably give it a shot.
holy shit that entire book club part in the game is just... beyond awful, just wat? and then all the examples he showed, the writing and dialogue looks awful and just straight up boring :/
see like honestly that just makes me even more interested, i love superheroes doing goofy mundane shit like that
You'd be into yoga too if you had to run around killing vampires all the time. Even super heroes gotta stretch.
That clip from SkillUp ironically sold me on the game.
If you watch video review - it looks indeed extremely rough and insensitive imho. I will hold up to see how steam reviews roll and what people complain about. I'm not even sold on gameplay either. It seems like extremely watered down from XCOM - with absolutely irrelevant positioning tactics.
I think it’s a crime to even compare this game to Xcom. The maps and enemies are about as copy as paste as they come.
Sounds like the gameplay is solid but the writing is pretty meh. I don't have as much interest in the marvel cast anyway, my interest is purely for the gameplay from Firaxis so that sounds okay. I'll probably wait for a sale though, too busy these days anyway!
Ive seen a few gameplay videos and it just doesn't seem very exciting. The missions in the new the XCOM games always felt very intense and that definitely doesn't come across here. It seems very flat. I get it's a different genre/atmosphere, but I think I'll wait for some time to pass and a sale as well.
I'm hoping the dialogue and story doesn't bog it down too much. I love love love XCOM1 and 2 and i hope this is fun. And like, XCOMs story was pretty meh so whatever. I want the gameplay to keep me coming back.
watching Christopher Odd play, and the humor is just bad. Iron Man is a quip bot, Dr. Strange is a quipper as well. if character interactions are a big part of this game then it's going to be grating to get through this game.
Mine for ACG
Writing was always Firaxis' weakness, but at least in the XCOM games you could mostly ignore it. Can't really be said here unfortunately.
Damn seems like you're in the minority this time
The reinforcements issue you bring up reminds me of Dragon Age 2, an issue that completely ruined that already flawed game.
After watching a couple previews, I’m honestly not sure how anyone came to a different conclusion. The writing and line delivery was awful, and there are HOURS of it, most or all of which is mandatory. This game has some absolutely baffling design decisions in its out-of-combat sequences.
It feels like super hero games have a lot of the same problems as super hero movies.
Appreciate your reviews and how much detail you get into!
Sounds like they've made X-com : The Long Bore.
The last few minutes of your review shows uncommented gameplay, cutscenes and voice-acting. Serious, even without your review I lost the interest on that game. Even a deep sale isn't an argument of spending my time on that product!
Yeah I’m watching the same review and the game looks terrible, can’t believe it’s scoring 8 and 9s.
I had such high hopes for this game. Love the style. Your and KindaFunny made me decide to wait.
Good review, thanks. I do think that writing was a weak point of XCOM as well and I still enjoyed it, but XCOM also didn't really made a mechanic out of that part, so I can see it being more annoying here.
I always love seeing you pop up on reddit. Keep up the good work!
This is what I look for when I see these threads
Looks like a lot of reviews disagree with you, forgive me if I don't trust your singular opinion.
A game that is getting mostly positive reception, and this comment is at the top of this thread. Fucking Reddit man. Just a cesspool of negativity.
Anyone know how bad the microtransactions in this game are?
$3 per skin or you can get them all with the $100 version
I'll be honest, everything I've seen of the game made me think it would be 6/10 or 7/10. Probably just from the expectations that 90% of licensed Marvel games are generic, while the few that rise to the top are incredible.
This definitely feels to me like them making a strong case for "let us be experimental with XCOM, we can do so much more." Chimera Squad got raked over the coals, but it was the game that got Firaxis on my radar, and going back to 2, I didn't like it nearly as much for, I discovered, basically all the reasons XCOM fans didn't like Chimera Squad. Whenever they go back to XCOM, I hope they bring at least a bit of Chimera forward with them, I'm not sure I'll be interested otherwise.
As someone who was very interested in seeing this experiment, even I was starting to have doubts.
Firaxis is one of the premier game devs out there and it's not a recent thing either. I have faith in them.
