The only thing I remember from that movie is recreation of Last Supper scene. It shows his conflicting view on religion. He was constantly mocking it, but unable to left it out completly. Could be that he was just piggybacking on religious symbols for fun. He was funny like that.
Yes, absolutely. The implications of the ending were initially so frightening to me that I rejected the movie. I labeled it as "bad" because its conclusion was so unlike nearly every other film I had seen, that I didn't know what to make of it. Practically every other story I knew was based on the Conflict-Resolution model, so Viridiana felt in a way, not like a film at all. I felt cheated. But then I realized that it was every other story that had been cheating because they operated under the assumption that actions have meaning and they matter and that justice exists, but here was a film that exposed that lie that we tell ourselves every day. In a way, Viridiana began to feel like the only truthful film I had ever seen, as I realized that most stories exist only to perpetuate the lies that allow us to feel good about ourselves and want to keep on living. It was a terrifying prospect, but it felt like the truth. True stories don't have happy endings because no matter what the ending, the characters will always feel empty and alone and like nothing they do really matters. That is the reality of human existence. And it hurts.
lol you just became like Bunuel, not a great achievement. You don't have to be a self righteous nun not to be empty. Seems like neither you nor Bunuel could understand this simple fact.
It's not in the collection, but First Reformed made me think quite a bit about my own religious upbringing. It talks about Christianity in a really interesting way.
I understand its problems. I know it’s not perfect. I’m also well aware it didn’t deserve the Oscar (Pulp is way better, and Shawshank is my #1 all time fave).
In the Mood for Love. It's pretty to look at and the main theme rocks, but I felt absolutely nothing. I understand people liking it, I don't understand how someone can watch it and rank it among the 10 best films ever made.
Yeah that’s not pedophilia. I knew he has a teenage boyfriend. It’s still rape, but pedophilia means attracted to prepubescent children, and this is ephebophilia, attracted to teenagers. It’s a big difference (pre-pubescent vs post-pubescent) and I bring this up because actual pedophiles love it when popular media lumps them into the same category, because it is more culturally acceptable to sexualize teenagers (look at popular tv). Let’s also not conflate a five-year-old with a fifteen-year-old.
He wasn’t a pedophile. Let’s not give actual pedos the pleasure of being confused with people who rape teenagers. And let’s not insult the victims of actual pedophilia. That’s all I’m saying.
I got you, just saying that he wasn't the role model for society and it's not like he was killed for that one movie when he was full of shit and could have tons of enemies to begin with. Some people make him a martyr and that stupid movie gets more credit than needed.
Paul floating up at the end of the dream, together with the glitchy editing sequence refers back to the opening dream sequence, where the person that is floating up is the person having the dream. Paul’s not getting back to his wife because he’s not doing anything different
I'm really hesitating to call him an antihero. Sure, his attitude to other people is not so nice sometimes, he sets no examples, but he gives a vibe of a decent human being. What i would call him is an ageing man with no socially-praised accomplishments, feeling a failure, in a desperate need of some recognition. He's lived an unremarkable life an everybody seems to want to shove it in his face; he gets no real support from his family, which is a disaster for a man. Surely he deserves some appreciation? He's been working all his life to support his family, but i feel no gratitude, rather, his wife and kids seem just embarrassed by his life, decision he makes and his behaviour. Yeah, he is no hero, no achiever, but does everybody needs to stand out now? Just being a normal dad is apparently not enough?
"It doesn't know what it wants to portray" It's a historical fiction portrayal of the horrific crimes committed by the Nazis in Belarus during the second world war. Do you want them to dress it up for you so you'll be entertained? This isn't Star Wars this is Hitler's army.
All right, I'm about to sound like a total curmudgeon here, but it kind of grates on me that anyone expects good feminism from mainstream blockbuster movies. The patriarchy is tied up with the big money; they're part of the same system. A great deal of what comes out of Hollywood is propaganda for the status quo (intentional or not, doesn't really matter). I wish more people would seek out independent media.
