Agreed. Divorce can do it. I used to be all around nice, but ever since I was completely betrayed idgaf about much. My kid and parents are the only people I care for.
Being misunderstood, marginalized, and having nobody who understands you or your perspective. That's perhaps the fastest way short of physical trauma to turn a decent person into a lunatic.
Unfair treatment. Especially for something they can't control. Getting in trouble for situations they couldn't control, and not being understood as to why they did them.
This. A guy I worked with was from the inner city. Dude was a good student, no record, multiple sport letter winner. Guy would still get stopped on his way home from practice and have his back pack dumped multiple times a week by the police. Said he knew why the police had to be so present, but dammit if it didn't get frustrating having to pick up all your stuff off a snowy sidewalk.
lack of support. If you have nobody and in the majority of your interactions you’re being shit on by other people, that can turn you down the wrong path
I've got a friend that is one of the most kind-hearted and straight-laced people I've ever met. However, his board game persona is devious and will not hesitate to backstab you and throw you into a meatgrinder
Dealing with that currently. A family member close enough to be a brother decided to start seeing my ex that broke my heart a couple months ago. When I found out he lied straight to my face. Only way I found out was his own brother telling me the truth.
Thinking they're good people. Too many people barrel into shitty behavior the whole time thinking, "but I'm a good person" If you can't accept that sometimes you're a bad person that you will compromise yourself then you could find yourself doing horrific things while believing you're still good.
Nah, money enables you. Good people who come into access to money don't become evil; sadly it seems to be that most rich people need to do evil to maintain that fortune and that is why there seems to be a filter. Money requires some evil sometimes.
Being treated like absolute shit. People are so unaware of their actions these days, not to mention people are very self-seeking. If you're weak, you'll be destroyed.
Being good for too long, long enough to realise that nobody cares about them and their good deeds in this sick world. Good people either die young and good, or get old enough to see themselves become evil.
I don’t believe in good or evil. But an otherwise “good person” can do some terrible things if they feel justified. Just about anyone can be convinced to do a horrible thing if you can give them justification.
Anger. If enough anger is piled up. They could lose EVERYTHING about them selves in those moments. This happened to me once. It’s a long story but I didn’t feel anything. I didn’t even feel empty. I was basically just there. It’s as if my soul left my body and let it do whatever it wants.
oh yea 100%, i been dealing with anger issues and self control for a whiiiile, all it takes is a few seconds and a person you dont like being in the wrong place and all hell breaks lose
Fear. When you have people terrified for their own safety, or for their families, they'll do what they think they need to to stay alive. Even if that means commit terrible atrocities against others.
A lot of "evil" things people do are survival needs taken to the extreme. They're motivated in selfishness and self-centered attitudes. A lot of evil isn't the "thing" being done, it's the motivation behind it. (Motivation is different from intent). It's when the thing being done becomes "more important" than what you need to be doing or more important than someone ELSE'S needs. Your rights end where another's begin and visa versa.
Life. So many things can break a person and make them bitter and angry. I can understand why someone may just opt for being evil…it is much more difficult being a good person in this world.
Being ignored. Treated like shit, constantly abused picked on. Especially of the person is good hearted and still has love for others but they pass away. Recipe for disaster.
Surrounding yourself with evil people will do that. This is even worse if you are forced to live with them. Don't even get me started on being raised by a wicked person.
The realization that being lazy and evil gets you a lot more than being good, because there's always someone around to ride your coattails and enable your behavior instead of stopping it. Be a deceitful businessman and live like Trump. Be an a-hole player and have more women flock to you than you could dream of. That sort of thing.
I would say it tends to be small progressive changes where one thing snowballs into others. Either a slightly bad decision or an unfortunate side effect that leads to more bad luck/ disillusionment while trying to get back to right.
Being cheated on. Realizing that everything you had ever felt with that person, every memory made, every moment spent together and every “I love you” was all just one big lie and no amount of rationalizing can bring you any peace. Blowing up on her felt good, but I haven’t been able to trust the same ever again.
Traumatic childhood /traumatic events during childhood. At least for the kiddos that go through such events and where the outcome is negative. I believe everyone is born good but their childhood is what forms them and sometimes they can become evil (bad is a way more suitable word for it).
