As a queer person from COS, this is absolutely appalling and disgusting. It’s true that the perp might identify this way, but I highly doubt it. Seems either 1) too convenient and wants to drop the hate crimes charges and/or 2) is openly mocking us.
Absolutely just trying to get the hate charges dropped. The lawyer probably believe non-binary is a lot harder to disprove than if the kid claimed to be queer or trans.
More people need to recognize this instead of taking his defense attorneys statement at face value. Especially considering the fact that he used homophobic slurs when going into a rage with his mother.
This could be true about this person, and it could also be a ploy to try to get rid of the hate crime charges by the defense. Right now, I'm putting this in the category of how the Planned Parenthood shooter here in 2015 was allegedly a transgendered leftist as originally reported by the Gateway Pundit before the gender misclassification on that assholes DL was determined to be a clerical error. More information will come out over time. But the violent rhetoric of the right is absolutely killing people in marginalized communities across this nation.
Thinking this guy's public defender has already been appointed and met with the shooter and started a media blitz to try and sway public opinion is naive at best.
Maybe. I guess. Follow the logic though. You're the lawyer for this person... What does this play get you? Wouldn't it lead to judgment/decision toward multiple homicide rather than homicide motivated by hate crimes? Would that significantly impact conviction? Mass shooting perpetrators are still a paramount risk to society at large and still result in the heaviest of convictions. What does this achieve?
They can still get fucked. They’re a murderer. They’re responsible so causing a rift in the community which is coming back together stronger despite their actions. They. Can. Rot.
Sounds like a right wing strategy to point the blame at the lgbtq community and "their violence". Distract from any claims that it's part of right wing violence.
Whether it’s a right wing strategy or not. The right wing media is for sure gonna eat this up and point fingers. We won’t hear the end if it. This is just the break the they need to push an agenda.
Trump was the first successful presidential canidate from any party to win by running on a LGBTQ equal rights platform. Even Obama was against gay marriage.
They should get the chair. They won’t. The State of Colorado does not have a death penalty. So for the rest of their lives everyone in Colorado will pay to support this person.
Which is cheaper than us supporting the death penalty. The cost of mandatory appeals pushes the cost of a death penalty case way past anything resembling the cost of life in prison. Never mind the ethical cost.
They can go f**k themselves.
Hopefully their name stays as they/them and is erased from the collective memory.
Was/were
I really hope the media doesn't get distracted by this; they senslessly killed members of lhbtq community.
This piece of information will very quickly erase this tragedy from the collective memory, if you know what I mean.
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Yes let’s all reverse course on blaming wide swaths of people. Maybe sooner next time?
Neat. Still a violent murderer.
Wow! Anyways, still a murderer who targeted a specific group.
Also only according to their lawyer
Right, does it really matter if you’re a part of the very same people you hate? Still targeted, still hateful.
and unlike the right, we still admonish them for what they did. You know why? Because normal people won't tolerate crime regardless who commits it.
we dont actually the motive. it seems odd to suggest a hate crime... against ones own group.
I don’t believe that tbh
Fuck em. I heard they got the absolute living shit beat out of em. Now I hope they rot in prison for the rest of their natural born life.
Unless there is a history of him claiming to be non-binary I find it highly suspicious.
As a queer person from COS, this is absolutely appalling and disgusting. It’s true that the perp might identify this way, but I highly doubt it. Seems either 1) too convenient and wants to drop the hate crimes charges and/or 2) is openly mocking us.
Absolutely just trying to get the hate charges dropped. The lawyer probably believe non-binary is a lot harder to disprove than if the kid claimed to be queer or trans.
More people need to recognize this instead of taking his defense attorneys statement at face value. Especially considering the fact that he used homophobic slurs when going into a rage with his mother.
Undoubtedly some lawyer's idea.
Spot on
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Since when? I’m gonna guess since just now
Since the arrest.
This is a calculated move on the part of the defense. I don’t believe it for a minute
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That's a "convenient" defense for the hate crime charge.
Perhaps wild speculation with little or no information is not a good way to report on or talk about events like this shooting.
Oh well I guess that makes everything ok then.
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This could be true about this person, and it could also be a ploy to try to get rid of the hate crime charges by the defense. Right now, I'm putting this in the category of how the Planned Parenthood shooter here in 2015 was allegedly a transgendered leftist as originally reported by the Gateway Pundit before the gender misclassification on that assholes DL was determined to be a clerical error. More information will come out over time. But the violent rhetoric of the right is absolutely killing people in marginalized communities across this nation.