'Landscape in the Mist" and "Eternity and a Day" are his most accessible and universally loved films. Those two along with "The Weeping Meadow" are my top 3 favorite of him.
It's not even organic afair. And the taste is poor. Not even comparable to the best ones which are ancient organics and gold nugget (both have consistency problems since covid though, still the best that there is)
Writing is indeed terrible, the guy is clueless on priesthood and religious people in general. Unlike people like Bergman or Tarkovsky that he tired to copy. Not to mention that ending. The only thing that would be worse is it he actually did it.
It's over-the-top melodramatic on purpose. I liked it but preferred Breaking the Waves.
yes, that's a better movie. Some things were over the top in this one
The only thing I remember from that movie is recreation of Last Supper scene. It shows his conflicting view on religion. He was constantly mocking it, but unable to left it out completly. Could be that he was just piggybacking on religious symbols for fun. He was funny like that.
there's a reason Dali was his friend :)
Yes, absolutely. The implications of the ending were initially so frightening to me that I rejected the movie. I labeled it as "bad" because its conclusion was so unlike nearly every other film I had seen, that I didn't know what to make of it. Practically every other story I knew was based on the Conflict-Resolution model, so Viridiana felt in a way, not like a film at all. I felt cheated. But then I realized that it was every other story that had been cheating because they operated under the assumption that actions have meaning and they matter and that justice exists, but here was a film that exposed that lie that we tell ourselves every day. In a way, Viridiana began to feel like the only truthful film I had ever seen, as I realized that most stories exist only to perpetuate the lies that allow us to feel good about ourselves and want to keep on living. It was a terrifying prospect, but it felt like the truth. True stories don't have happy endings because no matter what the ending, the characters will always feel empty and alone and like nothing they do really matters. That is the reality of human existence. And it hurts.
lol you just became like Bunuel, not a great achievement. You don't have to be a self righteous nun not to be empty. Seems like neither you nor Bunuel could understand this simple fact.
How the fuck did not one person recommend Terrence malick??
Cause he's not in the same league. Pretty visuals and lazy voice over storytelling can't be a match to the masters like Tarkovsky etc
It's not in the collection, but First Reformed made me think quite a bit about my own religious upbringing. It talks about Christianity in a really interesting way.
Terrible film
I disagree.
Holy fool celebration. Not dumb. And yes that exactly the point. It's not even hard to grasp, but new gen can't even analyze a simple movie
I understand its problems. I know it’s not perfect. I’m also well aware it didn’t deserve the Oscar (Pulp is way better, and Shawshank is my #1 all time fave).
It is better than both.
In the Mood for Love. It's pretty to look at and the main theme rocks, but I felt absolutely nothing. I understand people liking it, I don't understand how someone can watch it and rank it among the 10 best films ever made.
Highfive
felt the same as it was the first WKW film I saw. loved the cinematography, particularly the pre-box set focus on deep reds (RIP)
Wkw overrated
Yeah that’s not pedophilia. I knew he has a teenage boyfriend. It’s still rape, but pedophilia means attracted to prepubescent children, and this is ephebophilia, attracted to teenagers. It’s a big difference (pre-pubescent vs post-pubescent) and I bring this up because actual pedophiles love it when popular media lumps them into the same category, because it is more culturally acceptable to sexualize teenagers (look at popular tv). Let’s also not conflate a five-year-old with a fifteen-year-old.
Well pardon my ignorance, but the point stays.
He wasn’t a pedophile. Let’s not give actual pedos the pleasure of being confused with people who rape teenagers. And let’s not insult the victims of actual pedophilia. That’s all I’m saying.
I got you, just saying that he wasn't the role model for society and it's not like he was killed for that one movie when he was full of shit and could have tons of enemies to begin with. Some people make him a martyr and that stupid movie gets more credit than needed.
Salo or 120 Days of Sodom has a cultural significance that actually holds up more now than ever.
its garbage and gets recognition only for shock value. There's no actual value to it.
I’d say Vagabond is her most famous film.
Mediocre
Dreyer, Erice.. to name a few. I'm assuming you just forgot about the best - Andrei , in that OP, so I'm not gonna add him.
