My coworkers don’t need jobs

  1. This may be because many ECEs have realized that they cannot survive on their wages, and they've moved on to better paying jobs outside of this field.

  2. Yes, the industry has been very predatory in that way, in that they rely on the labor of women who think they can afford to be paid far less than the value of their work, or women who feel they aren't yet able or experienced enough to value themselves more.

  3. People can want jobs for things other than money - personal fulfillment, a need for social interaction and community, an interest in the field. Yes, most people work because they need the money. I work because I need the money. But there are other reasons to want a job

  4. Thank you for that reminder. Often times people ask me what I’m doing staying at a low paying job? But the things you mentioned are the reasons why I stay too. And also I need to pay some bills. But I’m not in a position where I’m hurting for money either.

  5. I've worked with both groups of people. Honestly, if it wasn't for my husband having a good salary and insurance, I wouldn't be in early childhood for long. We need my income, but it's probably a 70/30 split this year.

  6. Yeah, Many of my coworkers are in a similar situation. Nothing wrong with it. I would be thrilled if I could find a partner that could make up for my lack of financial contribution. In fact, I would work in ECE forever if I could survive some how 😅

  7. Same. When I worked in the field we needed it because of the childcare discount working there. At the end of the pay period I was lucky to take home $100 after gas and childcare. I got out of the house, made some friends, learned some things and my kids socialized. It wasn't all bad, but it's crappy for those that need to survive.

  8. There are only two categories of people working in the field that I know of. Those with well off significant others, or those who are on government assistance. There’s no in between

  9. I couldn’t even do it with government assistance! I couldn’t keep myself housed long enough on my childcare pay to get into affordable housing. It’s just not possible. IME. in my city.

  10. I am one of these people. My husband takes home more in one week than I make in a month. I have this job because I enjoy it, I love children and learning beside them. I also hate having to ask for money if I want or need something, quitting a center was hell on me because it took a month to get everything cleared for head start. If my husband didn’t have his CDL I wouldn’t be able to do it. Not enough money in it.

  11. Just realized I'm becoming one of these people. ECE has always been my passion. I'm even getting my master's in it! But my bf makes way more than I do and takes on more of expenses. I work in this field because I love working with kids and I each day being different. While the money I make is significantly less than my bf's, we still need my income to thrive.

  12. Most of my current coworkers are working because they need the job. However, I used to work in a catholic preschool and almost all of those teachers had husbands with big paychecks and they were working out of either boredom or passion.

  13. Not always. We could survive on my husband's current salary alone, however we'd have to cut back a lot. I was also the breadwinner for most of our relationship, so having good money has not been something we could rely on. I'm not about to quit just because we could do it, I've invested so much into my career. With the cost of living and interest rate rises, I'm also not going to entertain the thought of just staying home. It has allowed me to do part-time work which is nice, but there were times where I absolutely felt stuck in having to work full-time and not change jobs because I was the breadwinner.

  14. I find this to be true as well. I worked in a center as a younger person (early 20s) and my coworkers that were also early 20s, were either living at home/paycheck to paycheck like me, or much older (like 40s/50s) who had been in the field for forever because their partner made enough.

  15. I'm one of those people, but I'm not doing it because I'm bored. I genuinely enjoy working with children and wanted to do something where I felt like I was contributing something good to the community. Most of my coworkers actually need their jobs, so I do realize how fortunate I am.

  16. Yes (I am included in that - my husband is a professor and I would not be able to live on this income if we separated) but I do think it's really important to differentiate between childcare and predatory capitalist companies. Of course we should be making more money but I don't know of any daycare/preschool owners that are raking in the big bucks either. If our rates go up, childcare rates go up, and that puts even more people into a risky situation in terms of their own employment/living situations.

