what's your opinion of a teachers strike?

  1. While I don’t have kids, I know several teachers. For the amount of work they have to do and the crap they have to put up with they deserve every penny and then some.

  2. It’s also the sheer amount of work you feel guilt tripped into because it’s ‘for the kids’. I probably do at least a couple hours a week of unpaid work because my students need me. Eg going to a food bank, staying late to help with homework, meetings which I’m not paid for (I’m hourly).

  3. Yep, seems they have absolutely no-negotiable unpaid overtime requirements, have to follow all sorts of ridiculous rules, and are often paying out of pocket for materials. I would be tremendously supportive of a teachers strike as right now it seems to be an act of charity to choose that job.

  4. Yeah my housemate is a primary school teacher, she gets paid by the day and technically it's only supposed to be 8-3pm ish but she's there at half 7 until half 5 most days with all the prep and marking she has to do.

  5. My mum is a TA, the amount of work and effort she puts into looking after these kids. And yet to survive, even though she lives in a housing association house and gets reduced council tax rates, she's got a second job and is, on occasion, working 12 hour days

  6. If we paid them minimum wage by the hour to cover their evening and weekend overtime, they'd be earning more than they currently do. If that isn't grounds for striking I don't know what is. The government repeatedly take advantage of people who care about others and exploit that as a weakness because they're fucking lizards who never got hugged by their parents.

  7. Yup, my sisters an assistant head teacher and she works until 9pm most nights. They’re expected to do a lot of work

  8. Children and their education are arguably, the most important part of society. It is so obvious, they deserve literally the best that we as a nation can provide. Anything less is entirely unacceptable.

  9. I remember us milling through 5 maths teachers in two years. We were top set and were struggling to get C's we ended up with two ex military who could only push us up to B's in the time they were there. They did everything they could, buying pizza to get us to stay in school late to help out, even held a sleep over at the school a week before the exam.

  10. I did teaching for 4 years. It took over my whole life. So little support. A Yr 7 boy called me a cunt and was never picked up. Taught him he didn't need to show any respect to anyone at age 11. My friend had her arm broken by a student. The school weren't even going to report it to the police, she had to do all that herself. I loved the job - I love kids, I love teaching. But I need to be able to have evenings and weekends to spend with friends and family, and to do hobbies and exercise. It wasn't possible while teaching and my mental health was on the floor.

  11. Our school has resorted to hiring ex-students straight out of college to be TA's, because no one else will do the job for the shitty £11,000 they are offering.

  12. At a time when borrowing money to give rich people tax refunds is government policy, what do they expect teachers to do ? Cheer from the sidelines ?

  13. I'm a teacher and I've taken to actively disliking the NEU due to how toothless they are. I've said we should be striking for years.

  14. Absolutely, the home schooling I along with many had to adopt during lockdown has cemented that though if teachers strike I’m striking too! I very much value the education of my nursery- and primary-age children but f*ck that for a game of soldiers.

  15. I agree with every industry that wants to strike these days. Cost of living is hurting so many people, and personally as a uni student I’m definitely gonna have to cut back on what I spend over the next few months. I read up about a protest happening in Manchester on the 1st which made some good points, you might still be able to find it on

  16. They deserve a better wage package and more respect, so I support a teachers strike. It wouldn't be unreasonable to expect them to provide a decent period of notice though, so parents can make arrangements for childcare.

  17. Once a strike ballot has been successful the union must give a minimum of two weeks notice of said strike action.

  18. I honestly see it being either an extended October half term or an early break for Christmas if they do choose to go ahead with a strike

  19. That they haven't gone on strike before is testament to their commitment to the job. The pay they get is nothing like enough for the conditions they work in, the hours they work, and the importance of the job they do.

  20. We need to de-normalise working 70 hour weeks because you love the job you do. All jobs need boundaries that are safe.

  21. Married to teacher. They’re massively overworked and underpaid. They general public turn on them instantly because they think they barely do any work and are just babysitters. The government treats them with disdain (ordering all lateral flow tests in schools to be returned and destroyed rather than letting vulnerable teachers keep testing is next-level dystopian!). In lockdown, literally given no notice (government announcements late evening that need implementing the next morning with zero support).

  22. It's crazy. I had my first ofsted the other month and the panic was unreal. TAs working till 8pm, teachers having melt downs etc. I just remember thinking what industry has an equivalent of this?

