Imagine being the mobik in tan surrendering...then suddenly dozens of rounds fired right over your face and an explosion...but somehow you're still okay. What a trip.
That guy that fell over backpedaling as he fired probably saved the group as maybe he fell on his own grenade? But you'd expect more damage to him though and i didn't see an explosion?
Guy in the blue pants is just trying to be as still as possible and show he’s zero threat. Dude just wants to live while Nakita Rambo does a final stand only to get shot a bunch
I had to watch it a second time to see that they didn't get lit up. That's amazing restraint on both the part of the Ukrainians and the surrendering Russians.
Probably due to the thick underbrush. A rifle barrel can get snagged up pretty easy. Also can be better when handling detainees, you can compress a pistol closer to your body and it’s harder to grab and manipulate than a muzzle of a rifle. At short range, the round is still effective.
Funny you mention that. There’s footage of a remarkably similar situation from WWII where a marine shoots a surrendering Japanese soldier with an M1911 as they’re clearing out caves. Forget which island. I’ll see if I can find it.
Much earlier in the war there was a small Ukrainian squad that snuck up to a Russian IFV. An older soldier went on top with his pistol, opened the hatch and opened up. Someone interviewing him mentioned how he wasn't afraid because he had his 'Glock with 17 brothers inside of it' or something like that. And it was all recorded. Pretty big post on this sub too.
I used my 9mm in Afghanistan once. I was assigned as a M240B gunner, so I carried a side-arm 9mm Baretta for close quarters. I was also assigned an M4 that was only brought on missions where we set-up OP's and my 240 was left on a fortified position guarded in shifts so I could sleep and eat. After my shift on my way to pick up my M4 our OP got close ambushed from the exact wall I was walking along. I pulled my baretta and fired 4 shots in the direction we took fire from before it malfunctioned. I ran back and took up my 240 position. Fuck Baretta magazines.
This is mr blue tracksuit in the foreground, from the video from a day or so ago, the guy that was shivering his ass off, now i know why, and it wasn't just from the cold.
A lot of them did a lot of things like that, liek played possum amongst their own dead after a failed human wave attack and then when it was night attack the Americans in their foxholes, some marines made a point of bayoneting everybody they came across just to make sure they were actually "dead".
Same went for 12th SS Panzer Div. They were fanatics to the bone, they pissed off Canadian soldiers by having POWs murdered in horrible ways, false surrenders, used corpses as traps, and so on. The retaliations by Canadians depicted similar brutality they bestowed on Germans in WWI by beating up POWs who resisted/false surrendered, shot down anyone who has no intentions to surrender when faced with barrels, or who dared to reach for grenades. Think of like 12th SS as Imperial Japanese Army on Okinawa.
I’m thinking he chose to sling his rifle because of how dense that brush is. He was also likely planning on rummaging through items and maybe directing POWs so he opted for the pistol so he could move easier. But yeah I think that’s the first video I’ve seen of it
He didn’t go down, and I don’t speak the language but seems like he said he got hit by it judging by the way our camera guy shot the dead body a few extra times after their conversation
People often underestimate how much people can take before they die. There has been several videos from Ukraine where someone takes fire from six rifles and the guy is still not dead and is trying to shoot back.
A lot of Ukrainians were forced to learn it back years ago and the closer you get to the border the more you come across it so some people speak both for ease of communication etc.
This is nothing new, when a third party separates two sides that have a lot in common (language, culture). the best example is the war in Yugoslavia in 1992
I find it extremely sad most of all. All because of some narcissist psycho dictator's delusional imperialist fantasies, now these Russian young men are forced to go kill people who could have been their cousins or classmates in another time
The yelling Ukrainian actually shames whole video one of the russians because they are there and not home. Like why you here, force? Who forced you? Your nation? You city? Don't lie to me.
Not to mention endangering his comrades as the granade could've killed them, and the Ukrainians would have a green light and good incentive to kill them all
From reading other comments the cameraman said "don't shoot these ones" (meaning the POW's he was watching over) and I assume the rest of it is "he pulled a grenade!" with the usual amount of Eastern European swearing thrown in, so like "fuck he fucking pulled a fucking grenade, fuck!"
Seeing video and footage like this it’s no surprise why so many combat vets come home and deal with ptsd. How can you ever go back to civilian life after going through something like this. God Bless all the Ukrainians and her Allies fighting this war
It's a war crime to fake a surrender, for good reason. If many people do it, nobody will believe the others may want to surrender anymore and just shoot them on the first opportunity.