Sub filled with comments by a bunch of prudes who can't enjoy art. You always have netflix.
Calling this shit at is where we're at in this day and age..
I've started writing now since this bottom of the barrel shit is considered high class now. Blows my mind
Good luck
https://www.rogerebert.com/interviews/inside-my-head-kristoffer-borgli-on-dream-scenario
Paul floating up at the end of the dream, together with the glitchy editing sequence refers back to the opening dream sequence, where the person that is floating up is the person having the dream. Paul’s not getting back to his wife because he’s not doing anything different
But if its his dream, that would mean she requested to be there , no?
I'm really hesitating to call him an antihero. Sure, his attitude to other people is not so nice sometimes, he sets no examples, but he gives a vibe of a decent human being. What i would call him is an ageing man with no socially-praised accomplishments, feeling a failure, in a desperate need of some recognition. He's lived an unremarkable life an everybody seems to want to shove it in his face; he gets no real support from his family, which is a disaster for a man. Surely he deserves some appreciation? He's been working all his life to support his family, but i feel no gratitude, rather, his wife and kids seem just embarrassed by his life, decision he makes and his behaviour. Yeah, he is no hero, no achiever, but does everybody needs to stand out now? Just being a normal dad is apparently not enough?
Sadly he is an antihero, but you have a good heart.
Yeah that's the point, it's strictly left wing, putting feelings and experiences over rational actions. I loved watching it, but it lacks balance
what i didnt like was the ending (spoilers duh):
Just like Poor things.. except this was a good comedy lol
The dialogue was so bad it qualifies as a comedy.
I thought that was intentional?
Jennifer Lawrence in not a good person. Look up her telling the story of how she destroyed the sacred stones in Hawaii
What she said about phantom thread was enough for me
Did you see American Hustle?
That terrible movie..
"It doesn't know what it wants to portray" It's a historical fiction portrayal of the horrific crimes committed by the Nazis in Belarus during the second world war. Do you want them to dress it up for you so you'll be entertained? This isn't Star Wars this is Hitler's army.
No you didn't even get what I was saying, so I don't want to bother
Well, what the director tells you and what you get from the movie can obviously differ.
Various angles... Sex, sex, sex, oh and sex!
Did you miss the scenes of her exploring Lisbon, different food, going to parks and rediscovering her previous life?
Yeah of course, eat pray love in a nutshell, hedonistic paradise, food and a lot of sex, that's what life is about. Garbage
Best director alive. Proved it with Close Your Eyes
I liked the part where the guy called her a retard
Lmao
There is one solution that would immediately improve all your points. Every.Single.One.
Who is gonna drive at high speed for 0.8 seconds on tumanyan street like a moron then?
All right, I'm about to sound like a total curmudgeon here, but it kind of grates on me that anyone expects good feminism from mainstream blockbuster movies. The patriarchy is tied up with the big money; they're part of the same system. A great deal of what comes out of Hollywood is propaganda for the status quo (intentional or not, doesn't really matter). I wish more people would seek out independent media.
Maegaret?? What does it have to do with feminism
I saw it Monday with my husband and kids, we were disappointed. At the ride back I gave them a 101 about feminism and patriarchy.
Poor guys
'Landscape in the Mist" and "Eternity and a Day" are his most accessible and universally loved films. Those two along with "The Weeping Meadow" are my top 3 favorite of him.
Weeping meadow is less accessible than these other two? Highly doubt, it's pretty much straightforward, just darker and bleaker
4th and Heart makes great ghee but it’s pricey. I’ve bought it before at Whole Foods
It's not even organic afair. And the taste is poor. Not even comparable to the best ones which are ancient organics and gold nugget (both have consistency problems since covid though, still the best that there is)
Writing is indeed terrible, the guy is clueless on priesthood and religious people in general. Unlike people like Bergman or Tarkovsky that he tired to copy. Not to mention that ending. The only thing that would be worse is it he actually did it.
Same - totally disappointed because Ethan Hawke is the shit.
Terrible idea to cast him