She also tried to use the Nazi’s aryan laws ,taking Jewish people’s property rights, to strip her two Jewish business partners of their share of her business.
Learned about this in one of my art history classes. The prof asked if we could have lunch with any famous artist who would it be? Many said Picasso and DaVinci (mainly DaVinci). At the end he pulled up and talked about how they were actually assholes, and were not at all known for their generosity or kindness. I mean Picasso had (possibly multiple) untreated mental illnesses. A lot of artists from history and even today use art as an outlet for their internal expressions, so it’s no wonder they were assholes or depressed or anywhere in between.
Apparently he convinced his gf to pretend to love his friend and then reject him, causing his friend to commit suicide. This is what started his "blue period," so I guess he maybe had emotions slightly
Let’s not forget that he had a secret cancer surgery that one reporter E.J. Edwards found out about and tried to expose the truth. Grover denied it and ruined the reporter’s career. It’s a fascinating story I read about in The President Is A Sick Man: Wherein the Supposedly Virtuous Grover Cleveland Survives a Surgery at Sea and Vilifies the Courageous Newspaperman Who Dared Expose the Truth by Matthew Algeo
What he did to Mariah Halpin is disgusting. She died in obscurity, labelled as an adulterous woman and shunned by society while he got to enjoy public adoration which he manipulated at her and her child’s expense. He barely support the kid - to make sure he’s not visible in the public eye. Hope he rots in hell.
I recently saw an interview with one of his grandsons. His father was born in the late 1890s, and met his mother in 1943 when she was a teacher of the kids from the father's first marriage.
He is not looked upon so fondly by the English either. I remember being taught about him and the English Civil War in school which pretty much summarised him as "This man is significant...he is also a significant cunt."
Committed tax fraud, multiple health code violations, the factory was on the verge of foreclosure, disguised putting the assets in someone else's name as a gifting of the factory.
Not kinda, PT Barnum was a huge POS. The History of Circus episodes of the show The American Experience talks all about what a horrible person PT Barnum was. It’s really quite disgusting.
To be fair the musical was about how he became a piece of shit and lost almost everything and it took losing his life's work and family simultaneously for him to start to have a change of heart.
He was a huge POS, and the fact that someone thought they should write a musical passing him off as some sort of humanist is frankly appalling. If he couldn’t make a buck off you, he didn’t care whether you lived or died.
Charles Dickens also ran a very public overtly racist smear campaign against John Rae who came back from the Canadian arctic with news from Inuit sources that the lost Franklin expedition had ultimately succumbed to disease and cannibalism.
I read Gloria Swanson's autobiography and she talked about her relationship with him. She first approached him about helping her manage her money and maybe investing it. He put on the full-court press to woo her (he was very married at the time) showering her with gifts, even buying her a new car. She soon found out that all of the money he had been spending on her was her own. She had given him access to it to invest for her.
Ferdinand Marcos, a dictator who killed a lot of people and brainwash them. It is also one of the reason why his son is sitting right now as a president of the Philippines despite not finishing a college degree.
I can only hope that if/when he does some stupid shit, he gets stopped before the nation feels the consequences. This will at least bring back to light the Marcos family's past and maybe Filipinos will start thinking logically again.
I'm convincing myself that we're in a very glitchy simulation because how tf did that pos become president. But then, people want dictatorship back because apparently, we are only disciplined with it. I believe that from the moment FEM Sr. became president, the propaganda is already in deep.
I love when rivals do stuff like this, like when UFC fighters go through a fkn war in the octagon and hug and praise each other afterwards regardless of outcome
And Salieri wasn’t really jealous of Mozart. Salieri was the superstar of his day. He has no reason to be jealous of some upstart who could barely afford a pool table. Even the movie shows him reading Mozart’s sheet music and picturing the orchestra in his mind. That takes skill
Cesar Milan. He met his wife while she was underage. He left her and she came back when she turned 18. Romantic right? Well, he left her after she had his baby and got sick.
And his murder mutt attacked and crippled a 14 Y/O gymnast (a very talented and Olympics bound athlete), ended her career and he settled for an undisclosed amount in a lawsuit.