Drug Addiction. My stepdad before he was my stepdad was a great guy. Friendly and helpful and you would have never guessed under the surface that he struggled with addiction until he stole everything out from under us and got physically abusive.
Being forced to do something you don't like while not being able to do anything you like, all for the others' sake and against your will. Now that's what's guarenteed to turn any good person to evil. It slowly takes over the person, day by day the hate on themselves and the entire world increases.
Genetics+ bad life experiences/ high stress leading to outbursts of violence or erratic behaviour, seen and been effected by this before. things such as pregnant drug abuse or anger issues can have large effects on how people behave.
I think conditioning and socialisation is a big one. We adopt the norms around us and particularly when we're growing up and young and impressionable, the people and cultural norms around us influence us profoundly. Those behaviours, attitudes and prejudices can create and enable all kinds of awfulness like racism, homophobia, sexism, classism etc
Porn. It's awful. My friend who was loving, caring, had tons of friends, he was a super awesome guy. He accidentally scrolled upon it, and he turned from one of the most innocent kids ever to someone who wouldn't talk to you, and he stayed in his house all day. He wouldn't come outside whatsoever. Poor dude.
Personal hardship. Yeah, character building my anus. I’m definitely a worse person now because of what I’ve gone through than I was before. What doesn’t kill you messes you up.
Getting hurt by the people they trusted the most.
This one makes people do the most evil shit
Definitely this. Honestly, I feel if I didn't have such insane anxiety about doing the wrong thing, I would have turned full supervillain by now.
Agreed. Divorce can do it. I used to be all around nice, but ever since I was completely betrayed idgaf about much. My kid and parents are the only people I care for.
This right here. Trying my damnedest to not be like this right now
Villain origin story
War
Huh... what is it good for?
War never changes
This is a good one
Being misunderstood, marginalized, and having nobody who understands you or your perspective. That's perhaps the fastest way short of physical trauma to turn a decent person into a lunatic.
Welp everyone on this post understands
Unfair treatment. Especially for something they can't control. Getting in trouble for situations they couldn't control, and not being understood as to why they did them.
This. A guy I worked with was from the inner city. Dude was a good student, no record, multiple sport letter winner. Guy would still get stopped on his way home from practice and have his back pack dumped multiple times a week by the police. Said he knew why the police had to be so present, but dammit if it didn't get frustrating having to pick up all your stuff off a snowy sidewalk.
This is absolutely true. I still have to live with the damage I did to myself as a result of the treatment.
This one resonates
The old Don John approach.
Good’ol trauma and mental problems.
lack of support. If you have nobody and in the majority of your interactions you’re being shit on by other people, that can turn you down the wrong path
Power with no responsibility
Uncle Ben? It’s me, Peter.
You may have called the power company to help fix the wiring
Addiction, not being heard, putting everyone else before themselves
I seen so many turn evil because of crack.
Being ignored, abusive parents
Oh man the "putting everyone else before themselves" is an extremely insightful point, damn.
Monopoly
I've got a friend that is one of the most kind-hearted and straight-laced people I've ever met. However, his board game persona is devious and will not hesitate to backstab you and throw you into a meatgrinder
bullying
Familial betrayal
Dealing with that currently. A family member close enough to be a brother decided to start seeing my ex that broke my heart a couple months ago. When I found out he lied straight to my face. Only way I found out was his own brother telling me the truth.
Thinking they're good people. Too many people barrel into shitty behavior the whole time thinking, "but I'm a good person" If you can't accept that sometimes you're a bad person that you will compromise yourself then you could find yourself doing horrific things while believing you're still good.
Harm to their children. No holds barred at that point.
Consistent failures through no fault of their own
can you provide an example of that?
Other evil people
violence is infectious
Hahaha I like this one
My friend was murdered and that brought out a lot of hate in me.
Completely understand.
trauma
"all it takes is one bad day"
League of Legends
Love how all these deep serious comments. Then this. Funny but... Kinda true
Jealousy
Injustice
Or unfairness (it's kind of the same but not entirely).
I think indoctrination, fear, the ability to close your eyes on whats happening, lack of empathy, self preservation instincts, group thinking etc
Interesting perspective
The fever, the rage, the feeling of powerlessness that turns good men... cruel.
