The most important thing to remember about the time period is that America saw the British empire as the true enemy to be defeated, lacking the capacity or justification to invade the world wars represented a perfect scenario. Post ww2 America rebuilt Japan and Germany as micro and macro engineering powerhouses whilst demanding full repayment of lend-lease from the UK (this is important because it undermined Britain's position as an engineering juggernaut and explicitly rewarded the erstwhile enemies, both have larger economies than the UK's as a direct result). This was very much a serendipitous event for America and it's only in the last decade or so it's stopped yelling about how fucking great it is off the back of a purely self serving bit of policy.
Meh. The US entering ensured that the peace talks would heavily favor the West. The Nazis failed to capitulate the USSR during their invasion and decided to just not retreat, leading to hundreds of thousands of their best soldiers dying or being captured and crippling Germany’s ability to fight.
Russia lost 27 million people to the war, while USA lost only 282 thousand. In polls after the war, a resounding 57% of people said that Russia was critical to winning the war, and the USA only 20%. Over the course of the next 50 years and Hollywood and sensationalized movies, that number changed to 54% USA.
For those wonderin where the RAF was during Dunkirk, they actually were fighting off bombers and fighters further inland, the Junkers that made it to the beach got through the fighting lines and there weren't any planes to spare to patrol the area
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the us funded and supplied so much shit int hat war itd be a fair argument to say they won it if it weren’t for soviet man waves (which also heavily supplied by americans)
If America didn't provide the massive amount of help it did in WW2, there is no question that Germany would have won:
I short the war was won with American manufacturing capabilities, British intelligence and Soviet lives.
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Without America, Britain absolutely would not have been able to march into Berlin.
The most important thing to remember about the time period is that America saw the British empire as the true enemy to be defeated, lacking the capacity or justification to invade the world wars represented a perfect scenario. Post ww2 America rebuilt Japan and Germany as micro and macro engineering powerhouses whilst demanding full repayment of lend-lease from the UK (this is important because it undermined Britain's position as an engineering juggernaut and explicitly rewarded the erstwhile enemies, both have larger economies than the UK's as a direct result). This was very much a serendipitous event for America and it's only in the last decade or so it's stopped yelling about how fucking great it is off the back of a purely self serving bit of policy.
Meh. The US entering ensured that the peace talks would heavily favor the West. The Nazis failed to capitulate the USSR during their invasion and decided to just not retreat, leading to hundreds of thousands of their best soldiers dying or being captured and crippling Germany’s ability to fight.
“Germany would have won the war if they won the war”
I agree, but if any one element of the Allies, I think defeat would have been on the cards.
Russia lost 27 million people to the war, while USA lost only 282 thousand. In polls after the war, a resounding 57% of people said that Russia was critical to winning the war, and the USA only 20%. Over the course of the next 50 years and Hollywood and sensationalized movies, that number changed to 54% USA.
Germanon doesn't even know how Dunkirk went down himself it seems. Also that germanon is a fake germ
I've read a lot of history and love the germans. I think anon likes to spam bbc threads on another board.
Tfw no giga chad space kaiser to lead you into a new golden age
Remember when an anglo biplane brought down the mightiest german battleship of all time?
The only thing on his statement that irks me is the :
Learn to history. Panzer divisions and the luftwaffe were held back in case peace talks with the British went through.
Morgenthau plan when
What’s with the Wheel of Time picture in the last comment
Don't forget the french literally sacreficing themselfes to buy time for the anglos
For those wonderin where the RAF was during Dunkirk, they actually were fighting off bombers and fighters further inland, the Junkers that made it to the beach got through the fighting lines and there weren't any planes to spare to patrol the area
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“Spared the British kindly”
the us funded and supplied so much shit int hat war itd be a fair argument to say they won it if it weren’t for soviet man waves (which also heavily supplied by americans)