His tactics are also widely considered inhumane by professional dog breeders. Surprise surprise, scaring a dog does not decrease aggressive behavior, because most aggressive behavior is done out of fear
Vet tech here… his training techniques are actually called flooding techniques and they never work and have a tendency to cause the opposite affect. He’s a terrible “trainer” and really should be shut down.
When I got my first dog about a decade ago, I bought his book, “How to Raise the Perfect Puppy” because I knew of him as an authority. It was, and still is, the most worthless book I’ve ever read. Nothing but bragging and anecdotes about his dogs.
Yeah. I couldn’t finish “Neuro Tribes,” a book widely praised by many in autistic communities because of the misinformation it starts off with about Asperger. I guess he noticed autism, but he was a member of the Nazi party, and his work on a committee classifying children according to their “usefulness” helped justify the euthanizing (murder) of 35 in them. His cooperation with the Nazi party helped advance his career after the war. He wasn’t some hero saving little autistic kids.
I've personally never heard him praised. I've seen him lumped in the same category as Freud. "Crazy people who's opinions are no longer relative but they did discover something."
Alfred Kinsey. He is praised by people because he is considered Father of Sexual Education, but is a completely disgusting human being. He would show pornography to young children, and sexually stimulate infants. His aides abused almost 2,000 children, male and female, by oral and anal sodomy, genital intercourse and manual stimulation. This happened to children as young as 5 months old, and there was even a recorded instance of a 4-year-old brought to orgasm 26 times within a 24 hour period.
I've found sources that seem to support the general idea of your second and third paragraphs (that his respondents weren't representative of the general public, and he was opposed to pathologising/criminalising sexual behaviour including paedophilia), but I can't find anything to support your first paragraph.
If there is one thing that reading this comment chain has instilled in me. It’s that we are indeed getting better, because apparently everyone who lived more than 50 ago was an ass.
In 50 years people will say the same about all of the rich/ influential people today. Some things just take time to come to light/ be taken seriously. And 50 years ago, WWII had just ended, so a lot of people who lived then and were influential were under the covers with, well, Nazis.
John Kellogg (founder of Kelligg’s cereals) was a vocal eugenicist, and he was particularly concerned with race degeneracy. He believed that race was threatened both by racial mixing and mental defectives.
There was a similar thread recently about Dr Seuss in which he got flak, but then there was a reference to some more highly researched background which disproved most of what people were saying. I wish I could track that down to post here.
Andrew Jackson, he's celebrated as a Statesman and the seventh President of the US with the nick name Old Hickory, he's on the $20 Bill. In reality, he was a violent, cruel man, a slave master and racist who signed the Indian Removal Act and is responsible for the Trail of Tears. He also killed Charles Dickens...
Woodrow Wilson. The man actually won the Nobel Peace Prize but was a notorious racist and set the standard of American Interventionism for the rest of the century.
I heard a story once that Ho Chi Minh once hoped to meet Wilson in Paris, hoping that he would be able to get the president to champion his cause for decolonizing Vietnam. When he met Woodrow Wilson's staff, they turned him away, informing him that Wilson was a racist and would not care for anything he had to say. Soon after, Ho Chi Minh picked up the Communist Manifesto.
Yeah, supposedly he told her she could stay in France and could be free or go back with him and remain a slave. She chose to go backs. Here’s the thing: She didn’t speak any French and didn’t know anyone. Plus she was pregnant with his child
I’m no expert on him, but I’ve heard both. One of his kids swears this isn’t true as well, just that he was complicated and sometimes emotionally reserved.
I'm not american and i don't really know that much about him. So I wanted to ask why is he particularly hated that much around here. He always seems to be in the top for this type of posts. What makes him so much worse than other american politicians?
I’m not sure anyone still thinks of him as a good person but Henry Kissinger is a terrible excuse for a human being and millions of people are dead because of him.
Pavlov. The man was a psychopath. He is cited in hundreds of thousands of academic papers and books, but the truth he was a monster. Not only that, but his "experiments" have little if any scientific value as he mutilated the dogs To such an extent that they cannot be used as analogs for normal, healthy animals.
Crazy bc today I was behind a van for "Pavlov Media" and their company logo is a dog, and the first thing I said to my mom is "that's pretty fucked up considering what Pavlov did to dogs"
Because of the musical, many people tend to ignore some of the terrible aspects of Alexander Hamilton. I'm not going to list them all, but my personal favorite is his support for the Alien and Sedition acts. Hamilton had a few gripes with them, with one of the largest being that they were not enforced strictly enough.