You ended up endangering the life of your comrades by pulling a completely useless grenade attack that killed absolutely no one except your chance of an open casket.
Looks like his pistol had a malfunction the first one or two shots. Light primer strike or something? Edit: you can see the hammer strike a couple times with no bang
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His buddies are lucky UA army doesn’t casually engage in war crimes like Russia. After that false surrender I don’t know if I’d have the restraint to avoid popping off all of his buddies.
12 round double action Fort-12/17. Look at the length of that trigger pull, he tries to shoot the gun twice before he actually pulls the trigger hard enough.
I remember a couple weeks back people were commenting about how it's bizarre that the Ukrainians were just letting the people surrendering run up to their position. It was met with people talking about how this isn't like the conflict in the Middle East and how Russians wouldn't do that. Like, "they wouldn't do that, would they?" is not how you should conduct business.
They were telling all the soldiers to save two grenades for surrender and blow them up. There is video of it. Just one more war crime. If they start doing that they will become less inclined to take surrendering soldiers. The Russians don’t want the Ukrainians taking POWs. That way he can use it as a deterrence for his army so that they don’t quit fighting and surrender.
Those other Russians are SOOOO fucking lucky the UA exercised restraint and professionalism. It would have been pretty understandable if it had gone a different direction and they just lit them all up.
Bit of a stupid question, But why is so much smoke coming out of the barrel? It seems weirdly excessive. It also looks like the Gun of the guy filming misfired a few times.
Fake surrendering is a war crime. War crimes are not crimes because of war, but because of the peace that will (hopefully) come after. If you can't trust someone is surrendering, it makes peace harder, no matter the outcome. Even if Russia wins, they will face guerilla warfare in all places, similar to what Americans faced in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I hope the Ukrainians set an example for treatment of POW in the future. No reason to hurt them. Don't really need information out of them, Russia already broadcasts it all on unsecured radios.
Imagine being the mobik in tan surrendering...then suddenly dozens of rounds fired right over your face and an explosion...but somehow you're still okay. What a trip.
The guy filming explicitly said "don't shoot these", which probably made them feel safer in this situation.
Pants would have been pissed.
Imagine being finally captured and in safety but the one special ivan you never liked anyways tries to pull a stunt.
At least he wore the brown pants.
This dude really just blew himself up
This guy was probably subject to a bunch of propaganda that the Ukrainians would torture him if captured. Sad that they believe it.
He was using martyrdom perk, did not know the lobby does not allow players with it.
That guy that fell over backpedaling as he fired probably saved the group as maybe he fell on his own grenade? But you'd expect more damage to him though and i didn't see an explosion?
Fucking moron would’ve probably ate and shit better he ever did in his life in captivity than his shit county.
The footage coming out of this war is outrageous
This entire war is outrageous.
I must be blind cause i see sticks and shrugs, i saw him pop that guy in the end. That's about it haha
First war really we get such high definition footage of actual combat
Christ. This is why surrendering is a fucking nightmare for both sides.
Cameraman also said "don't shoot these ones".
Are we not gonna talk about comrade in the fn Ruski track pants in active combat?
Guy in the blue pants is just trying to be as still as possible and show he’s zero threat. Dude just wants to live while Nakita Rambo does a final stand only to get shot a bunch
Yea, smart and lucky for not being in their buddy’s blasting radius one can only hope to do the same in that scenario.
I had to watch it a second time to see that they didn't get lit up. That's amazing restraint on both the part of the Ukrainians and the surrendering Russians.
I’d be less likely to allow Prisoners that close To me if I had to deal With this
What did Lt. Spears say in Band of Brothers?
POWs are lucky they didn't all get sprayed imo
There's a good reason perfidy is a war crime.
I do believe this is the first time I've seen a pistol used in combat
I also believe this is the first time I’ve seen blue Adidas joggers used in combat
Yeah and it light primer striked, what are the odds 💀
No surprise because it’s a fucking patrol police. In other footage one of them asking russian “you know who’s captured you? A fucking patrol police!”
Probably due to the thick underbrush. A rifle barrel can get snagged up pretty easy. Also can be better when handling detainees, you can compress a pistol closer to your body and it’s harder to grab and manipulate than a muzzle of a rifle. At short range, the round is still effective.
Funny you mention that. There’s footage of a remarkably similar situation from WWII where a marine shoots a surrendering Japanese soldier with an M1911 as they’re clearing out caves. Forget which island. I’ll see if I can find it.