The people that made XCOM and civilization making another strategy game? I'm on board
Just a general reminder that the last however many XCOM games that Firaxis has released have been buggy AF at launch. If you are interested in this game and that bothers you, you may want to wait a month or so for patches to drop. Otherwise I recommend saving often, and ignoring any kind of Ironman mode this game has for the time being.
Hopefully they've at least improved load times. XCOM 2 took you back to the days of booting up a DOS game on the computer.
2? They've released 2.
XCOM1 still has tons of bugs today. I've started a playthrough a few months ago and ragequit because of some of those bugs (e.g. units being stuck after a certain actions, places not targettable or painful to target).
I remember playing through the tutorial mission of the first XCOM 4 times on launch day because it was so damn buggy.
watching skillup's review on the story, yikes the examples he showed in the game makes me think all the people that reviewed and said the story is good is fucking nuts.
skillup is kinda clickbaity with his content, but wow, some of these clips was godawful. i've read fanfiction with better writing.
Is everyone else wrong? Or is that one guy you watched wrong?
Super pumped, but how's the performance? Wondering if I should get it on my PS5 or PC.
The answer's always PC, man!
PC Gamer sure knows what words to get me going huh? I'm dropping some fucking cash on this right fucking now.
Same lmao I just got sold by these reviews. Just trying to determine if performance is decent enough on switch or to just get it on PS5.
Like the exact combination of words that would move this from a wait to an insta-purchase
I'm sorry, why did no one tell me Nico was in this game??
I'm sorry, I should have said something.
Should've joined
Hearing that the Abbey stuff takes up half the game is a big bummer. Combat looks right up my alley but I will not wade through 30 hours of unflavored porridge for it.
I could have sworn they said the character building stuff was completely optional, like something to do if you want, but you don't have to. Granted, this is when they first announced the game, so things are obviously subject to change.
The lack of interesting combat arenas (verticality and cover are just not a thing) and repetitive enemy types really sounds of-putting.
Looking forward to playing it but going to wait till it’s discounted and the complete version with all the DLC is out.
I was turned off when the game was originally revealled, but now it has won me over. I love the balancing of turn-based combat with classic JRPG-style social links with you hanging out with the heroes.
Unfortunately from skillup's review only the gameplay part is well done. He likens the social bits to a badly written jrpg, which is saying a lot considering most jrpgs arent well written at bloody all. The social clips in his review are painful to watch.
I love xcom, love card games, and love marvel... But...
I would actually love the "tacked-on, boring, relationship building, "humanization" of heroes," IF it was good, portraying the characters in ways that made sense to their natures from the comics and exploring their relationships in an engaging way. Unfortunately, from the reviews, they seem to have had NO idea what they were doing here, and delivered a bunch of stock footage storylines that have no relevance to the actual characters.
No. The part you hate is at least half of the playtime or more.
Same. I sat through that shit to get through Persona 5 and at least SOME of that stuff was charming - or at least gave me a little peek into some aspects of Japanese daily life. This stuff looks even worse - why would you ever let me hang out with Ghost Rider and NOT have you go cruising around in the hell car looking for trouble?
I'm surprised by the reviews. I'm happy for them, but it's just not for me. I was turned off from the initial gameplay reveal. I just don't like cards. I find card mechanics are just too random and tedious for me.
Honestly baffling to me how ppl can even like a turned based card system in the first place tbh… gameplay legit stops while taking your turn, a bunch of random shit constantly all over the screen, and (with this game anyway) the graphics are PS3ish imo. But hey, it seems awesome for the ppl that like it so power to them. Diff strokes for diff folks I guess
Wait, it’s on last gen and switch? I thought it was only in current gen?
No reviews on console?
I adore XCOM so I’ll probably end up getting this, especially since the reviews are mostly good. As others have said it seems that the writing has provoked mixed reactions, but I enjoyed the “banter” in chimera squad so I imagine I won’t mind some “marvel humor” if this game has some of that kind of thing. Especially if the combat is fun
game optimization is horrible, lag, drop fps and slutter everywhere. Microtransaction to buy hero custom lol, what a scum. Character are super cringe, joke every five second like a stupid Marvel movie, you know the deal
Wow...This has been an unexpectedly good year for Marvel games.