It's funny because Aaron Burr is made out to be some kind of villain for having killed him in a duel. This is despite having put up with Hamilton's constant rumor mongering against him. The straw that broke the camel's back being that he had an incestuous relationship with his daughter. A daughter I might add was one of the best educated women in the nation due to Burr being quite the feminist.
Woodrow mother-fucking Wilson. The father of interventionism that manifested in horrendous conflicts such as Vietnam and Iraq, his idealism over realism approach to foreign policy at a key crossroads contributed heavily to present political instability and crime issues in Mexico, his delaying US entry into WW1 likely extended the conflict by years, which made both the creation of Nazi Germany AND especially the Soviet Union far more likely. And above all else the man was racist FOR HIS TIME, and that's saying something. He screened KKK propaganda films to his cabinet in the White House, and resegregated hiring practices in the federal government, he was also a prominent Lost Cause revisionist historian in regards to the American Civil War.
Don’t forget he was bed ridden for a time while president and did not give up power to the Vice President. During this time it’s believed his wife read and signed items in his place.
i too dislike Wilson vehemently. but i'm a little confused. if you're against his interventionism, shouldn't you be arguing that the US should not have entered WW1 at all?
You blame him as being the father of military interventionism but also blame him for not intervening enough in WWI in the same sentence. Furthermore, suggesting that Wilson’s delay of getting directly involved in the war as a primary factor for the Bolshevik revolution or the rise of Nazi Germany is a seriously thin argument bordering on alternate history sci-fi.
Don't even get me started of his work in South Africa. He's always touted for advocating for the rights of Indian South Africans when in reality he wanted them to be considered "Aryans" and granted the same privileges as white people. He was very racist against black people, and on many occasions used the k-word (a South African slur that's like the n-word but far worse as it wasn't reclaimed).
Ted Kennedy. Not only was he a womanizing dirt bag like all the Kennedy boys, but he drove a car off a bridge drunk and left a woman to drown to death and then had his shitbag daddy Joe Sr. do damage control.
Octavian/Augustus is a really vindictive and unpleasant dude considering how revered he is. I'd say he isn't evil by the standards of his time, on the other hand pretty much all Roman emperors are evil by our standards.
God after study the first Carthage war I've learned just how blood thirsty Romans were. Literally lost so many soldiers, ships, equipment from nature a lone and yet build massive navies and armies in weeks!.. WEEKS!
Gandhi. He denied his wife medication so she died but he got the medication.... And to prove his celibacy he slept nude next to a young niece until he got it right
Joseph Smith. Created Mormonism using nothing but lies, committed statutory rape, sent men in his congregation away on missions so he could sleep with/marry their wives, ordered the burning of a printing press for exposing him, possibly ordered the assassination of the Missouri governor (theory, no solid indicators).
Jimmy savile. Complete and utterly disgusting. Everyone thought so highly of him in regards to charity work, yet some how our corrupted government and justice system failed so many children regarding accusations made whilst he was alive.
There was definitely a time when he was praised as a good person but I think it's fair to say that's well and truly in the past and has been for a while now.
AskReddit is nothing but 5-10 of the same questions reworded and reposted every other week. They always blow up and get tons of the exact same comments and links.
The man was a hypocrite, he most certainly didn’t practice what he preached seeing as how he was abusive to his first wife and cheated on and left her for Yoko, he abandoned his first born child and has publicly admitted that he only loves his son from Yoko and not the son from his first wife, and on top of it all, he had a very violent temper.
Steve Jobs, he refused to claim or support his daughter and then used his money to get a life saving organ transplant even though he had severe other health issues and died a few years later, he basically killed someone indirectly using his wealth and no one wants to talk about it since he created a fucking iPod that makes phone calls.
Believe it or not, Adolf Hitler was once praised as a good person. That was before people became aware of his persecution of the Jews, and information regarding the Holocaust was brought to light
I read once how Brian Jones was so abusive to a woman that Keith Richards had to step in. If you have a controversial figure like Keith Richards being the reasonable one, you clearly have a problem.
When European colonial powers of the 1500's arrest you for crimes against humanity because you're abusing the natives too much, you've gone way, way, way too far. The man was a monster who's excesses disgusted even his own peers in his own time.