  23. This, I have no experience with UK education since I'm from the Netherlands (I moved here in 2020), but my dad is a maths and physics teacher and I'm an English teacher and it's really rough. There were a lot of strikes in the Netherlands a few years ago but the general public has very little sympathy for teachers there too. At any time workload is brought up all you hear is "but all the holidays you have". I have a fairly standard office job here (because I'm pretty sure my degree doesn't mean much because in the NL you're teaching English as a second language and even if it did I currently don't want to go back to teaching anyway lol) and it's so much more relaxing. I just turn off my computer when it's time to go home and don't have to think about work until the next day. Compared to teaching which was almost ALWAYS on my mind, there's almost more to do, be it planning and preparing classes, marking tests and even things like self reflection in regards to issues you have with certain classes or students. Even during the holidays work was usually there in the back of my mind.

  24. I think that when teachers strike the focus for many becomes the childcare that is needed for that day. Teachers are not babysitters; I think a work-to-rule for at least a few weeks, preferably longer, would be good. Prioritise the teaching and pupil wellbeing (especially wellbeing concerns), the planning too unless the teacher enjoys winging it. All the other admin can get stuffed. After 35 hours they stop despite the piles of marking, forms to fill in, nonsense questionnaires, meetings that could have been an email, reports to write, paperwork to file, assessments to create and mark so there is a paper trail rather than to support the children, detailed plans including learning intentions, success criteria and the area of the curriculum this lesson will cover that the teacher knows but some schools insist needs to be written out for every lesson, and so on.

  25. Fully support it. We have 2 children in different schools so this will also mean I have to take unpaid parental leave at a time we are worried about making ends meet.

  26. Whilst I don't know any teachers, my missus works in the NHS so I know what a real terms pay cut for 10 years looks like, therefore any state employee who strikes has my full (albeit painful as I may have to take time off work) support.

  27. For a lot of us its not about the pay but it is about the overwork. I'm often working 7 to 7 and a half day on the weekends.

  28. My issue is the complete lack of support in a way I can't really articulate. Like, I could work in a supermarket and get paid the same. Where I am there isn't a lot of teacher jobs and although I've had pretty steady employment its exhausting jumping from 1 school to the other because budgets are all tight that schools will only offer fixed term work.

  29. This is what happened to a friend of mine. The whole time I knew her, she wanted nothing more than to be a teacher. Got into the trainee part and it burnt her out so bad she went "nope, not doing this". That wasn't even recently - it was ten or so years ago. I cannot imagine how teachers are faring now with the effects of Covid etc.

  30. Full solidarity. Teachers (especially more senior teachers with 10+ years of experience) have had no real-terms pay increase since 'austerity' kicked in more than a decade. That is why they are leaving the profession at an alarming rate.

  31. I have been a supply teacher for 11 years now. 0% pay rise for all this time. I started in 2011 on £140 and the same now. If I was paid to scale I would be on £190. All this whilst going to different schools every day, sometimes no work set, no details of where rooms are, no behaviour policy and treated like dirt by other staff, who are under the mistaken impression that I get paid more than them. Many of us were unpaid during Covid and found doing supermarket or delivery jobs paid more so we got out of teaching. You generally don’t get things thrown at you or sworn at when working at the supermarket. I would not go back to permanent teaching again. It’s not the same as it was 20 years ago when I started.

  32. The whole country needs to walk out and stay out until this corrupt fraudulent government is brought down. If the whole country works together and stays out this government will fall in a matter of days.

  33. My wife is a teacher. It's not just about the wages. She's spending her own money every month on glue sticks, gym shoes, pencils, pants for kids who have accidents etc. She could submit receipts to the school but they're already up the shitter so what's the point? No school would choose to have no stationery. At times they are banned from the photocopier because of the cost. Parents can't help because they don't have any money either. This month they're lucky because local shops have agreed to donate food for the Harvest Table which local families can take, but otherwise the community is screwed. The nearest food bank is two bus journeys away. For families who can't even top up the electricity meter, it's a fiver they just don't have.

  34. Aye, we ran out of paper during SATs last year which is a nightmare as we couldn't print practice papers for the 2 year 6 classes. The school is in £700k worth of debt. How does society let that happen?

  35. Teachers work hard, get paid too little, and have huge responsibility. Striking is an important exercise in fighting for better conditions. Good for them.

  36. 100% agree. And all the people that say it is a 9-3 job with loads of holidays - why don't you do it then if it is so easy? Why are people leaving the profession?

  37. The unions need to put more pressure on employers. When even right-wing outlets such as the Spectator are bemoaning weak unions you know that things are bad.