Much earlier in the war there was a small Ukrainian squad that snuck up to a Russian IFV. An older soldier went on top with his pistol, opened the hatch and opened up. Someone interviewing him mentioned how he wasn't afraid because he had his 'Glock with 17 brothers inside of it' or something like that. And it was all recorded. Pretty big post on this sub too.
"Remember - switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading."
and to see it misfire the first two rounds?? hammmer fell twice before he started blasting.
I used my 9mm in Afghanistan once. I was assigned as a M240B gunner, so I carried a side-arm 9mm Baretta for close quarters. I was also assigned an M4 that was only brought on missions where we set-up OP's and my 240 was left on a fortified position guarded in shifts so I could sleep and eat. After my shift on my way to pick up my M4 our OP got close ambushed from the exact wall I was walking along. I pulled my baretta and fired 4 shots in the direction we took fire from before it malfunctioned. I ran back and took up my 240 position. Fuck Baretta magazines.
fort14 pistol right?
Anyone else notice the hammer falls twice without firing?
It's probably much more convenient for handling captives....
Am I crazy or did that guy have to triple tap that first primer to get it to go off?
Translation:
Here's another one that is slightly different from
It would be funny if it wasnt so sad
Lmao, these guys must be stoked to be able to wear their Adidas combat joggers. Soon -20C is coming, we will see a lot of frozen bodies
Pacific vibes.
While it might inevitably lead to that, these guys showed some fucking tremendous self control!
This is mr blue tracksuit in the foreground, from the video from a day or so ago, the guy that was shivering his ass off, now i know why, and it wasn't just from the cold.
Yeah, i think it was severe shock at having being almost killed, which he would have been if he hadn't got a bout of smarts and surrendered.
Which video do you mean? I'm pretty curious.
Same here. In the first video I thought he was shivering from being cold and sick, maybe he had Covid. After seeing this video, it makes sense.
Anyone got a link for the vid?
Yeah I was wondering if it was the same guy.
Do you maybe have a link to the other video he is in, mate?
This reminds me of Japanese soldiers hiding grenade in their body and fake surrender to try to bring down more people with him during ww2
A lot of them did a lot of things like that, liek played possum amongst their own dead after a failed human wave attack and then when it was night attack the Americans in their foxholes, some marines made a point of bayoneting everybody they came across just to make sure they were actually "dead".
Same went for 12th SS Panzer Div. They were fanatics to the bone, they pissed off Canadian soldiers by having POWs murdered in horrible ways, false surrenders, used corpses as traps, and so on. The retaliations by Canadians depicted similar brutality they bestowed on Germans in WWI by beating up POWs who resisted/false surrendered, shot down anyone who has no intentions to surrender when faced with barrels, or who dared to reach for grenades. Think of like 12th SS as Imperial Japanese Army on Okinawa.
One of the captives is in sport outfit
Special Military Adidas.
Abidas four stripes. Lol
yeah he was in the other video a day or so ago. Blue adidas tracksuit pants.
That's one of the prestige outfit unlocks.
Trust-a-Bro
Pull into combat after gym class
Video of these captives being questioned, released couple days ago:
never seen a soldier using a pistol in a combat
I’m thinking he chose to sling his rifle because of how dense that brush is. He was also likely planning on rummaging through items and maybe directing POWs so he opted for the pistol so he could move easier. But yeah I think that’s the first video I’ve seen of it
Pretty muted grenade, probably partially covered by that guy.
iphones have a decibal limit that eliminates overtly loud sounds and turns snaps into thumps almost
He didn’t go down, and I don’t speak the language but seems like he said he got hit by it judging by the way our camera guy shot the dead body a few extra times after their conversation
Russians are told that it’s better to blow yourself up then get captured by Ukrainians. Propaganda at its best.
🎼Dumb ways to die, so many dumb ways to die🎶
This song was banned in Russia as "Suicide propaganda".
Dude was 4 hours from dry clothes and a hot meal and he decides to go out like this
“blow your self up, with a grenade!”
That last head shot is the military way of poking something with a stick. Is he dead? Is he a zombie? I better make sure—
Safer to check with a bullet than to risk your own life.
People often underestimate how much people can take before they die. There has been several videos from Ukraine where someone takes fire from six rifles and the guy is still not dead and is trying to shoot back.
Yup deadchecking
Somehow it feels so weird and creepy that both sides are speaking Russian and can so easily communicate with each other.