Coco Chanel was a nazi sympathizer and informer.
She also tried to use the Nazi’s aryan laws ,taking Jewish people’s property rights, to strip her two Jewish business partners of their share of her business.
A lot of big names in fashion and beauty were nazis or nazi supporters. Hugo Boss, Louis Vuitton, and Eugene Schueler (L’Oreal).
"Pablo Picasso" He was a complete jerk, and his kids were terrified of him.
He would beat his girlfriends and draw them while they cried.
He once took a girl into a bookstore to buy her a book about himself to seduce her because she didn’t know who he was. I do mean girl.
Learned about this in one of my art history classes. The prof asked if we could have lunch with any famous artist who would it be? Many said Picasso and DaVinci (mainly DaVinci). At the end he pulled up and talked about how they were actually assholes, and were not at all known for their generosity or kindness. I mean Picasso had (possibly multiple) untreated mental illnesses. A lot of artists from history and even today use art as an outlet for their internal expressions, so it’s no wonder they were assholes or depressed or anywhere in between.
Apparently he convinced his gf to pretend to love his friend and then reject him, causing his friend to commit suicide. This is what started his "blue period," so I guess he maybe had emotions slightly
Nobody who knows anything about Picassos life thinks he was a nice man
Heard he was a terror to the women in his life.
I heard he would walk down the street and girls couldn't resist his stare. and also was never once called an asshole
Edison was a douche
The original patent troll.
Grover Cleveland groomed his best friends daughter from her infancy until he married her when she was 21 and he was 49.
Let’s not forget that he had a secret cancer surgery that one reporter E.J. Edwards found out about and tried to expose the truth. Grover denied it and ruined the reporter’s career. It’s a fascinating story I read about in The President Is A Sick Man: Wherein the Supposedly Virtuous Grover Cleveland Survives a Surgery at Sea and Vilifies the Courageous Newspaperman Who Dared Expose the Truth by Matthew Algeo
What he did to Mariah Halpin is disgusting. She died in obscurity, labelled as an adulterous woman and shunned by society while he got to enjoy public adoration which he manipulated at her and her child’s expense. He barely support the kid - to make sure he’s not visible in the public eye. Hope he rots in hell.
U.S. Congressman John Rose's inspiration.
I don't think I've ever really heard anyone say anything good about him.
I recently saw an interview with one of his grandsons. His father was born in the late 1890s, and met his mother in 1943 when she was a teacher of the kids from the father's first marriage.
Not Grover Cleveland!
I dunno if I've ever heard him praised but Oliver Cromwell put everyone in my town into a church and lit it on fire. Drogheda, Ireland
If it makes you feel any better, he was born in the same town as me and we all think he’s a total cunt here.
He is not looked upon so fondly by the English either. I remember being taught about him and the English Civil War in school which pretty much summarised him as "This man is significant...he is also a significant cunt."
Who praises Cromwell as a good person?
Cromwell was an absolute cunt.
Willy Wonka. Made delicious candy, experimented on children.
And enslaved the oompa loompas
Committed tax fraud, multiple health code violations, the factory was on the verge of foreclosure, disguised putting the assets in someone else's name as a gifting of the factory.
PT Barnum kinda? I mean they made a whole ass musical based on this piece of shit.
Not kinda, PT Barnum was a huge POS. The History of Circus episodes of the show The American Experience talks all about what a horrible person PT Barnum was. It’s really quite disgusting.
To be fair the musical was about how he became a piece of shit and lost almost everything and it took losing his life's work and family simultaneously for him to start to have a change of heart.
I love the idea that the greatest showman is a movie made if PT Barnum made a biopic of himself.
His animal crackers are fire tho
He was a huge POS, and the fact that someone thought they should write a musical passing him off as some sort of humanist is frankly appalling. If he couldn’t make a buck off you, he didn’t care whether you lived or died.
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This makes me feel less bad for him about the time Hans Christian Andersen was going to visit him for a few nights and ended up staying for months.
Didn't he also stop her from seeing their children.
And tried to have her committed
... is he praised as a good person? Like I've never heard anyone refer to him as a good or bad person, just a famous author.