  17. I work at a private, church based preschool. My hours are 9-12 3 days a week. My paycheck is a joke. I don’t do it for the money. I was a public school teacher before having kids and took time off. Returning to teaching part-time was perfect for me. My job is low stress, low hours, great admins, and co-workers who do it because they love it. I’m able to still be a full-time mom to my young kids. If my husband wasn’t our bread-winner I wouldn’t be able to do what I do. But also I don’t expect to get paid much for working 9 hours a week. Working full time at a daycare is very different from half day preschool. ECE just has such a wide range of possibilities.

  18. Preschool can be so fun. Its so fun to see what interests them and earn their trust. And make up silly games and sing silly songs. And count and find shapes and colors and such. And those with longer attention spans are amazing. I have a coworker who in a professional ways says preschool isn't for them, not their fav, not their cup of tea. But they rock. Sounds like a reasonably good gig. Nosy question out of curiosity, your place at full enrollment? Cuz my place is. It's the only reservation I have about my job and field, is it's hard to get quality time in when you're putting out "fires." And you have to watch vigilantly and it takes so much out of me

  19. Suuuuuure have. Monday will be my last Monday at my center. Put in my two weeks last Friday after finding a job that pays me ELEVEN more dollars than I make right now. Shout out to teachers unions in Boston. And I won’t even be a teacher! I truly wish you the best of luck!

  20. I have straight up been told by two people that I shouldn’t be going into this profession without a husband’s salary. I definitely think that this contributes to lower wages for careers that are predominantly women. Many women don’t need to make a livable wage and so then don’t demand one. We are seeing this change a little bit each year so hopefully wages will change as well.

  21. I can’t even imagine the privilege of being able to work a job because you’re bored. I need the money. And even what I make is barely enough for what my labour is worth. If any rich men are reading this and need a poor wife, I’m available.

  22. I used to do it ft as a “regular job”, but ever since I’ve had kids, I work at a MDO two days a week, and I think I’m the only one there that needs the money still. I just can’t really do much else because we all know the crazy cost of childcare. We just have to make do with what my husband makes. I think I keep about 25% of what I earn in a month. The rest goes to gas and the tuition cost for my two kids 😒

  23. I noticed that if my coworkers were single they usually had a second job. If they were married most of em could afford to not work

  24. I worked at $10/hr in ECE as a single mother in Austin, shortly before it was wildly expensive but still pricey. 2/5, loved the kids, don’t recommend trying to live off that.

  25. If I didn't have to work because my husband made enough and I wanted a job out of boredom the LAST job I would take is a job as an ECE. I'd volunteer at a pet shelter or go work at a plant nursery or he'll, I'd rather bag groceries at Walmart. Maybe these women don't need the paycheck, but you can't do that job without a passion and willingness and the fact that they are there when they don't have to be but because they choose to be, earns massive respect from me and should from you, as well.

  26. I can’t lie. I worked in ECE, I did not need the money, however it is my degree. I have a bachelors in early childhood education, an ASD cert, as well as my RBT. I ended my ECE career as an assistant director/education coordinator building curriculum for a school. I made $16/hr.

  27. I HATE working with people like this. Both because it’s demoralizing to have the stakes be so different between us, and because it allows businesses with bad business models to continue underpaying staff. If a job only pays well enough to attract stay-at-home moms or retired people, it doesn’t pay enough.

  28. I have to work in ECE so I have childcare for my daughter. I’m the breadwinner since a few years back when my husband became disabled and… I just never left the field. We wouldn’t have childcare if I did. All of my schooling is in ECE, it’s all I know and I really don’t have experience in anything other than it. Starting in a new industry would be a pay cut by a few dollars an hour.

  29. YUP. It is not a job that you can have if you have to support yourself independently. That’s why I’ve sort of gone back and forth from my job , as a single mom. Sometimes I’d work in restaurants. I’ve still never been able to support myself independently actually but that’s another story. Anyway. ECE is not where it is ever gonna happen. I’m currently working on my degree to be a certified teacher , people complain about teacher salaries but 50k+ is wayyyyy more livable than I’d get in childcare which ranges from minimum wage to less than $20/hr, and I’ve never heard of 20/hr, 18 is the highest I’ve heard of in my city from a lead with an associated and 10yrs+ experience.