  38. With the amount of work that teachers do outside the normal school day, at weekends, and through school holidays, I'd expect some to be below minimum wage.

  39. If you think Teachers have it bad, get ready for support staff strikes in the near future. A fraction of the wages, a fraction of the respect and even worse working standards and practices.

  40. Kids are losing out already. The government have asked schools to fund a 5% pay rise for their staff but have refused to fund it. So schools are now left with the choice of paying their staff or spending that money on the students.

  41. Complete solidarity. They deserve so much more than how they are treated, and if this helps them get it then more power to them.

  42. Same, my girlfriend is a teacher and so was my mum, if anyone thinks that they work less than 50 hours a week then they're kidding themselves.

  43. Full support for them. I used to work in education and the government has been awful toward children, staff and schools for years. Education is vitally important. It only works if we have the best doing it, and doing it well. That only works with full support and fair working conditions.

  44. They have too many kids to properly do their jobs and they’re not even paid enough. The system is fucked and needs to change, not just for the teachers but for the kids they are responsible for.

  45. My other half is a secondary school teacher. They are treated like absolute garbage and have to work ludicrous hours. My partner’s contract stipulates 37.5 hours per week, when in reality she probably does closer to 55-60 when you factor in marking, lesson planning, meetings, after school activities, etc. If their salaries were calculated on an hourly basis, most would probably barely scrape minimum wage. I fully support them in any strike action.

  46. Cannot stress enough the amount of work teachers put in! Seriously they, as well as the workers that put together the school experience deserve so much more! The amount of money teachers spend of their own income on resources for the children, the overtime they put in consistently and more is just jaw dropping to say the least Fantastic to see so much support for teachers in the comments and hopefully there will be positive results if any strikes occur

  47. Bloody love a good strike me, and, frankly, from chats with friends who are teachers, it sounds like they get a super raw deal at present.

  48. I'd always back them for sure. I'd imagine even those who don't agree would mainly be for their own reasons such as needing to find childcare rather than them disagreeing with their demands.

  49. It's well overdue, but I understand why. The NEU has tried to avoid strike action given how much it can effect students and parents but enough is enough.

  50. Seems like everyone seems to be on the side of anyone who is currently striking. The entire country feels like us v them(Government) and I am here for it.

  51. Fully support it after seeing the time, effort and energy that my husband puts into his job for a shit salary and long hours.

  52. Everyone has a right to strike and yeah its gonna make life difficult for people, that's the point. Once teachers strike and people see just the face value service that these people offer that should show how undervalued they currently are. That's without even considering all of the work these people do outside of the 9 to 5 looking after kids.

  53. Completely for it! My evenings, weekends and holidays are spent watching or helping my girlfriend cut out and laminate a tonne of supplies that she pays for with her own money. She leaves here at 7:30am and gets back at 6:30pm then spends the evening in front of the TV creating the supplies for the little shits. Has too many kids in her class, parents have all but given up on even teaching their kids basic things like not to shit themselves or that they have to be polite or even read to them or with them.

  54. Yeah. Austerity has really fucked things up. I went from working in a leafy suburb to a rough inner city school and the difference was shocking. Obviously, there is a cultural thing there but families not having access to parenting groups or socal support has really had a knock on to children now in schools.

  55. One of the most under rated and under appreciated jobs out there by the people who can actually do something to change it. They work overtime everyday pretty much and don't get paid for it. The public response? "well they knew what they we're getting into" no fucking pay them more. Look how education is done abroad and you'll see its a fucking joke in this country. We're not at the level it is in the red states in america but we're heading there with this incompetent government. The whole system needs a reform because it's being held together by taking advantage of some teachers willingness and desire to help the kids and any industry that relies on that is a big sham.

  56. Both parents are/were teachers. Mum says she refuses to strike as it's not fair on the kids missing out on their education. Personally I don't think a couple days would be that bad but she says the syllabus is so intensive now they struggle to teach everything already without having to catch-up on lost days. The amount of work she puts into that job though, she deserves better.

  57. It's also bad for the kids for teachers to keep dropping out of the profession at the rate they do. Some subjects already have a chronic shortage of specialists. Demographics being what they are (aging population) we may well run out of bright eyed young things willing to enter the profession.

  58. Remember who was ‘essential’ and who wasn’t when shit hit the fan. We should all stand together when we live together in one of the richest states in the world yet 99% of us are getting screwed over every day. There should be general strikes across the board.