Every time I read Marvel Snap, I forget it's a card game and think "Someone made a game about taking pictures of Marvel characters?"
Is Snap worth getting into? I love games like Hearthstone and Magic and I already know the lore. My fear is it’ll be EOS like a year in
i do love when a game ends up surprising people and being great
God. My kids bought me this because they have witnessed my unhealthy obsession with X Com 2. A game with almost limitless replayability. But this... This... Honestly what the fuck were they thinking. I have fell asleep twice trying to get through the most boring story cutscenes I have ever had the displeasure to sit through. I don't know whats going on. Dude was talking to a ghost in the library for about 10 minutes and the camera never moved and they were just talking buzzword gobbledegook bollocks and I was asleep.
Skip the dialogue and enjoy the combat instead. That’s what I’ve been doing anyway
Cant wait to play Friday! Happy to see good reviews.
Sorting the comments in here by new has been fun. It's just a string of negativity while the game continues to just rack up great review after great review. It's not all sunshine and rainbows or anything, (graphics for one look very last gen to me, and the dialogue seems spotty for sure but not nearly as insufferable as SkillUp took it), but it's probably the best reviewed major superhero game in a long time. I kind of expect some of this with my massive RPGs, frankly, and it's always felt like sacrifices had to be made here and there to get something this massive out there.
Glad this game is finally out so they can start working on X-COM 3 if they haven't already.
As a super fan of the XCom series reboot with more hours into WotC than I’d want to admit to, I have no desire to play this game and the reviews lead me to believe it will be an unpolished disappointment. But I want other people to buy it in order to keep up hope for XCom 3.
Interestingly from the write-ups the game almost sounds more Into the Breach than XCOM. Which is great by me because Into the Breach is also a strategy masterclass. But its a very different game.
I wanted this game to be good SO BADLY and I'm extremely excited at initial reviews. I've got $50 on an xbox gift card just staring at me, almost spent it on Soul Hackers 2 this week. Might wait until it's out and gets a patch or 2 to pull the trigger but so far this looks amazing.
Holy inflated review scores batman, who bought all these 9 out of 10s for this extremly mediocre game?
So freaking excited for this game regardless of what any of these reviews say. Every single thing I have seen about this game looks great and Firaxis almost always delivers top notch games. Can't wait until Friday!
The reviews are almost all positive though so yay
Jesus, I know this comment gets made over and over but what a time to be a SRPG fan.
Any word on steam deck performance?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/z8s9cn/marvels_midnight_suns_review_thread/iyd4tdh/
Skill-Up's video
I'm surprised more people are not talking about the awful dialogue in the reviews. It looks so cringe and bad.
I don't know why this game is getting the kids gloves treatment but the hype around it feels extremely disingenuous and astro-turfed.
I have zero care for marvel so I had no interest in this game.
Game is up for purchase... And so is the in-game currency. Purchasable currency is an instant nope for me. It's a shame because I was warming up to the game over time for it to be ruined at the finish line.
The writing criticisms are quite disappointing. Guess I’ll be getting this one on a decent sale.
As someone who was kind of unsure of the card system. I am glad it seemed to work out well, I liked what IGN said:
I know it isn’t officially supported on the Steam Deck yet, but I’d love to know how it runs. Have any reviews mentioned anything about it?
SkillUps review does
Does anyone know if the maps are randomly generated?
Do any of the reviews mention how it plays on Steamdeck?
Definitely on my list for grabbing it on sale.
Any idea how it performs on Switch? I usually stick to PS5 for multi platform games, but Switch is perfect for tactics games.
Not releasing until sometime next year, so I don't think anyone can know yet.
There is no reason to expect it to perform well.
The marketing was a mixed bag, initially some people seemed to think that the card based gameplay was going to lead to yet another Marvel licensed game filled with micro transactions / lootboxes.
... but it does have micro transactions
Weird that it's getting such good ratings when half of the game is essentially the social side of Persona but with extreme levels of cringe.
That's not true at all
Lots of great reviews! Hopefully people who doesnt like card games will try it anyway.
Wow, I didn't expected the reviews to be this good. I was hoping for this to turn good and I'm so glad it seems to be. Gonna buy it at launch.
