I love DBZ, but the Super fan base are WAY nicer.

  1. They're being agist. By "DBZ fans" they mean GenX/Millennials who have watched the series for a long time, and by "DBS fans" they mean people who grew up on DBS and watch DBZ as a back log to understanding DBS' roots. This person is likely the later, and probably gets griff from older people because they ask simple questions that would be common knowledge if they had started the series at the beginning instead of the end. Also, as a "DBZ fan", we've all asked hypothetical questions in the past, argued them, and shat on each other well before the new generation started watching. It's kind hypocritical of us to get irritated at this, but considering our generation have posted numerous articles and discussions about many of the questions people have about the series, it comes off as lazy not to just google the answers. Plus, criticizing a story with modern sensibilities that was created some 30 years ago seems ludicrous, and makes for really stupid arguments.

  2. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  3. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  4. Sometimes I wonder what the age demographic is.I’m in my 30’s, I grew up watching DBZ and think it is largely better than super. HOWEVER when people trash talk super they also forget how fucking flawed Z was and gloss over it because nostalgia.

  5. I think it's a bit goofy to act like all of dragon ball has a bad story and is just about the fights. The fights in the cell saga were mostly some of the weakest in the series but the cell saga as a whole is still loved because of the story. I'd argue the Saiyan and Namek story arcs had a great plot too. The final episode of gt doesn't have any fighting really, it's all about the story and themes of the series but it's still considered one of the best dragon ball episodes ever. Even more recently the battle of gods movie is all about the story and comedy with minimal fighting.

  6. Son, that shit is so fucking annoying. YouTubers screaming about how Gohan Beast is stronger than Black Frieza based on literally nothing. At least with Frieza we have measurable feats. He closed a 7 year power gap in 4 months. So of course after 10 years he's gonna be busted.

  7. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  8. Objectively, I don’t really care who’s who. If you like Dragon Ball, good on ya. You like Z? Great! You hate GT? To each their own. You think Super was lazy? You’re free to think that, I’m not gonna change your mind.

  9. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  10. Well everytime someone says anything bad about super, they get trashtalked. Happened to me too several times. Super fans are also toxic.

  11. If we are talking strictly subreddits yeah I’d agree with you. The vibe in the Z subreddit is very gate keepey and “I’m better than you”

  12. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  13. Who are the fans of Super? Would really like to understand the demographics and how it spreads from generation to generation. I read Super and I am happy with having my little childhood treat every month. I don’t expect more and I am grateful for it. Does it make any sense considering previous canon? Not a lot. The power scales and change of hair colours are highly debatable in my opinion. Yet, it is fine. I don’t expect more from it. It is not defining me or inspiring me as when I was a child so my expectations also changed from it.

  14. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  15. It's amazing how rude some of the commenters are being to OP for having an opinion. Is it really that difficult to respect people and not tear each other down?

  16. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  17. As someone who has been following DB for almost 30 years the fanbase is very easy to inderstand.Before Super there were many fans who thought Z was inferior to the Original DB. Fans of DBZ hated GT, now people hate Super. I promise, when the new Super anime comes out some fans will hate it and look back at the original run of Super with nostalgia, until another DB replaces the new one and that gets the hate. It has happened before and it will continue to happen.

  18. Sorta sounds like every generation of Subaru WRXs. I'm a fan of the entirety of Toriyama's Dragonball series. I have issues and gripes here and there but grateful to have 4 series, a bevy of video games and so many movies. Can we all agree that if you're here you love DB?

  19. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  20. Awww. Thanks! I see a lot of people saying that they’re fans of Dragon Ball in general, but I’m actually a Dragon Ball Super fan specifically. Toyotarou is the GOAT.

  21. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  22. This is a very weird way for you to separate DBZ fans lol. This is probably just a post you made for karma and to bitch. It is what it is I guess.

  23. I have gone to,say,opening of dbz on youtube just to enjoy it and the amount of elitists in the comments is more than what you’re assuming right now.

  24. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  25. I grew up on DBZ and recently watched Super. Z is a classic but I thought Super was way better. It’s some of the same voice actors but it actually feels like they’re trying this time. Folks often complain that Goku and Vegeta get all the glory in Super but, while that is still largely true, other characters get worked into the story more than they did in Z, especially during the ToP. I also like how Super leans more into the comedy aspect to balance out the despair.

  26. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  27. It's because it's painfully obvious that DBS doesn't give a shit about logical power scaling and since the show/manga doesn't take itself seriously, neither do we.

  28. Super is objectively worse than Z. Doesn't make it bad but that's simply the truth. Even original Dragonball beats it at certain moments.

  29. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  30. Most DBZ fans remember a time when GT and AF were the only things after Z. A lot of hair. So much hair.. maybe they’re mad that it took toriyama 20+ years to retcon stuff.

  31. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  32. Super feels like it knows how much I love dragon ball and it's movies/games, but also know how much I dislike gt. At the same time it seems to be willing to not only listen to the fans but learn from gts mistakes. Super is imperfect tho and I can't sit here and ignore huge flaws that super has like dumb Goku black nonsense and other stuff

  33. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  34. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  35. Unfortunately, it looks like your karma amount is pretty low. Users need to have a combined total of at least 60 post/comment karma to participate in this subreddit.

  36. Yeah,the more nostalgic-based part of the fanbase (Z and GT mostly) tends to be genuinely terrible.

  37. The only explanation is jealousy. DBZ fans had to watch 20 episodes just to see what really happens next time on DBZ. Super fans got to get into the fighting and action on sight and they got a dang TOP. But I appreciate all things DB!

  38. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  39. The problem is that there's a demarcation at all. Those who've watched only Super are not avid proponents of the series as a whole and are likelier to be younger hype-chasers (like those who only got into DBS bc they put it in Fortnite).

  40. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

  41. The violence game just yesterday I looked wasn’t really their fault. It’s so that it was much more available to air at different TV channels as it was more just,kid friendly in that regard. As for transformations I will give to this day the trunks “Rage” form has not been too explained yet,some people say it might be exclusive to hybrid saiyan mixing super saiyan with human power,though again it is not explained. For me the Kale thing was fine in the sense that they included the concept of LSSJ in Dbs by this way so that they have this power,I guess. I think by that it’s alright excluding some niche moments like when she was Berserk and,ahem,walked through Goku blue’s beam unphased,I feel like that really had not much meaning other than probably just the reference to DBZ Broly and the scene where he did it(although I think they should’ve had Goku in SSJ like back then instead of max form just because. Hell go god maybe not blue). I like both equally personally. Fuck the manga though,I’m talking show here.

  42. It’s not the show quality I’m referring to. It’s just general DB chit-chat. I get more engagement from Super fans than solely DBZ ones. I talk DBZ with Super fans more than DB/DBZ exclusive ones.

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