  59. I've been teaching about eight years. Of my training cohort I think only myself and one other are still in the profession.

  60. Reddit, (let alone AskUk) is not a general consensus. Its quite a small demographic. You're going to get a very skewed opinion.

  61. Fully behind them if they do. Public sector workers have been undervalued for too long. I had hoped the global pandemic would refocus our priorities but it's gone back to business as usual.

  62. As a public sector worker in a non-frontline role I would love to see some more joined up thinking by public sector unions. And by that I do mean full public sector strikes. It's a bit tricky because we aren't all on the same pay deal, but we are all being fucked over by the same Treasury...

  63. Not a teacher. But the rates of pay are a joke. I find it incredible that the value the country places on arguably the single most important and impacting profession for our children, is so low.

  64. I’d like to see teaching unions stamp down on the unpaid extra work. Working to rule at 37/40 hours per week doesn’t just set out how much extra work they do, it also hopefully pushes a culture change. Teachers good will, like healthcare workers goodwill has been relied on for too long.

  65. I have a kid and this could mean I'd lose out on wages due to needing to look after my kid, so I obviously I fully 100% support a strike, teachers are criminally underpaid for the amount of work they put in.

  66. I support any workers that go on strike 🪧 it’s time to stand up for ourselves and have more autonomy over our own industries. ✊🏻

  67. It'd be a massive pain in the arse for us as we have two kids at school. But my starting point would be to support them. They have a huge amount of goodwill "in the bank"; I can see how hard they work, I know how important the work is, and I want them to be properly rewarded for it.

  68. I fully support most industrial action of this nature. I think it's a shame that it's come to this and that the disruption caused will be felt worst by regular folk who have no control over the conditions that make the strike nescessary. I will get extremely annoyed at the sections of the British press and politicians who will try to paint striking workers as the "bad guys" because they are in the pocket of those who are the root cause of the problems to begin with. And I will continue to have the constant feeling that something has got to give, but have no idea exactly what or how or what form it will take.

  69. Completely support them. My wife’s on maternity (she’s a teacher) so pretty easy for me to say that since she won’t have to decide if she’s striking anyway…

  70. i have severeal members of my family who are either teachers or TA's and yeah i agree with you when you say its overdue. A very thankless job (obviously outside of the satisfaction they derive from it)

  71. Teachers have crap working conditions. They are horrendously underpaid. They are an important slice of our society given they are moulding our future generations. We need to make it a rewarding career in terms of work environment and financial compensation. Most qualified teachers I know left the building within a few years.

  72. Parents might be a bit inconvenienced but that's one of the reasons why strikes can be effective. Although I'm sure some will grumble.

  73. While it would be a huge inconvenience to me, I'd fully support them. They are underpaid and undersupported.

  74. Just wanted to add in case no one has, one of the main concerns teachers have is the shiny 5% the government waved at us to make us feel better was not going to be funded by the government. It was going to come out of already stretched school budgets. One of the unions demands is that any pay rise be fully funded by government by increasing school budgets. When your school can't afford to keep the heating on, or fix gaping holes in the roof, how are they going to afford to pay all their staff more?

  75. I work at a uni and turned down a lecturing job over the pay. It's way too low, especially in times like this.

  76. 100% on board, teachers pay is shit. And whilst I get that not all teachers truly give a shit about their work I've been taught by enough great teachers in the past to know that some folk really just want to help kids achieve their goals.

  77. I support it. Teachers like many other occupations that have been striking have received pay cuts every year due to inflation but have been increasingly given more responsibilities and have even more admin bloat then they used to.

  78. Good for them. My husband taught for a while, he was expected to work unreasonable hours for less pay than his current 9-5.30 job. People don't understand the amount of work that they have to put in.

  79. Given how many different jobs are striking, couldn't they just all have a coordinated strike over a few days?

  80. It would be unpleasant for all . . But effective as it would impact on most of us in someway. The train services still seem to limp on . . Postal services people will find alternatives. .Education is essential. .

  81. Like all helping professionals none of us do it for the money. We do it because we want to make a difference, we believe in our chosen profession and actually enjoy it. However, 12 years of austerity have bitten hard. Services are functioning on a shoestring and the smallest pressure will break us. So we strike, knowing the impact on us, the children and families we work with and for. You can't gut public services and make noise about efficiency whilst rewarding your cronies and bankers. Even though we know we will have to play catch up post strike we will still exercise the only voice we have left. Solidarity please!