Reviews on this are much better than expected. I figured the slow conversational aspect of seemingly half the game would throw a lot of people off of it.
I was holding off on this one, I love xcom but am feeling the marvel burn out. Looks like I’m picking it up after all.
Really enjoying the game ,I didn’t think I could love a card game but it’s truly a great piece of work , many heroes , different ways to play , not just a card game at all
The game trailer is a misleading false advertisement claim/claims waiting to happen! I purchased the most expensive version of this game based on what an employee at GameStop told me! He stated that this game was like the Spider-Man games using the same mechanics! Which was a straight up lie! I hate card based games like this where you have to play a card to use powers on someone or something! I give it a 3/10 rating score and that’s only because the graphics and visuals were good! And before someone gets uptight and starts going off and bashing me I have a right to give my opinion of the game! If you like the game then awesome but I don’t and that’s my opinion!
the game looks rushed Pubg 3D movement when running around and wtf is that T-pose falling off a height no basic physics and little to no Facial Expressions when talking and interacting with other NPC; Combat lacks basic stuff like running out of time to make a turn and overall other character's fighting the NPC's with animation until I make a turn not just standing still and watching them it's like they forgot about time in this game and the bugs, of course, it crashes, of course, it has bugs because they can patch it later right because the story is still playable right? to hell with that I say. i hope they can improve on these I know this game was made for the masses but I'm just so disappointed by the titles released from this and last year bf 2042, cyberpunk 2077 , marvel avengers ...... and a lot more this game more or less looks like a mobile game with a pushed microtransaction also like wtf they could have easily made a few millions of dollors or more if they made this on mobile with the same things and mobile graphics lol it already has the graphics from mobile just in higher resolution lmao like (ok dudeeee) It's like they copy pasted Marvel Future revolution graphics into pc , Marvel titles are lacking a lot of things even the movies gotten worse too; only sony's spider-man 2018 is one of the best games I played in a marvel title along with the amazing spider-man 1 and 2 from activision that they removed from steam these dev's think we still live in the past and don't see the lack of development and just want to cash grab us what happend to games released with no bugs play tested by more than 100 people on different systems nowadays it's like release game in buggy messed up state because we can patch it later.
50 hours? Christ. That’s probably a pass from me but glad it’s reviewing well
I know it's just alphabetical, but it does my heart good seeing ACG as the first review people will see. Jeremy is one of the last surviving quality game reviewers not picked up by a publication and not just a corpo sellout.
Well his review seems to be one to not trust today.
Does anyone know if the bullshit non-mission stuff is skippable at all? There’s a 0% chance I’ll ever play this if it isn’t, based on SkillUps review of the shit like fishing etc, which would be sad because the actual real gameplay looks like stuff I’d love. I can’t believe they’ve fucked the game up so much with all the filler garbage
Wtf is this a card game? I thought it was going to be Xcom 2, but in Marvel.
I'm guessing with all the DLC announced this game won't be modable as Xcom 2 is. Can anyone confirm this?
My biggest issue were the "relationship scenes" seemed like it was out of the Mass Effect 1 standing still talking heads playbook. Did they improve those?
Sorry, but as a real Midnight Son fan, seeing them devolved into an angst teen club called EMOKIDS and having their origin story given to the avengers infuriates me to no end.
Nope, not touching this. I really hoped this would be Marvel Xcom, the special units in WOTC looked like an excellent blueprint for superhero units. This Fire Emblem shit is a big no-no for me and I don’t like how the combat looks.
The IGN review said the game takes about 75 hours to beat which is ridiculous. I guess the developers are okay with 99% of the people playing it never seeing it to the end.
I mean XCOM 2, thier previous game, also took about 70 hours for a full campaign if you did everything, and most fans of that game have put hundreds of hours into it.
I was expecting this to be some kinda card game schlock but it’s actually good? Cool.
It's pointless to take game reviews at face value anymore. You can't tell the truth or that company will black list your review company.
That's not true
I have no clue why you’re saying that about THIS game when Scarlet Violet literally came out 2 weeks ago were you under a rock or something?
Not really my type of game, but damn am i excited to play it