You might want to get screened for pre-diabetes. If you are unfortunate and are identified as such your chances of getting GLP-1 type drugs via primary care increase. Weight loss services are run by More-Life in the UK. I have been in contact with them recently and I was told that due to the volume of applicants they have suspended the induction of new patients in my area. More-life run a course for individuals identified by screening as pre-diabetic where you can access these drugs. I have been informed that More-Life's policy for the use of GLP-1 agonists purely for weight loss has not been ratified by their governing body so this drug is unavailable from them at present. I went through the tier 3 support ecosystem prior to NICE deciding that this class of drugs could be used for weight loss, it's not fit for purpose. More-life are geographically based, if you fall outside their area the NHS are tasked with offering this type of support which will including treatment with these class of drugs. If you want further questions answered DM me.
My mom has just been diagnosed with type 2 and when she asked about GLP-1s she was met with a resounding ‘no’. I know someone with uncontrolled type 2 and even she isn’t on it.
I would imagine he is on a GLP-1 agonist such as wegovy or ozempic then. There is a huge shortage of this internationally and in part this is because it is also being prescribed for weight loss. In this country in many regions it is not available on the NHS for weight loss. What is affecting the supply of it is patients getting it privately for weight loss through a private doctor as these prescriptions are still supplied from stock that would otherwise go to high street pharmacies and be available for NHS patients with diabetes. Private prescriptions are generally more lucrative than the NHS indicative price so the supplies of these drugs would actually get more from it as a weight loss drug being prescribed privately.
You can’t get Ozempic for weight loss since last October. Wegovy is the same drug but available in higher doses for weight loss. Ozempic is only available to people with diabetes.
Some lay blue and others green. . . Don’t know what the other guy is getting at but chicken eggs come in a variety of colors, white is a natural one just as much as brown and blue. . .
Honestly I’d try and cancel and just go with another provider. I’ve used Boots, Asda and Bolt (I was on Wegovy before MJ) and experienced none of this.
I’ve had some nausea and vomiting on wegovy but am doing better now. Tempted to see if 2.4mg gets the weight down before switching. Since if I switch and the side effects are bad, then I have to ramp up on wegovy again. Currently on 1.7 wegovy
I've only just switched. I can't say much for weightloss as I've stayed the same. I am actively back building muscle in the gym though so there's that and water retention.
I’ve been meaning to listen to the Plus Sidez podcast! I would love it if the medicine came in a vial to draw up with a syringe – the pen feels so unwieldy and if it’s making Mounjaro cost more, I’d rather have it in a vial personally.
I had something similar when I had a private prescription that my actual GP surgery issued for me in the end which was amazing because I saved so much money 😅
I don't know. I wonder if it's the several decades of "Eat less, do more" being the only option for supporting obese and overweight patients, that they feel threatened now there's a new option on the scene that is actually working. I also wonder what sort of training they've had around these injections too and if there's a sense of it being an "easy" option for "lazy" patients.
My mom has just been diagnosed with type 2 and she discussed the meds with the diabetes nurse and she said I knew so much more about them than the nurse.
Exploding head syndrome might be a case of the brain tripping up as it shifts between being awake and asleep. The auditory hallucinations experienced during EHS are thought to result from the brain misinterpreting internal signals as external noises.
So when I went on Ozempic, the initial starting dose had double the amount of medication you needed. And the plan I was on (Second Nature) said to throw it away. Throw away what’s effectively £100 worth of medicine! So I said no thank you fuck that, and continued taking the extra doses. I’ve been on Saxenda/Ozempic/Wegovy for a year (switching to MJ tomorrow) and I’ve lost 20% of my starting weight (16.8kg). I’m bloody happy with that. Maybe my loss has been slower than it would have been had I not done that, but I’ve avoided any loose skin and slow weight loss is more likely to stay off.
Your point about exercise: unfortunately, exercise really doesn’t help much in way of losing weight/burning calories. It for sure does when you’re new to it, but after a couple years your body adapts. Studies have shown hunter gatherers in modern times who are on their feet all day burn as many calories as the average westerner.
I heard three years ago that many people believe the chemical imbalance to be wrong. We just discovered that those chemical in the medications make depressed people feel better and don’t really know why.
That’s not my experience. SSRIs gave me my life back so I stopped having constant panic attacks. I also don’t have any side effects. Just because they don’t work for everyone doesn’t mean they aren’t life-saving for others.
You might want to get screened for pre-diabetes. If you are unfortunate and are identified as such your chances of getting GLP-1 type drugs via primary care increase. Weight loss services are run by More-Life in the UK. I have been in contact with them recently and I was told that due to the volume of applicants they have suspended the induction of new patients in my area. More-life run a course for individuals identified by screening as pre-diabetic where you can access these drugs. I have been informed that More-Life's policy for the use of GLP-1 agonists purely for weight loss has not been ratified by their governing body so this drug is unavailable from them at present. I went through the tier 3 support ecosystem prior to NICE deciding that this class of drugs could be used for weight loss, it's not fit for purpose. More-life are geographically based, if you fall outside their area the NHS are tasked with offering this type of support which will including treatment with these class of drugs. If you want further questions answered DM me.
My mom has just been diagnosed with type 2 and when she asked about GLP-1s she was met with a resounding ‘no’. I know someone with uncontrolled type 2 and even she isn’t on it.