Charles Dickens also ran a very public overtly racist smear campaign against John Rae who came back from the Canadian arctic with news from Inuit sources that the lost Franklin expedition had ultimately succumbed to disease and cannibalism.
Little Dorrit was based on his life. It was pretty sugar-coated. "Flora" was his old girlfriend, and didn't have 10 kids with him.
Joe Kennedy Sr. Too many reasons to count.
I read Gloria Swanson's autobiography and she talked about her relationship with him. She first approached him about helping her manage her money and maybe investing it. He put on the full-court press to woo her (he was very married at the time) showering her with gifts, even buying her a new car. She soon found out that all of the money he had been spending on her was her own. She had given him access to it to invest for her.
A very interesting rabbit hole is his the wikipedia page for his daughter he had lobotomized.
Joseph Kennedy is definitely not praised, or at least hasn’t been since the Rosemary affair got found out
Wait, hes seen as good?
Ferdinand Marcos, a dictator who killed a lot of people and brainwash them. It is also one of the reason why his son is sitting right now as a president of the Philippines despite not finishing a college degree.
It hurts to see my entire family glorify him like some type of god.
2 words. Bong Bong.
I can only hope that if/when he does some stupid shit, he gets stopped before the nation feels the consequences. This will at least bring back to light the Marcos family's past and maybe Filipinos will start thinking logically again.
I'm convincing myself that we're in a very glitchy simulation because how tf did that pos become president. But then, people want dictatorship back because apparently, we are only disciplined with it. I believe that from the moment FEM Sr. became president, the propaganda is already in deep.
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I love when rivals do stuff like this, like when UFC fighters go through a fkn war in the octagon and hug and praise each other afterwards regardless of outcome
And yet Amadeus totally nails Mozart.
I don't think you understood the question
And Salieri wasn’t really jealous of Mozart. Salieri was the superstar of his day. He has no reason to be jealous of some upstart who could barely afford a pool table. Even the movie shows him reading Mozart’s sheet music and picturing the orchestra in his mind. That takes skill
Thomas Edison. He killed Topsy
They say 'aw topsy' at my autopsie
He fucked over Nikola Tesla
He also stole ideas and work and was generally a dick
Cesar Milan. He met his wife while she was underage. He left her and she came back when she turned 18. Romantic right? Well, he left her after she had his baby and got sick.
And his murder mutt attacked and crippled a 14 Y/O gymnast (a very talented and Olympics bound athlete), ended her career and he settled for an undisclosed amount in a lawsuit.
His tactics are also widely considered inhumane by professional dog breeders. Surprise surprise, scaring a dog does not decrease aggressive behavior, because most aggressive behavior is done out of fear
Vet tech here… his training techniques are actually called flooding techniques and they never work and have a tendency to cause the opposite affect. He’s a terrible “trainer” and really should be shut down.
Okay this one actually shocked me.
When I got my first dog about a decade ago, I bought his book, “How to Raise the Perfect Puppy” because I knew of him as an authority. It was, and still is, the most worthless book I’ve ever read. Nothing but bragging and anecdotes about his dogs.
Maybe that’s why he was able to defeat Cartman.
He got that TV show because of his looks and personality. He was just a dog groomer with an ego.
Everybody knows 'Thomas Edison'
Hans Asperger
Yeah. I couldn’t finish “Neuro Tribes,” a book widely praised by many in autistic communities because of the misinformation it starts off with about Asperger. I guess he noticed autism, but he was a member of the Nazi party, and his work on a committee classifying children according to their “usefulness” helped justify the euthanizing (murder) of 35 in them. His cooperation with the Nazi party helped advance his career after the war. He wasn’t some hero saving little autistic kids.
I've personally never heard him praised. I've seen him lumped in the same category as Freud. "Crazy people who's opinions are no longer relative but they did discover something."
Alfred Kinsey. He is praised by people because he is considered Father of Sexual Education, but is a completely disgusting human being. He would show pornography to young children, and sexually stimulate infants. His aides abused almost 2,000 children, male and female, by oral and anal sodomy, genital intercourse and manual stimulation. This happened to children as young as 5 months old, and there was even a recorded instance of a 4-year-old brought to orgasm 26 times within a 24 hour period.
Welp. Thanks for ruining my day at 6:23 am.
That is horrible .