  82. "Won't somebody think of the parents" Which is exactly what the press will push rather than highlighting rubbish working conditions and pay. They do and pay for degrees yet are expected to earn peanuts for it. I support them fully and if some parents need to take time off work then you know who to complain to and here's a hint it's not the teachers.

  83. I think people should strike nationally in all sectors. Like literally no one should go to work for a week or so until a little bit of societal equilibrium is restored

  84. I used to be a TA in Early Years. The teacher and I would be looking after 28 or so 3-4 year olds, some of whom were not nappy trained, so a lot of time was spent trying to cover each other when a child had an accident, when a child fell over, when children fell out etc., all while trying to provide them with learning and fun experiences. I was also expected to be a 1:1 TA to an autistic student along with looking after the rest of the class.

  85. If you're a professional and you're going to a food bank, then you need to be paid more. Simple as that. the amount of good work teachers do for the money is shocking and not morally right.

  86. Just left teaching after 20 years as secondary Head of Dept. Got a relaxing part time job in a garden centre and just worked out I earn more per hour here with less stress, although sadly I've noticed I talk to the plants. I fear a strike although needed will earn a few extra percent maybe, but will be followed up by years of no pay rises and I think they've got their eyes on the pension, much like private education. Something fundamental needs to change although I have no idea what.

  87. Given the mismanagement of the economy and how people are being shit on, here is a list of everyone that I think should be able to strike for better pay and conditions -

  88. My partner is a reception teacher & head of early years. She leaves at 7am, gets home at around 6.30pm, does 2 hrs work a night and at least 6 hours at the weekend. Her pay slip states she earns £7.67 per hour.

  89. I was in a relationship with a teacher that between us both as people/personalities, interests etc. were perfect. I wanted it to work and wanted that person to be my forever person.

  90. I’ve been a teacher for nine years and have always worked my arse off and got top results for my kids. I have never earned more than 39k even taking into account promotions and managerial roles. There is a culture of overworking to compliantly jump through any arbitrary hoops laid out by crap ex-teachers (OFSTED) or government know-it-alls. All my friends get paid more than I do and work half as hard, and I am constantly thinking about quitting for the benefit of my mental health. Reading these comments has actually given me a bit of faith in the people out there… At least someone seems to give a toss! Maybe a strike might encourage the government to at least give us a competitive wage at long last!

  91. I definitely think we have to get the best of the best teaching kids at school at all levels, and also smaller classes all the way up until they leave secondary, but then the system of how we teach maybe needs a good overhaul as well.

  92. I think the education system is a joke so much that kids missing school during the strike isn't going to hurt their education, if you can call it that. If anything, it's good, because it wastes less of their time.

  93. It'll be terrible for the kids and cause me personally a ton of grief with work, do it anyway, full support.

  94. Teachers are proper done ditty , to their pay and the delinquent students ( I mean seriously kids these days are a different breed )

  95. I’m a teacher and I’d love to give it up. But at this point I feel institutionalised and don’t know what else I can do. Have any other teachers changed careers?

  96. I left after 18 years, 13 of those as a middle leader. I'm lucky enough to have been in the position that I could take a big pay cut, but I'm starting a new career with the NHS (frying pans and fires, I know, but I start at 8:30 and finish at 4:30, get 27 days holiday + bank holidays a year, was able to pretty easily transfer my pension, and I don't even have to THINK about work - as in, I'm not ALLOWED to have work email on my personal laptop or phone due to patient confidentiality... However, I'm not clinical, so I don't have the epic stress problems faced by nurses, HCAs, etc.).

  97. My gf recently got employed as a teacher. She's essentially on a zero hour contract for the next three years in the hope of getting an actual salaried position.

  98. The career isn't what people think it is. Most of my friends who are teachers left after 5/6 years of bouncing around short term contracts. I'm now a teacher on my 4th job in 5 years. I met a lad last term on his 8th job in 10 years and I just thought "is that me in the future?". In my mid 40s and still having to face the prospect of being unemployed each September.

  99. My mother is a teacher. She's currently got a class of 30 7 year olds, in a very deprived area. She's overworked, underpaid and undervalued by management, the local authority, the government and the community she's trying to serve. I 100% support every teachers' strike.

  100. Whilst I hate seeing my kids' education being disrupted, I'm in full support of the strike. Public sector workers are always getting shafted! Solidarity, brothers & sisters!

  101. Girlfriend left teaching this year after 4 years. It's a brutal and under appreciated role. All support for the striking teachers!

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