  30. My husband’s salary could pay all of our bills and put food on the table. My income is not required, but it makes it to where we can do fun extra things with our kiddos. I enjoy working. Especially now that they are all in full day school.

  31. Yep. I could never support myself on $13/hour. My husband has a decent paying job with benefits, which is why I’ve been able to be in this field for as long as I have.

  32. I noticed this as well as a former daycare teacher. I was an ECE major for a little bit in college (now I have my bachelors in education). One thing I did notice was a lot of the girls in my classes came from well off families and chose ECE because their parents told them they needed a college education, even though after speaking with many of them, most just wanted a rich spouse and have babies after college. The few I do keep up did just that lol. I married a well off man (he wasn’t well off when we started dating though).

  33. I am not in ECE but one of my co-workers worked solely to pay cash for her kids college tuition. Her entire pay just went to the colleges. Everything else plus savings was covered by her husband's income.

  34. I did this for a long time. I loved my center. I didn’t do it out of boredom though. I genuinely loved the kids and wanted to do something that would make a difference. Ultimately, I left for a role in a public school that paid a bit more, while still being a vital role. It would be a livable wage if I chose to work summers. I love the hours. It leaves me with summers off to travel and train (athletics). My own disadvantage is that, while I do have a BA, I am not a certified teacher. I did wonder why some of my coworkers who needed the money stayed because even retail paid more! It is sad that we, as a society undervalue those who teach and care for our children!

  35. I taught Pre K at a center. I liked it. They left me alone, pay wasn’t great but it was ok and I worked 6.5 hours a day. Salaried but no benefits. They helped pay for classes so I was planning to stay a few years.

  36. I am one of those people. I have such a passion for working in ECE, and even though I’m paid a lot more than what I see in this page sometimes, I could never survive off this pay with what I also have to pay for my son to attend. If my wife didn’t make what she makes, I would absolutely never be able to be a preschool teacher. Not a chance.

  37. I don’t really need a job because I have money saved and very low expenses as a college student and my parents still help. I still want to work though, I’m trying to get a job now. In the last childcare center I worked at the lead teacher I worked under was kind of what you describe, married to a cop, but while they could’ve survived on his salary her bringing in an income equal to about a third of his certainly made their lives more comfortable.

  38. I work in ECE because it's the only option I have that includes childcare affordably. I've also been a SAHM for almost 2 years now so the interaction and getting out is nice and all, but I'll be honest I'd have picked something else if I didn't need childcare for my daughter while I work 😅 I can get socialization and get paid $3 more an hour to fold laundry at a hotel and not have tiny lives in my hands, but here we are.

  39. My center offers 15$ an hour with a CDA and no benefits. We primarily have teenagers and most people burn out in a year or 2 because they realize there is no way to move up. I have worked ECE off and on for the last 10 years... I only still work there because it allows my children to receive childcare at a reduced rate and I can make some supplementary money. If my husband didn't have a better paying job with benefits I would be screwed.

  40. I'm one of the people who worked because it got me out of the house and gave me some exercise, not because I needed the income. My husband makes enough to support us, but the additional income I got from working helped with emergency things like pet's vet bills, or car needing repairs, etc, so that it didn't take away from his money that was already allotted for other things and didn't suck money out of our savings. Now that I'm pregnant and high-risk (with a very bad back), I don't work, so things are a bit tighter regarding spending money.

  41. Yeah my entire nursery is people who have a breadwinner spouse or younger women who still live with their parents. Only part time positions and no benefits are offered (aside from bringing your child to work with you for free). I know that can’t be ideal for the industry as a whole BUT everyone I work with is genuinely happy to be there and not at all stressed. It’s the best work environment I’ve ever been in. Hours are flexible, pay in generous, and I feel seen and heard by my boss.

  42. It's a symptom of who is attracted to a vastly underpaid job (I won't call it a career) that is more respectable than working at McDonald's.

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