This is more information than I ever wanted to know
I've found sources that seem to support the general idea of your second and third paragraphs (that his respondents weren't representative of the general public, and he was opposed to pathologising/criminalising sexual behaviour including paedophilia), but I can't find anything to support your first paragraph.
Cue Reddit going off on Mother Theresa
Came here looking for this one.
Just need somebody to claim that she secretly ran Nestlé so they can kill two birds with one stone
And Ghandi.
I'm surprised it's not number 1, but I guess someone made a video essay about Woodrow Wilson recently that I havent seen.
Hitler. People praise him for being "the guy that killed Hitler" but he did an awful lot of bad stuff before that.
I don’t want to speak too strongly here but the more I learn about this Hitler fella, the more I think he’s a real jerk!
People praise him for being "the guy that killed Hitler" but tend to forget that he's also the guy that killed the guy that killed Hitler.
I mean, his dog loved him.
PT Barnum
If there is one thing that reading this comment chain has instilled in me. It’s that we are indeed getting better, because apparently everyone who lived more than 50 ago was an ass.
In 50 years people will say the same about all of the rich/ influential people today. Some things just take time to come to light/ be taken seriously. And 50 years ago, WWII had just ended, so a lot of people who lived then and were influential were under the covers with, well, Nazis.
Ellen Degeneres
I hate that she had me fooled for decades. 😒
I never liked that bitch. There was always something off with her sinister smile.
The fact that Dakota Johnson started her downfall and seems proud of it when they mention it to her. I love that woman. Lol!!
I've heard this one but never really saw anything heinous other than she's a mean boss. What has she done that's bad?
John Kellogg (founder of Kelligg’s cereals) was a vocal eugenicist, and he was particularly concerned with race degeneracy. He believed that race was threatened both by racial mixing and mental defectives.
I've never seen him praised as a good person
And corn flakes suppress masturbation!
Man, I was really robbed of a proper education. And half of what I did learn is straight up propaganda.
Same man.
As were we all
Theodor Geisel aka Dr. Seuss left his wife while she had terminal cancer and she ended up killing herself
Leaving your wife while she's dying of cancer is actually surprisingly common (source: Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center 2009 among others)
This has been debunked (?) on Reddit:
There was a similar thread recently about Dr Seuss in which he got flak, but then there was a reference to some more highly researched background which disproved most of what people were saying. I wish I could track that down to post here.
I looked on this thread and am surprised it's so far down.
Henry Ford. Outspoken white supremacist and had alleged connections with Nazi Germany
also pushed square dancing in schools because he hated jazz.
Who has ever complimented Henry Ford for his ethics rather than his ingenuity?
Chaplin
Yeah, that one hurt :(
why?
Andrew Jackson, he's celebrated as a Statesman and the seventh President of the US with the nick name Old Hickory, he's on the $20 Bill. In reality, he was a violent, cruel man, a slave master and racist who signed the Indian Removal Act and is responsible for the Trail of Tears. He also killed Charles Dickens...
He also told the Supreme Court he didn’t give a shit that they called his actions unconstitutional. And got away with it!
He also challenged people to duels all the damn time lol. He was jokingly called a coin purse, on account of all the bullets in him.
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Andrew Jackson
Woodrow Wilson. The man actually won the Nobel Peace Prize but was a notorious racist and set the standard of American Interventionism for the rest of the century.
I heard a story once that Ho Chi Minh once hoped to meet Wilson in Paris, hoping that he would be able to get the president to champion his cause for decolonizing Vietnam. When he met Woodrow Wilson's staff, they turned him away, informing him that Wilson was a racist and would not care for anything he had to say. Soon after, Ho Chi Minh picked up the Communist Manifesto.
Thomas Jefferson. Raped a slave girl repeatedly and fathered six of her children.
Not to mention, the man enslaved his own children. I don’t know anyone, right mind or not, who could think that is acceptable behavior.
And wasn't the slave his wife's half sister or something?
Yeah, supposedly he told her she could stay in France and could be free or go back with him and remain a slave. She chose to go backs. Here’s the thing: She didn’t speak any French and didn’t know anyone. Plus she was pregnant with his child
Alfred Kinsey and John Money
John Money is infamous. What did Kinsey do?
Bing Crosby was a terrible person and a horrible father.