And that also happens a lot in the Middle East i’ve seen videos of soldiers cursing each other in Arabic
Putin’s legacy is Russian speaking Slavs killing Russian speaking Slavs.
Russian was the language of the Soviet Union and thr vast majority of Ukranians can speak it. About 30% speak it as their first language.
A lot of Ukrainians were forced to learn it back years ago and the closer you get to the border the more you come across it so some people speak both for ease of communication etc.
This is nothing new, when a third party separates two sides that have a lot in common (language, culture). the best example is the war in Yugoslavia in 1992
I find it extremely sad most of all. All because of some narcissist psycho dictator's delusional imperialist fantasies, now these Russian young men are forced to go kill people who could have been their cousins or classmates in another time
Imagine dying face down in a forest for the pride of a weak little man like Putin.
right?!? how in the hell are they convinced to go through hell and give up their life for what?!?
Only warcrime that'll get instant justice.
Is it a warcrime to fight back after surrendering?
Japanese did this a few times in WW2. The allies just started shooting wounded or surrendering Japanese troops.
Fucking idiot
The yelling Ukrainian actually shames whole video one of the russians because they are there and not home. Like why you here, force? Who forced you? Your nation? You city? Don't lie to me.
I've seen that a number of times now.
He remembered the thing with the two grenades ...
is that something similar to the 3 seashells?
Feigning surrender is a war crime.
Well he got the death penalty!
Not to mention endangering his comrades as the granade could've killed them, and the Ukrainians would have a green light and good incentive to kill them all
Translation please
From reading other comments the cameraman said "don't shoot these ones" (meaning the POW's he was watching over) and I assume the rest of it is "he pulled a grenade!" with the usual amount of Eastern European swearing thrown in, so like "fuck he fucking pulled a fucking grenade, fuck!"
Here is the one:
Geez what a dumb idea, definition of fuck around and find out.
Was probably a suicide. Surprised nobody has already suggested this on the post.
Find out what?
I can’t see what everyone’s talking about and I’ve watched the video 5 times
He could’ve had a warm bed and chow this time the very next day. And eventually return home after the war. Oh well. A Russian doing a Russian thing.
Who knows if Russia will want their POWs back
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Nice to see someone confirming his kill
Seeing video and footage like this it’s no surprise why so many combat vets come home and deal with ptsd. How can you ever go back to civilian life after going through something like this. God Bless all the Ukrainians and her Allies fighting this war
It's a war crime to fake a surrender, for good reason. If many people do it, nobody will believe the others may want to surrender anymore and just shoot them on the first opportunity.
And the person who does it should expect to be shot dead instantly
cause of death: stupidity
Guy says "Calm down, don't shoot these ones" referring to the ones on the ground near them.
They went full LAPD on that guy.
Only missing was "show me your hands" to the dead body
are we just gonna ignore the fact that one of the russians is wearing blue adidas 3 stripe sweatpants to combat? cant get more stereotypical than that
what's more interesting is i can't see gloves on any of them, that's going to suck big time as it gets colder.
You ended up endangering the life of your comrades by pulling a completely useless grenade attack that killed absolutely no one except your chance of an open casket.
It would really suck to surrender and then get killed because some idiot throws a grenade at you captor and you.
Tracksuit Timmy decided to sit this one out.
I like at the end how he shot him, just one more time.. for good measure
All he had to do was not that.
Nice army issue addidas 🥴
The Kremlin are now even sending the gopniks to the front lines it seems
Looks like his pistol had a malfunction the first one or two shots. Light primer strike or something? Edit: you can see the hammer strike a couple times with no bang
"Remember - switching to your pistol is always faster than reloading."
It's an older reference, but it checks out.
BIGGER WATERMARKS! PLEASE! but insane footage... this is all the cruel war storys we heard of in real time enfolding in front of the world ... in HD optics ...
Imagine any future documentaries on this war.
Buddy thought he was the main character.
Great job “Airborne1126”
Seen blue trousers guy yesterday right?
Man fuck this watermark
A sure way to get the Ukrainians to start a "no prisoners" policy.
Rule #2..... double tap
The last Ukrainian soldier followed the 2nd rule of Zombie Land. Always double tap.
Look another war crime. Pretending to surrender then attacking is a war crime. Not that it matters at this point it's just another on a large pile.
Correct me if I'm wrong but i do believe fake surrender is a war crime
Ahhh yes. The war is going so well for them that they are now suicide bombing. Pure desperation.