Some men just want to see the world burn
being accused of something falsely
Especially if they get punished for it.
The dark side of the force
You were meant to destroy the sith,not join them!
The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
Money
It will take you wherever you wish, but it will not replace you as the driver.”
Being poor and needing money
eh, money just shows the true self of the person
Nah, money enables you. Good people who come into access to money don't become evil; sadly it seems to be that most rich people need to do evil to maintain that fortune and that is why there seems to be a filter. Money requires some evil sometimes.
Money and power only amplify what's already there. They were likely never good people, just opportunistic
hanging out with the wrong people
Art school rejection
I really hope this doesn't happen to me in the future
Abuse. Esp if it goes back to childhood, and is experienced yet again as an adult.
Disinformation
Being treated like absolute shit. People are so unaware of their actions these days, not to mention people are very self-seeking. If you're weak, you'll be destroyed.
Being alienated
Hating sand.
Or not having a rank of a master but still being in the council
Greed
The greedy person was good?
Being good for too long, long enough to realise that nobody cares about them and their good deeds in this sick world. Good people either die young and good, or get old enough to see themselves become evil.
U alr bro that sounds personal
I don’t believe in good or evil. But an otherwise “good person” can do some terrible things if they feel justified. Just about anyone can be convinced to do a horrible thing if you can give them justification.
And
Abuse.
bad parents
Propaganda.
Never catching a break no matter how hard they try. Never being heard. Feeling unappreciated and unloved for too long .
Poverty. War. Ignorance.
Double ads on YouTube videos.
Alcohol
The Navarro Cartel
I'm waiting for the uvalde parents to snap
Feeling that the world owes them one (whether this belief is justified or not).
Examples include power, temptation, fear, and mental illness.
Anger. If enough anger is piled up. They could lose EVERYTHING about them selves in those moments. This happened to me once. It’s a long story but I didn’t feel anything. I didn’t even feel empty. I was basically just there. It’s as if my soul left my body and let it do whatever it wants.
oh yea 100%, i been dealing with anger issues and self control for a whiiiile, all it takes is a few seconds and a person you dont like being in the wrong place and all hell breaks lose
Politics.
Actually i think most people become a politician because they want to fix the world, to make it a better place.
Perspective.
Love
Scarcity
Putting your all into people, just for them all to turn on you the moment it's convenient.
Emotional abuse
Betrayal.
Betrayal.
Fear. When you have people terrified for their own safety, or for their families, they'll do what they think they need to to stay alive. Even if that means commit terrible atrocities against others.
being treated badly/unjustly for no reason by other people.
Toxic environment
Heartbreak
A lot of "evil" things people do are survival needs taken to the extreme. They're motivated in selfishness and self-centered attitudes. A lot of evil isn't the "thing" being done, it's the motivation behind it. (Motivation is different from intent). It's when the thing being done becomes "more important" than what you need to be doing or more important than someone ELSE'S needs. Your rights end where another's begin and visa versa.
Getting hurt constantly. Used to be a people pleaser, now I ain't.
Bad influence by toxic people
Having their genuine trust and goodwill betrayed and taken advantage of by other people. Time and time again.
Being taught to apologize for what they can't control.
Being hurt and betrayed too many times by people they once trusted.
Social media
Lack of cats in their lives
When they have been done wrong or justice wasn't served rightfully to them
The internet
Money and religion
Stupid people
Time
brain damage
Life. So many things can break a person and make them bitter and angry. I can understand why someone may just opt for being evil…it is much more difficult being a good person in this world.
Being ignored. Treated like shit, constantly abused picked on. Especially of the person is good hearted and still has love for others but they pass away. Recipe for disaster.
Stress can break your mind. You never think you can slip between the cracks until you're doing something you never thought you'd do.
Turning to cooking meth out of an rv to support your family, only to become a drug kingpin and completely destroying said family in the process
Something that turns good people evil I'd guess
Being around narcissists
A broken heart Bullying Childhood traumas Selfish desires Being used Being abused
Doing your best to be a good person and having good morals while seeing bad ones be rewarded and get lucky in life.
Surrounding yourself with evil people will do that. This is even worse if you are forced to live with them. Don't even get me started on being raised by a wicked person.