Thinking this guy's public defender has already been appointed and met with the shooter and started a media blitz to try and sway public opinion is naive at best.
Maybe. I guess. Follow the logic though. You're the lawyer for this person... What does this play get you? Wouldn't it lead to judgment/decision toward multiple homicide rather than homicide motivated by hate crimes? Would that significantly impact conviction? Mass shooting perpetrators are still a paramount risk to society at large and still result in the heaviest of convictions. What does this achieve?
A hate crime can still be committed by someone that is part of that community. They can hate themselves and hate their group for being who they are.
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They can still get fucked. They’re a murderer. They’re responsible so causing a rift in the community which is coming back together stronger despite their actions. They. Can. Rot.
Does not change that this was a federal hate crime. Your self-loathing doesn't exempt you from being hateful.
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Hopefully “they” rot in prison forever.
“Your” tax dollars will keep him alive after he took the lives of innocents.
Anyone else besides me find this suspicious?
Absolutely.
I think it reeks of police lies.
Cool? Idc
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They’re just trying to turn this into the same thing they do as their “black on black crime” narrative.
Sure they/them do……sure they/them do.
And I hope they rot in hell
Who cares what they identify as? They clearly missed their true identity as a piece of shit
Sounds like a right wing strategy to point the blame at the lgbtq community and "their violence". Distract from any claims that it's part of right wing violence.
Whether it’s a right wing strategy or not. The right wing media is for sure gonna eat this up and point fingers. We won’t hear the end if it. This is just the break the they need to push an agenda.
Oh boy. I can’t wait for the right to read this headline and blame infighting in the community.
Like the Pulse Nightclub shooting?
Don't look at Twitter.
Sounds like someone is attempting to evade hate crime charges.
I seriously doubt that. They are likely looking into social media and employment, because you can't just change your pronouns because you got caught.
Cool motive. Still murder.
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Story about to vanish
Classic MAGA terrorist!
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You're telling me that the grandson of a MAGA-hat wearing GOP operative is suddenly non-binary?
Valid point bc it’s not like any grandchildren ever differ from their grandparents politically and ideologically. It NEVER happens…
Trump was the first successful presidential canidate from any party to win by running on a LGBTQ equal rights platform. Even Obama was against gay marriage.
Can’t wait to see how Lauren Boebert and Marge Green spin this one 🙄
Cool, they are still a piece of shit.
Convenient.
Their pronouns are also scum/bag who cares?
Bullshit.
As we all know self-hate has never existed in any community.
A MURDERER is a MURDERER, no matter what pronoun is used. This stunt is 100% an attempt to avoid Hate Crime status.
It's a bit disappointing people are claiming the suspect isn't non-binary.
Go ahead and laugh with the shooter. We want to know who's on that side.
A lotta people falling for propaganda here.
They’re trolling right?
I'm assuming this is some sad attempt to not have it labeled as a hate crime?
And just like that, no one ever talked or heard about this story again 💥
Alt-right wishful thinking.
Colorado needs to instate the death penalty for mass murders.
It wasn’t a MAGA Republican? Color me shocked /s
And just like that this story disappears
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I wonder if there’s any historically accurate context here or if THEY started identifying as nonbinary as soon as those cuffs were put on? 😒
Yeah right!
Who cares!?!? Stop letting everyone have guns, duh
What a liar the shooter is.
Bullshit
Just because they murdered a bunch of people doesn't mean we can misgender them.
holy fuck, gonna go laugh my self to sleep
What a strange thing people focus on or think they should feel bad about.
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How is this a hate crime and not a mass murder crime?
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Well THEY are an asshole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-YqqQcqCuA
Who gives a flying fuck
people always want to focus on the politics.
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Not so sure, i mean his granddad is a full fledged Maga election denying white man
Do you align with all of the ideologies and political opinions of your grandparents?
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They should get the chair. They won’t. The State of Colorado does not have a death penalty. So for the rest of their lives everyone in Colorado will pay to support this person.
Which is cheaper than us supporting the death penalty. The cost of mandatory appeals pushes the cost of a death penalty case way past anything resembling the cost of life in prison. Never mind the ethical cost.
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