Nooooo!!! I’ve never heard this one. Now I’m sad :(
The podcast behind the bastards covered him. I never knew!
I’m no expert on him, but I’ve heard both. One of his kids swears this isn’t true as well, just that he was complicated and sometimes emotionally reserved.
A bag of sweet Valencia oranges, doesn’t leave a mark and let’s the know who’s boss
Pauline Hanson, the Donald Trump of Australia 🇦🇺
Henry Kissinger.
Who is saying Henry Kissinger is a good person?
Isn’t he still alive somehow???
I'm not american and i don't really know that much about him. So I wanted to ask why is he particularly hated that much around here. He always seems to be in the top for this type of posts. What makes him so much worse than other american politicians?
I’m not sure anyone still thinks of him as a good person but Henry Kissinger is a terrible excuse for a human being and millions of people are dead because of him.
Newt Gingrich divorced his wife while she was in the hospital fighting cancer. Yep great guy.
Pavlov. The man was a psychopath. He is cited in hundreds of thousands of academic papers and books, but the truth he was a monster. Not only that, but his "experiments" have little if any scientific value as he mutilated the dogs To such an extent that they cannot be used as analogs for normal, healthy animals.
Crazy bc today I was behind a van for "Pavlov Media" and their company logo is a dog, and the first thing I said to my mom is "that's pretty fucked up considering what Pavlov did to dogs"
Because of the musical, many people tend to ignore some of the terrible aspects of Alexander Hamilton. I'm not going to list them all, but my personal favorite is his support for the Alien and Sedition acts. Hamilton had a few gripes with them, with one of the largest being that they were not enforced strictly enough.
So basically, Hamilton was an immigrant who wanted to close the door on other immigrants who came after him? The more things change…
It's funny because Aaron Burr is made out to be some kind of villain for having killed him in a duel. This is despite having put up with Hamilton's constant rumor mongering against him. The straw that broke the camel's back being that he had an incestuous relationship with his daughter. A daughter I might add was one of the best educated women in the nation due to Burr being quite the feminist.
Woodrow mother-fucking Wilson. The father of interventionism that manifested in horrendous conflicts such as Vietnam and Iraq, his idealism over realism approach to foreign policy at a key crossroads contributed heavily to present political instability and crime issues in Mexico, his delaying US entry into WW1 likely extended the conflict by years, which made both the creation of Nazi Germany AND especially the Soviet Union far more likely. And above all else the man was racist FOR HIS TIME, and that's saying something. He screened KKK propaganda films to his cabinet in the White House, and resegregated hiring practices in the federal government, he was also a prominent Lost Cause revisionist historian in regards to the American Civil War.
Don’t forget he was bed ridden for a time while president and did not give up power to the Vice President. During this time it’s believed his wife read and signed items in his place.
i too dislike Wilson vehemently. but i'm a little confused. if you're against his interventionism, shouldn't you be arguing that the US should not have entered WW1 at all?
You blame him as being the father of military interventionism but also blame him for not intervening enough in WWI in the same sentence. Furthermore, suggesting that Wilson’s delay of getting directly involved in the war as a primary factor for the Bolshevik revolution or the rise of Nazi Germany is a seriously thin argument bordering on alternate history sci-fi.
Thomas Edison. He pirated Tesla & Marconi’s work among others. We was as greedy & crooked as he was brilliant.
Didn't he also electrocute a bunch of cats and dogs in public demonstrations in an attempt to make AC electrical power look super dangerous?
Ghandi. You talk to any Indian and chances are they absolutely hate the guy
Don't even get me started of his work in South Africa. He's always touted for advocating for the rights of Indian South Africans when in reality he wanted them to be considered "Aryans" and granted the same privileges as white people. He was very racist against black people, and on many occasions used the k-word (a South African slur that's like the n-word but far worse as it wasn't reclaimed).
Why?
It's Gandhi.
Ted Kennedy. Not only was he a womanizing dirt bag like all the Kennedy boys, but he drove a car off a bridge drunk and left a woman to drown to death and then had his shitbag daddy Joe Sr. do damage control.
Ooh there's a similar storyline in succession
Henry Ford would send a messenger to your home to tell you that your husband died in the foundry. Then offer your 12 year old son a job.