Pain without understanding
Divorce/Children's court
The realization that being lazy and evil gets you a lot more than being good, because there's always someone around to ride your coattails and enable your behavior instead of stopping it. Be a deceitful businessman and live like Trump. Be an a-hole player and have more women flock to you than you could dream of. That sort of thing.
When everything you do is wrong, but others who do it are correct.
"Those who are heartless once cared too much" Davy Jones
Shitty parents
Bad life experiences, greed, jealousy
When they’re authentic around people who only wanted to study them for weaknesses and are now exploiting them
Loneliness.
Cheating and bad people themself
Bragging about being good
Bad parents
I would say it tends to be small progressive changes where one thing snowballs into others. Either a slightly bad decision or an unfortunate side effect that leads to more bad luck/ disillusionment while trying to get back to right.
Also, and hear me out on this: the belief that there are good people and bad people.
Drug addictions and eating disorders
Injustices, Not getting what they deserve, and Vengeance...
(T-R-A-U-M-A, I have trauma and I'm gay)
Fear. Never underestimate the capacity for someone to make the exact wrong choice when they're frightened.
Bad parents
Terrible childhood like abusive parents
Emotional abuse
Being cheated on. Realizing that everything you had ever felt with that person, every memory made, every moment spent together and every “I love you” was all just one big lie and no amount of rationalizing can bring you any peace. Blowing up on her felt good, but I haven’t been able to trust the same ever again.
Traumatic childhood /traumatic events during childhood. At least for the kiddos that go through such events and where the outcome is negative. I believe everyone is born good but their childhood is what forms them and sometimes they can become evil (bad is a way more suitable word for it).
Testing their patience... It pushes them right over the edge
poverty
looking at their actions from the side of their enemies
Do you want a serious answer or a nonsensical answer
When their family is taken advantage of, whether that be financially or work wise etc
Grief
Fox News
Poverty & infidelity.
Drug Addiction. My stepdad before he was my stepdad was a great guy. Friendly and helpful and you would have never guessed under the surface that he struggled with addiction until he stole everything out from under us and got physically abusive.
Sexual Abuse
Greed, hatred, delusion
Religion.
I'd open it up a bit to say that having an unchallengeable belief that defines a portion of your personality.
Thank you!
Addiction
Vengeance
Zealotry.
Helplessness
Wizard
Revenge
Reddit
Being forced to do something you don't like while not being able to do anything you like, all for the others' sake and against your will. Now that's what's guarenteed to turn any good person to evil. It slowly takes over the person, day by day the hate on themselves and the entire world increases.
Trauma
Abuse
Genetics+ bad life experiences/ high stress leading to outbursts of violence or erratic behaviour, seen and been effected by this before. things such as pregnant drug abuse or anger issues can have large effects on how people behave.
Violence.
I think conditioning and socialisation is a big one. We adopt the norms around us and particularly when we're growing up and young and impressionable, the people and cultural norms around us influence us profoundly. Those behaviours, attitudes and prejudices can create and enable all kinds of awfulness like racism, homophobia, sexism, classism etc
Chronic pain.
Tragedy...it can turn a mf heart cold and turn a mf to the dark side, inflicting that pain he feels onto others.
Government letting them down. The story of Killdozer is an interesting read.
You’re own mind after trauma.
Betrayal.
Porn. It's awful. My friend who was loving, caring, had tons of friends, he was a super awesome guy. He accidentally scrolled upon it, and he turned from one of the most innocent kids ever to someone who wouldn't talk to you, and he stayed in his house all day. He wouldn't come outside whatsoever. Poor dude.
Dehumanization
Being ignored!! That shit drives me INSANE!! 😤😤
Depression, suicidal urges, not having any hope
isolation
If something bad has been done to one's child or other loved ones.
Pain, weather physical or emotional. Pain can turn good people evil very easily.
Fox news
Walking over them and manipulating them
Betrayal
Betrayal is scary because of its capabilities. A good person gets betrayed by someone they trust, and they seek revenge.
Liars.
Loss of something most valuable to them in a traumatic way
Loving someone who literally doesn't give af about you
i will collect all possible things into one word
Personal hardship. Yeah, character building my anus. I’m definitely a worse person now because of what I’ve gone through than I was before. What doesn’t kill you messes you up.
Abuse