This stupid Russian almost got all his comrades killed because he was a muppet.
Russians using Waffen SS surrender tactics.
Would be soldiers fighting a war in nylon Adidas pants and galoshes - unreal
All those moments will be lost in time , like tears in the rain...
Afghan, Afghan Afghan…
Replace black tulip with a train car.
His buddies are lucky UA army doesn’t casually engage in war crimes like Russia. After that false surrender I don’t know if I’d have the restraint to avoid popping off all of his buddies.
Yeah no kidding, their commanding officer is definitely the star of the show here. That man saved the lives of those other three forsure.
What an idiot.
12 round double action Fort-12/17. Look at the length of that trigger pull, he tries to shoot the gun twice before he actually pulls the trigger hard enough.
I remember a couple weeks back people were commenting about how it's bizarre that the Ukrainians were just letting the people surrendering run up to their position. It was met with people talking about how this isn't like the conflict in the Middle East and how Russians wouldn't do that. Like, "they wouldn't do that, would they?" is not how you should conduct business.
This is why Perfidy is against the laws of war
Isn’t false surrender a war crime?
What a stupid and incompetent final act, immortalised forever on the internet.
Killing yourself for... Putin. Must be mentally ill.
They were telling all the soldiers to save two grenades for surrender and blow them up. There is video of it. Just one more war crime. If they start doing that they will become less inclined to take surrendering soldiers. The Russians don’t want the Ukrainians taking POWs. That way he can use it as a deterrence for his army so that they don’t quit fighting and surrender.
Me surrendering to my buddies:
Fuckin employee of the month over here.
The guy with three stripes on his pants must be a pretty high rank.
Blue adidas tracksuit: +2 speed & agility
The amount of war crimes being committed on camera by the Russians is insane.
That's a war crime, actually
That Ukrainian guy was like 'oh shit' and proceeds to light the guy up. That's some Japanese WW2 tactics. Dirty as hell.
Bro if they do this again they’re gonna start treating POWS like the Japanese 💀
A Russian soldier committing a war crime? No way - they'd never.
Title should say tries to use a grenade 🤣
Those other Russians are SOOOO fucking lucky the UA exercised restraint and professionalism. It would have been pretty understandable if it had gone a different direction and they just lit them all up.
pretending to surrender and then attack is a war crime isn't it?
Yes.
Translation would be nice. I had to watch it a few times and read the comments before I knew what was happening.
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“Hold up I need to put my big ass tag over a video that isn’t mine where all the action is happening.”
Bit of a stupid question, But why is so much smoke coming out of the barrel? It seems weirdly excessive. It also looks like the Gun of the guy filming misfired a few times.
Cheap or old ammo will do that
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One could almost understand those nutjobs being promised paradise, but this guy was promised a Lada for the family...
"oh no baby, what is you doing?"
Looks like the hammer of his pistol didn’t properly strike the primer at first
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So next time they won't capture them but shoot? Great move 👍
That last bullet did it. He's no longer a threat.
Hey guys, you think he's dead?
why did his hammer strike a couple of times before the first round flies?
You mean the click-click-boom? Probably Saliva
Fake surrendering is a war crime. War crimes are not crimes because of war, but because of the peace that will (hopefully) come after. If you can't trust someone is surrendering, it makes peace harder, no matter the outcome. Even if Russia wins, they will face guerilla warfare in all places, similar to what Americans faced in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Last stand perk
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That's how you get no quarter. It didn't help the Japanese on Okinawa, nor the Argentinians at Goose Green and it won't help the Russians either.
You do that and right or wrong Ukrainian soldiers will stop accepting surrenders. You can’t figuratively throw up the white flag then attack.
Well there's the fake surrender war crime, what's left on the list that Russia has yet to do?
I hope the Ukrainians set an example for treatment of POW in the future. No reason to hurt them. Don't really need information out of them, Russia already broadcasts it all on unsecured radios.
Wearing Adidas track pants in a war. Russia/Ukraine level 100
The blue tracksuit pants with the white stripes is living up to every Russian stereotype I've seen in the movies
Is that a Fort-12 the cameraman is using? First time I've seen one of those rather than a PM so far.
screw whoever put that text over the main area of what we would want to see
So then he wasn’t surrendering.
Not sure if anyone else has mentioned this. Did camera man's pistol misfire the first time he shot? I feel like I saw the hammer drop but not fire.