Octavian/Augustus is a really vindictive and unpleasant dude considering how revered he is. I'd say he isn't evil by the standards of his time, on the other hand pretty much all Roman emperors are evil by our standards.
God after study the first Carthage war I've learned just how blood thirsty Romans were. Literally lost so many soldiers, ships, equipment from nature a lone and yet build massive navies and armies in weeks!.. WEEKS!
HBOs Rome does a great job portraying this. And Historia Civilis. There is a reason Cleopatra drank poison.
Is Marcus Aurelius considered evil? My general impression is that he's a pretty cool dude who wrote Meditations.
From my perspective, the Jedi are evil.
Then you are lost!
Ray Croc (Guy why stole McDonald’s from the actual McDonald’s Brothers and turned it into the restaurant corporation it is today)
Steve Jobs.
Yeah this guy was worshiped ~10-15 years ago. I'm happy that people are being more honest about him being an absolute POS.
Gandhi. He denied his wife medication so she died but he got the medication.... And to prove his celibacy he slept nude next to a young niece until he got it right
He was also racist as hell…
Also this;
Jebediah Springfield
You mean Hans Sprungfeld?
Joseph Smith. Created Mormonism using nothing but lies, committed statutory rape, sent men in his congregation away on missions so he could sleep with/marry their wives, ordered the burning of a printing press for exposing him, possibly ordered the assassination of the Missouri governor (theory, no solid indicators).
In the same vein, L. Ron Hubbard. Besides creating a scam religion, he also advocated for getting rid of critics with a .45
Jimmy savile. Complete and utterly disgusting. Everyone thought so highly of him in regards to charity work, yet some how our corrupted government and justice system failed so many children regarding accusations made whilst he was alive.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but no one still looks up to him, right? I’m an American, but even I know him as the guy who betrayed Britain’s children
Nobody praises Jimmy Savile anymore.
BBC has to play a big part in enabling him too.
As Kevin Bridges says
There was definitely a time when he was praised as a good person but I think it's fair to say that's well and truly in the past and has been for a while now.
Everyone knows that guy was a monster. Too bad it took until his death for all that shit to come to light about him.
The person who keeps asking this question every few days
AskReddit is nothing but 5-10 of the same questions reworded and reposted every other week. They always blow up and get tons of the exact same comments and links.
John Lennon.
The man was a hypocrite, he most certainly didn’t practice what he preached seeing as how he was abusive to his first wife and cheated on and left her for Yoko, he abandoned his first born child and has publicly admitted that he only loves his son from Yoko and not the son from his first wife, and on top of it all, he had a very violent temper.
90% of Hollywood actors and producers. The list is unbelievable.
John Smith, Coco Chanel, Charlie Chaplin, FDR, Elvis Presley…
Can you write what each of them did, thank you in advance.
Steve Jobs, he refused to claim or support his daughter and then used his money to get a life saving organ transplant even though he had severe other health issues and died a few years later, he basically killed someone indirectly using his wealth and no one wants to talk about it since he created a fucking iPod that makes phone calls.
Word on the street is he also smelled like shit
Believe it or not, Adolf Hitler was once praised as a good person. That was before people became aware of his persecution of the Jews, and information regarding the Holocaust was brought to light
Yeah, Edward VIII was a big fan of Hitler, which was one for he reasons he abdicated less than a year after his crowning
Thomas Edison, although I'm not sure he's praised much outside of people creating school curriculums in the deep south of the US anymore.
Former President Ferdinand Marcos Sr. He is known as a dictator and various human right violation. Most filipinos see his regime as a golden era...
Captain Cook
That bitch carole baskin
OP should go listen to the podcast "Behind the Bastards."
Definitely gonna check this podcast out. Thanks.
I read once how Brian Jones was so abusive to a woman that Keith Richards had to step in. If you have a controversial figure like Keith Richards being the reasonable one, you clearly have a problem.
Anybody who has even tangentially come into contact with Keith Richards will tell you he's one of the world's most thoughtful sweet dudes.
Is Keith Richards supposed to be a jerk? Your post makes it seem so. Doing drugs when you’re young doesn’t make you an abuser
Christopher Columbus
When European colonial powers of the 1500's arrest you for crimes against humanity because you're abusing the natives too much, you've gone way, way, way too far. The man was a monster who's excesses disgusted even his own peers in his own time.