I would imagine he is on a GLP-1 agonist such as wegovy or ozempic then. There is a huge shortage of this internationally and in part this is because it is also being prescribed for weight loss. In this country in many regions it is not available on the NHS for weight loss. What is affecting the supply of it is patients getting it privately for weight loss through a private doctor as these prescriptions are still supplied from stock that would otherwise go to high street pharmacies and be available for NHS patients with diabetes. Private prescriptions are generally more lucrative than the NHS indicative price so the supplies of these drugs would actually get more from it as a weight loss drug being prescribed privately.
You can’t get Ozempic for weight loss since last October. Wegovy is the same drug but available in higher doses for weight loss. Ozempic is only available to people with diabetes.
Ozempic is only licensed for diabetes but that doesn’t mean that it cannot be prescribed off license for weight loss.
Even privately/off-license they can’t prescribe Ozempic for weight loss as outlined here:
Since when do chickens lay perfectly bleached white eggs?
Certain hens lay white eggs, some lay brown.
Some lay blue and others green. . . Don’t know what the other guy is getting at but chicken eggs come in a variety of colors, white is a natural one just as much as brown and blue. . .
I’m in the UK and you don’t see white eggs very often so I assume OP is from a place that tends to sell brown eggs.
Honestly I’d try and cancel and just go with another provider. I’ve used Boots, Asda and Bolt (I was on Wegovy before MJ) and experienced none of this.
That’s bad they let you stay on it, if you’ve not lost 5% of your starting weight in 3 months you’re considered a non-responder.
I never understood why everyone was going mad for the first photo. Can someone explain to me please?
It’s just about how tight their trousers were.
Theyll just be imported from spain or Gibraltar or something
The ones my ex smokes have Polish writing on them.
Going through some tough times lately with my dad but this really made us both laugh, so thank you for that!
You might get more traction over on
I’ve had some nausea and vomiting on wegovy but am doing better now. Tempted to see if 2.4mg gets the weight down before switching. Since if I switch and the side effects are bad, then I have to ramp up on wegovy again. Currently on 1.7 wegovy
Fwiw the highest doses of MJ are cheaper than the highest doses of Wegovy so if I were you I’d switch :)
I've only just switched. I can't say much for weightloss as I've stayed the same. I am actively back building muscle in the gym though so there's that and water retention.
Oh weird, I switched on Monday and haven’t had the body aches. I have zero appetite though.
It’s alright but I personally prefer the diet meal replacement shakes from Protein Works, particularly the banana one. Tastes like Nesquik milkshake!
I’ve been meaning to listen to the Plus Sidez podcast! I would love it if the medicine came in a vial to draw up with a syringe – the pen feels so unwieldy and if it’s making Mounjaro cost more, I’d rather have it in a vial personally.
Honestly coming from Wegovy, the MJ pen is ridiculous!
I donated no problem when I was on Wegovy.
I had something similar when I had a private prescription that my actual GP surgery issued for me in the end which was amazing because I saved so much money 😅
I don't know. I wonder if it's the several decades of "Eat less, do more" being the only option for supporting obese and overweight patients, that they feel threatened now there's a new option on the scene that is actually working. I also wonder what sort of training they've had around these injections too and if there's a sense of it being an "easy" option for "lazy" patients.
My mom has just been diagnosed with type 2 and she discussed the meds with the diabetes nurse and she said I knew so much more about them than the nurse.
Wow this has not happened to me at all 😅 been on it since last summer and I still love alcohol as much as I ever did!
Yep there was a spate a few months back of fake Ozempic that was actually just insulin which is incredibly dangerous if you don’t need it.
I’m using Bolt.
I get much better results with arrowroot powder.
Exploding head syndrome might be a case of the brain tripping up as it shifts between being awake and asleep. The auditory hallucinations experienced during EHS are thought to result from the brain misinterpreting internal signals as external noises.
Yeah I get this and it seems to be at the same point of falling asleep that I get hypnic jerks.
Or maybe they are not getting them through a proper dr and the stuff they are using isn’t safe
Yeah there were stories a few months ago about insulin being sold as Wegovy/Ozempic. That will kill you.
Is it the steam train? That runs past mine in Solihull every Sunday.
I still don’t understand when people take this extra shot though.
So when I went on Ozempic, the initial starting dose had double the amount of medication you needed. And the plan I was on (Second Nature) said to throw it away. Throw away what’s effectively £100 worth of medicine! So I said no thank you fuck that, and continued taking the extra doses. I’ve been on Saxenda/Ozempic/Wegovy for a year (switching to MJ tomorrow) and I’ve lost 20% of my starting weight (16.8kg). I’m bloody happy with that. Maybe my loss has been slower than it would have been had I not done that, but I’ve avoided any loose skin and slow weight loss is more likely to stay off.
Your point about exercise: unfortunately, exercise really doesn’t help much in way of losing weight/burning calories. It for sure does when you’re new to it, but after a couple years your body adapts. Studies have shown hunter gatherers in modern times who are on their feet all day burn as many calories as the average westerner.
I heard three years ago that many people believe the chemical imbalance to be wrong. We just discovered that those chemical in the medications make depressed people feel better and don’t really know why.
Placebos have been shown to be equally or even MORE effective than SSRIs at time. That’s why. They are placebos with shitty side effects.
That’s not my experience. SSRIs gave me my life back so I stopped having constant panic attacks. I also don’t have any side effects. Just because they don’t work for everyone doesn’t mean they aren’t life-saving for others.
They increase neuroplasticity. That’s been known for a while now.
10mg citalopram, been on Saxenda/Wegovy for a year, all been fine.